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Thread started 01/24/03 11:27pm

derek

PRINCE - The Businessman

It seems the purple one is letting his business interests get the better of him.

Is it just me or does the man seem to be obsessed with royalities and trademarks and copyright protection, etc???

Threatening & shutting down fan websites, telling his fans not to buy bootlegs, asking $$$ for everytime he gets his picture taken - even by a fan, charging some of the highest ticket prices for the ONA shows in 2002 - NPGMC members included...the list goes on and on.

I can understand he needs to make a living, and i respect his rights to protect what is lawfully his - but it seems to me there is a right way and a wrong way to carry out your business dealings.

It just seems to me that a musical artist shouldn't make it obvious that one his main driving forces is the dollar!

Mmmm...thoughts on this please!?!?!
oralI sincerely want 2 fuck the taste out of your mouth oral
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Reply #1 posted 01/24/03 11:39pm

Natasha

Prince is a Brilliant Businessman. More people should be so Wise. I think he's Right to Protect his Interests. Anyone who ever doubted him and his Abilities should Re-Think Their Position. Prince is Definitely a Force to be Reckoned With and Highly,Highly Intelligent. I give him so much Respect and Admiration for his Brilliance. It drives me Wild and makes me Hotter still for Him,cause I could Never Stand a Dumb Man. Prince is Incredibly Sexy not only for his Music and his Gorgeous Face but for his Mind. Listento Natasha this is the Best Musician in the World. Nobody can do more Musically. I firmly Predict Prince will see Great Things for Himself and his Career in the Coming Year ahead. He's an Upstanding Person and such an Asset to Any Group or Community.
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Reply #2 posted 01/25/03 12:00am

nunatak

I just want to hear more of his guitar
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Reply #3 posted 01/25/03 12:11am

lovemachine

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Natasha said:

Prince is a Brilliant Businessman.



Yeah lol rolleyes
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Reply #4 posted 01/25/03 12:47am

Joshy84au

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nunatak said:

I just want to hear more of his guitar

amen
can i get a witness in this house !!!

AMEN!
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Reply #5 posted 01/25/03 12:57am

harmony

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Joshy84au said:

nunatak said:

I just want to hear more of his guitar

amen
can i get a witness in this house !!!

AMEN!


woot! witness in da house smile

sadly as with all things that r part of a profit system... business is an essential inclusion... but it doesnt mean 1 has 2 make a mountain out of a mole hill hehe


bugger!
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Reply #6 posted 01/25/03 5:41am

thebumpsquad

I think it's time 4 him 2 chill the fuck out with all the law-suits.Get his OWN house in order first!!

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Reply #7 posted 01/25/03 5:44am

Alejandro

nunatak said:

I just want to hear more of his guitar

hell yea!
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Reply #8 posted 01/25/03 6:03am

CalhounSq

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Is it just me or does the man seem to be obsessed with royalities and trademarks and copyright protection, etc???


It's just you... and every 3rd person on this site... neutral

Threatening & shutting down fan websites...


sad

... telling his fans not to buy bootlegs...


That's reasonable - DON'T BUY THEM no no no! TRADE them nod

... asking $$$ for everytime he gets his picture taken - even by a fan...


That was a joke, I'm sure. An evil joke, but a joke nonetheless... evillol

... charging some of the highest ticket prices for the ONA shows in 2002 - NPGMC members included...


WORTH EVERY PENNY! headbang

...the list goes on and on.


Oh please, say it ain't so! shake

I can understand he needs to make a living, and i respect his rights to protect what is lawfully his - but it seems to me there is a right way and a wrong way to carry out your business dealings.


True dat, true dat...

It just seems to me that a musical artist shouldn't make it obvious that one his main driving forces is the dollar!


Anyone who wears that much jewelery is dropping hints all day regardless... neutral
He likes $, but he loves music... nod
How else is he supposed to make a living? Working @ Foot Locker on the weekends?? neutral

Mmmm...thoughts on this please!?!?!


Can we talk more about you fucking the taste out of my mouth? :O
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #9 posted 01/25/03 6:13am

derek

Calhoun...

