erik319 said:

How witty. God Almighy, humour-wise, is this the best people can do? If you're gonna try to put an artist down in a nasty way, at least be witty 'cos the above are worse than the puns on UK's Countdown. Lol.


Andy Pandy

andyf said:

That's a very negative thing to say Andy. Think positive

mayrain said:

I'm a Gemini too and I have many of those typical traits. But that doesn't mean that I am incapable of focusing on the right things and making commitments. Putting the blame on your zodiac sign can be a convenient thing, but let's face it, it's just silly excuses.

andyf said:

i dont think i was being negative, it was a valid question

NouveauDance said:

prb said:

Come on Tracey, unless every post you make clearly states that you think rainbows shine out of Prince's arse, you're being negative.

Asking a valid question is no alibi. Stone her!

erik319 said:

They dont?




and by the way, theres no E in Tracy



is that pessemistic enough?

prb said:

Jeez, I can't believe you're so negative about me spelling your name wrong. I'll stone ya myself!



Now be positive, dammit!

erik319 said:

okey doke

prb said:

hehe you said that like you thought I meant it! Lol. Hey, one positive thing for ya though... Saw a clip of episode 6 of you know what... Looks fantastic

erik319 said:

thats what im trying to keep my positivity for :crossfingers:

its called


his fans !!



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madison said:

im sure some fans wish those bananas were really them and Prince

what did you edit out

Within the past 7 days, everyone at the org has pretended to be lawyers, accountants, and now everyone's a fucking doctor that can diagnose mental disorders!!!

It's funny how so many people that don't know anything, claim to know everything!!!

Everyone just needs to calm the fuck down and stop making mountains out of molehills!!!

I think the reason P loses interest in projects is because by the time we (the public/fans) hear the music , it has already been months, maybe even years since he recorded it or put it together...so he is already moving on to the next 'thing' or project in his mind....he moves fast from project to project which can be good and bad.

thepope2the9s said:

thank you, a great answer.

but as a fan, how can we really get excited about something, if the man who created it moves on so quickly?

and Paris9748430

erik319 said:

Lol, agreed! Nice point. Don't be negative about Prince though! I'm here to defend him, I have appointed myself for this role! Imagine all the negativity posters have chucked at him for, imho, no real good reason. Think of what that man has to put up with. Doubly worse considering he has proved himself as a musician, artist, lyricist, business-man in far more ways than any of us at this forum.


(a boy when you wanted a girl? Pop Life! Daddy Pop Life!!)
[Edited 10/20/12 2:53am]

prb said:

No worries, prb. You were not being negative. Your intentions to me were obvious in reading your original post. I do think labels such as ADHD, Bipolar etc. can be detrimental (they can be helpful too, if one knows what they are doing), because there are large stigmas associated with conditions like this. You are probably not aware of how large the stigmas are and I know you wrote in good will. Thank you for this.

With any Psychiatric labels, the general public look at it as a bad thing. There are many people who have been labelled such who start groups up. There is one in the UK called "Mad Pride", and it is trying to explain to the world at large that those diagnosed as 'mentally ill' have been misunderstood and belittled through the centuries.

The mental health service users (better knows as mental health survivors) are tirelessly campaigning to eradicate the stigma associated with such labels. Believe me, most mental health survivors are discriminated against, and terribly so. If they may have a valid and cogent point, they are assumed to be wrong on account of their 'condition'. This is only one of the ways the stigma manifests itself. Many who suffer from such conditions have simply been the scape-goat for the family through the years and cannot bear to hold on to other people's bad emotions. However, due to their kind nature and the fact they blame themselves for other people's wrong-doing, they cannot cope. What happens? They go in hospital rather than those family issues being sorted out properly.

One spokesperson for the UK national mental health survivors group believes that the mental health community have a lot to learn from the great Black Civil Rights Movement, promulgated by the greatest person of the last century, Dr Martin Luther King. Mental health survivors are still trying to get more humane rights. Some of the barriers to rights are covert. If you tell a company during interview that you have had depression, it is likely that they will not employ you but not tell you that it was because you had depression. Why will they not tell you? Because it is discrimation to deselect someone due to a previous depression. So if you have had depression and tell the truth to an employer, it is likely that they will not give you a job, but lie to you as to why you did not get the job.