At least u have a sense of humour bout it and r obviously intelligent on some level unlike some other peeps on this site!!!

And what more can i offer on fucking and tasting and mouths???

I think it's self-explanatory razz
oralI sincerely want 2 fuck the taste out of your mouth oral
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Reply #10 posted 01/25/03 6:13am

LaVisHh

Personally, I think Prince needs help in this department. It's been obvious to everyone but him, just how much better his career and financial status would be if he just hired the right people, paid them appropriately, and didn't feel like he needed complete control.

Funny thing is...lawyers. Many actually start to take over your life...ah, the irony.

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Reply #11 posted 01/25/03 6:14am

LaVisHh

CalhounSq said:

Can we talk more about you fucking the taste out of my mouth? :O


evillol
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Reply #12 posted 01/25/03 6:16am

CalhounSq

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derek said:

Calhoun...

At least u have a sense of humour bout it and r obviously intelligent on some level unlike some other peeps on this site!!!

And what more can i offer on fucking and tasting and mouths???

I think it's self-explanatory razz



I guess I wanted details... horny





:O
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #13 posted 01/25/03 6:17am

LaVisHh

CalhounSq said:

derek said:

Calhoun...

At least u have a sense of humour bout it and r obviously intelligent on some level unlike some other peeps on this site!!!

And what more can i offer on fucking and tasting and mouths???

I think it's self-explanatory razz



I guess I wanted details... horny





:O



:O

You like is slow, deep and hard, eh? lol
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Reply #14 posted 01/25/03 6:19am

CalhounSq

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LaVisHh said:

Personally, I think Prince needs help in this department. It's been obvious to everyone but him, just how much better his career and financial status would be if he just hired the right people, paid them appropriately, and didn't feel like he needed complete control.


Yes, he does need help. But any sane business person would have to beat him silly & get his ass in gear - you know P ain't havin' that! spank
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #15 posted 01/25/03 6:19am

CalhounSq

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LaVisHh said:

CalhounSq said:

derek said:

Calhoun...

At least u have a sense of humour bout it and r obviously intelligent on some level unlike some other peeps on this site!!!

And what more can i offer on fucking and tasting and mouths???

I think it's self-explanatory razz



I guess I wanted details... horny





:O



:O

You like is slow, deep and hard, eh? lol


:O OH MY... how'd you know that, LaV?? redface lol
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #16 posted 01/25/03 6:27am

derek

CalhounSq said:

LaVisHh said:

CalhounSq said:

derek said:

Calhoun...

At least u have a sense of humour bout it and r obviously intelligent on some level unlike some other peeps on this site!!!

And what more can i offer on fucking and tasting and mouths???

I think it's self-explanatory razz



I guess I wanted details... horny





:O



:O

You like is slow, deep and hard, eh? lol


:O OH MY... how'd you know that, LaV?? redface lol


Maybe i can show u in more detail at this year's celly razzrazzrazz (U started it!!)
oralI sincerely want 2 fuck the taste out of your mouth oral
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Reply #17 posted 01/25/03 6:30am

CalhounSq

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derek said:

CalhounSq said:

LaVisHh said:

CalhounSq said:

derek said:

Calhoun...

At least u have a sense of humour bout it and r obviously intelligent on some level unlike some other peeps on this site!!!

And what more can i offer on fucking and tasting and mouths???

I think it's self-explanatory razz



I guess I wanted details... horny





:O



:O

You like is slow, deep and hard, eh? lol


:O OH MY... how'd you know that, LaV?? redface lol


Maybe i can show u in more detail at this year's celly razzrazzrazz (U started it!!)


omfg OH MY... this has officially gone too far! evillol


razz
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #18 posted 01/25/03 8:47am

MiaBocca

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Natasha said:

Prince is a Brilliant Businessman. More people should be so Wise. I think he's Right to Protect his Interests. Anyone who ever doubted him and his Abilities should Re-Think Their Position. Prince is Definitely a Force to be Reckoned With and Highly,Highly Intelligent. I give him so much Respect and Admiration for his Brilliance. It drives me Wild and makes me Hotter still for Him,cause I could Never Stand a Dumb Man. Prince is Incredibly Sexy not only for his Music and his Gorgeous Face but for his Mind. Listento Natasha this is the Best Musician in the World. Nobody can do more Musically. I firmly Predict Prince will see Great Things for Himself and his Career in the Coming Year ahead. He's an Upstanding Person and such an Asset to Any Group or Community.


Right!

Can I say Crystal Ball?

Can I say NPG Magazine?

Can I say Truth Angel magazine after the owners became part of the "collective", leaving subscribers out of pocket?

Can I say The Last December, The Best of prince?

Can I say Crystal Ball II - he probably should keep his mouth shut about stuff he isn't definate on releasing, otherwise it just gets fans hopes up (and in the case of the CDs advertised in the back of the ONA tour book, possible legal action).

Prince is a terrible businessman, with absolutely no regard for customer care, satisfaction or loyalty.

Oh, BTW, I'm still waiting for my ONA, which after several emails to NPGMC over the course of several months, all I have received is psychobabble and bad manners from Lori.
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Reply #19 posted 01/25/03 8:51am

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Natasha said:

Prince is a Brilliant Businessman. More people should be so Wise. I think he's Right to Protect his Interests. Anyone who ever doubted him and his Abilities should Re-Think Their Position. Prince is Definitely a Force to be Reckoned With and Highly,Highly Intelligent. I give him so much Respect and Admiration for his Brilliance. It drives me Wild and makes me Hotter still for Him,cause I could Never Stand a Dumb Man. Prince is Incredibly Sexy not only for his Music and his Gorgeous Face but for his Mind. Listento Natasha this is the Best Musician in the World. Nobody can do more Musically. I firmly Predict Prince will see Great Things for Himself and his Career in the Coming Year ahead. He's an Upstanding Person and such an Asset to Any Group or Community.


stfu
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #20 posted 01/25/03 8:56am

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Natasha said:

Prince is a Brilliant Businessman. More people should be so Wise.

neutral

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lollolfalls off couch laughin my ass offlollol

now there's a good one...nod
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Reply #21 posted 01/25/03 1:46pm

Natasha

He is and him and the Club are Really doing a Good job. I complained at first about certain things,but the problems were Always taken Care of. I have no Qualms with prince or the Club and I think if you Really took a look at Prince and what he is doing you will See that as an Independent Artist he is doing PHENOMENAl. He totally,Totally Turns me On because he is Such his Own Man,Boss and In Control. I Adore him being much more Dominant a Figure. The man just What can I tell you Really gets me Hot. He is So Exciting and Cool. I Love that Man. He's such a Turn-On!
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Reply #22 posted 01/25/03 1:55pm

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Natasha said:

He is and him and the Club are Really doing a Good job. I complained at first about certain things,but the problems were Always taken Care of. I have no Qualms with prince or the Club and I think if you Really took a look at Prince and what he is doing you will See that as an Independent Artist he is doing PHENOMENAl. He totally,Totally Turns me On because he is Such his Own Man,Boss and In Control. I Adore him being much more Dominant a Figure. The man just What can I tell you Really gets me Hot. He is So Exciting and Cool. I Love that Man. He's such a Turn-On!


It b.s. like this that keeps the org, Prince , his music, and Prince fans from getting respect from the netpublic and public at large. You may have your fans but think of what you are doing every now and then would ya? And dont be emailing me either.
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #23 posted 01/25/03 1:57pm

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Anyone with a knowledge of how musicians have been treated in a financial sense by the induistry would neer question the business practices of Prince. Black musicians have been taken advantage of from day one. Chuck Berry and Little Richard truly are the architects of rock and roll and that have nothing close to what they should have.

For black business people and musicians, Prince is an example of what the enlightened and brave black artist can realize when he and she stands up for what is rightfully his or hers.

Ticket prices? Well, they are still less then U2, Madonna, Janet Jackson, and the Rolling Stomes. Prince still gives the best live show you are going to see so whatever he charges that is less than these lesser live acts is a damn bargin.