Believe me, prb, your post was in all innocence, I know. Perhaps you are not aware that there are so many issues surrounding mental health? If you are further interested, I suggest you google any mental health survivor's group such as 'Mad Pride' or 'ECT Anonymous' etc. Bear in mind though, there are more than 2 sides to every story.


All the best and stay happy and humorous!
[Edited 10/20/12 2:56am]

erik319 said:

prb did ask a valid question. See my post above. Read a lot of the other posts though--many want to knock Prince for no real good reason. I like Prince and I don't like him being knocked. Knock me if you like, lol.


Andrew

andyf said:

thank you Andy.
Erik was just playing, he wasnt knocking me.
you made some very valid points
i did mention in this thread that i have 2 nephews with ADHD, so i do know the "stigma" attached, so i didnt ask this question flippantly.

i myself suffer from anxiety disorders/panic attacks combined with depression.

and i know the stigma that can be attached to that....and i dont care...i shout it out loud...the more ppl understand "disorders" the more they become a part of life, not an oddity.

I have ADD, was diagnosed with it back in my high-school does and occasionally when I really need to focus I take medication for it.

A friend of mine has ADHD and the two are clearly different in the way the individual behaves.

For example, at school, I wouldn't be able to focus on the subject, I'd start writing lyrics for a few minutes, then I'd start thinking about something else entirely, then something else, then I'd start drawing, then I'd start talking to someone sitting next to me about something random, then I'd do something else.....etc etc etc etc etc. Everything I'd do would pretty much go unfinished because my attention would shift somewhere else.

However my friend with ADHD would be similar in the sense of not being able to focus on anything, but he'd always be liable to do things like start climbing on the desk/yelling at the teacher/throwing things around/insulting people loudly/running around the classroom all the time. That's what the H stands for - Hyperactive.

I don't think Prince has either of these things though.

all of the above has nothing to do with frikkn star signs, its called being undisciplined. Prince isnt undisciplined, he just keeps moving onward, with completed projects behind him. Just because we do not see/hear them, doesn't make them exist any less.

Militant said:

It used to be known as ADD, the H was added later.

Yes there are different forms of adhd.

erik319 said:

So you mind that and u don't mind that the forum seems too keen to put him on medication? lol
[Edited 3/30/10 15:10pm]

jiorjios said:

I'm confused

prb said:

I know Erik was playing with you, he was joking, no worries. I don't think he realised that I knew you were fine, though. It was not your original message, but the ones that followed that irked me a little.

I am so glad you are happy to be honest about your past. I believe the best way to get rid of the stigma is to do just this. I have had depression myself amongst other things. I have been told to keep this quiet in the past. I think, "Why keep it quiet, the way to go beyond it, surely, is to not be ashamed of it". After all this is a part of my life. Telling me to keep it quiet in the context I was told was like telling Johnny Thunderpants to stop farting.

Indeed, I find people who have had depression/anxiety etc. are actually well place in society to comment on certain issues in life.

However, I do not believe in letting people know about other people's mental health issues--if they want to keep it private, they have more than a right to do this, and I can see why they do.

All the best

Andy Pandy

Militant said:

Thanks Militant. Brave, honest and kind!


Andy

erik319 said:

I think jiorjios means that medication is not necessarily scientifically proven either (drug companies, which are private businesses, do research under their own agenda), and that trying to put Prince on medication is as about as accurate as claiming it is his star sign. Both may be true, both may not be. Do tell me if I have misunderstood, jiorjios--good name, though!

Andy

andyf said:

it is part of me, no need to hide it
if i can help one person feel they arent alone , its worth it.

andyf said:

No you got me precisely... btw jiorjios is just a stupid way to write my real name... Yioryos... it is not a nickname lol