Read the history, youngsters. Prince did.
...cause FACE said so!!!
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Reply #24 posted 01/25/03 2:02pm

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I for one think that this kind of thing doesn't get discussed often enough on the Org. I vote for:

1) More topics containing complaints about Prince and his business practises

2) More topics containing complaints about Prince's religious beliefs etc

3) More topics containing complaints about how Prince's music is completely shit and why doesn't he get back to the kind of thing he did circa 1987

Then I'd be happy
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Reply #25 posted 01/25/03 2:37pm

rdhull

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MYNAMEISFACE said:

Anyone with a knowledge of how musicians have been treated in a financial sense by the induistry would neer question the business practices of Prince. Black musicians have been taken advantage of from day one. Chuck Berry and Little Richard truly are the architects of rock and roll and that have nothing close to what they should have.

For black business people and musicians, Prince is an example of what the enlightened and brave black artist can realize when he and she stands up for what is rightfully his or hers.

Ticket prices? Well, they are still less then U2, Madonna, Janet Jackson, and the Rolling Stomes. Prince still gives the best live show you are going to see so whatever he charges that is less than these lesser live acts is a damn bargin.

Read the history, youngsters. Prince did.


Get Princes dick outta your mouth..we all know Prince had been slighted as well as others by record cmpanies..but still, he himself has come up with some pretty fucked up business practices his damn self..not only music club wise or magazine etc subscription-wise, or ordering CB etc..but fucking up others who had signed with him on his company PP Records...he pulled a WB too at times . Face,"you're not too far gone to see that". Just because Prince and others were fucked over does not give him the carte blanche' to do the same.


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Reply #26 posted 01/25/03 4:02pm

LaVisHh

MYNAMEISFACE said:

Anyone with a knowledge of how musicians have been treated in a financial sense by the induistry would neer question the business practices of Prince. Black musicians have been taken advantage of from day one. Chuck Berry and Little Richard truly are the architects of rock and roll and that have nothing close to what they should have.

For black business people and musicians, Prince is an example of what the enlightened and brave black artist can realize when he and she stands up for what is rightfully his or hers.

Ticket prices? Well, they are still less then U2, Madonna, Janet Jackson, and the Rolling Stomes. Prince still gives the best live show you are going to see so whatever he charges that is less than these lesser live acts is a damn bargin.

Read the history, youngsters. Prince did.



Does this mean that it isn't wise for Prince to hire appropriate people to delegate responsiblity to? Prince seems to think that cheap pay, understaffing, and lawyers is all he needs for success.

I am only saying he could do MUCH better.
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Reply #27 posted 01/25/03 4:03pm

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LaVisHh said:[quote]

MYNAMEISFACE said:

Does this mean that it isn't wise for Prince to hire appropriate people to delegate responsiblity to? Prince seems to think that cheap pay, understaffing, and lawyers is all he needs for success.

I am only saying he could do MUCH better.

thank u!!! woot!

hug
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Reply #28 posted 01/25/03 4:08pm

LaVisHh

Handclapsfingasnapz said:[quote]

LaVisHh said:

MYNAMEISFACE said:

Does this mean that it isn't wise for Prince to hire appropriate people to delegate responsiblity to? Prince seems to think that cheap pay, understaffing, and lawyers is all he needs for success.

I am only saying he could do MUCH better.

thank u!!! woot!

hug


yay! It's been a while since we hugged! wink

hug biggrin
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Reply #29 posted 01/25/03 9:29pm

mistermaxxx

of course the Cat needs Business Help.He is so Damn Lucky He hasn't had too file Chapter 7&11 for His Crazy actions over the years.alot of Dead Weight on Paisley Park Records.He has pulled a Warner Brothers His Damn Self just ask Ta Mara better known as Margie Cox tied up too Prince for 7 Years&the same thing with Jill Jones.His 1-800 New Funk was a Bad Joke.the Cat is too shady when it comes too Business&Now with the way he does Business I see why His Ass be Having The Rock&Michael Duncan Clark Looking MOfo's Watching His Ass.Cat be trying too pull a Don King on folks.
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