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Thread started 03/21/10 7:13am

thebanishedone

Prince vs. Jesse who is better on jazz guitar

We often compare Prince and Jesse for their inspired rock lead guitar solos.
but what about their ventures into jazz guitar.
On Verbal Penetration we have great "Ali
vs. Frazier on which Jesse displays his Wes Montgomery influences.
On the other side Prince played some tasty
jazz guitar solos starting with 1985
Love Bizzare guitar solo,
Mountains extended version and great jazz guitar
on Get some Solo and some cuts on Xpectations.Prince's jazz licks are more
in the vein of George Benson.

So who plays jazz guitar better between these two guitar masters?

p.s. Prince and Jesse are not jazz guitar players but they ventured into that genre
so who did it with better results
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Reply #1 posted 03/21/10 7:22am

vitriol

None of the two can be deemed a jazz guitarist. So there's no comparison.
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Reply #2 posted 03/21/10 7:26am

zaza

vitriol said:

None of the two can be deemed a jazz guitarist. So there's no comparison.

yeahthat clapping
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Reply #3 posted 03/21/10 7:28am

thebanishedone

vitrol i see you didn't read my topic with interest so why bother to answer?
i'm not saying that They are jazz guitar players
i'm only asking who plays jazz better
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Reply #4 posted 03/21/10 7:36am

jonylawson

neutral
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Reply #5 posted 03/21/10 7:45am

vitriol

thebanishedone said:

vitrol i see you didn't read my topic with interest so why bother to answer?
i'm not saying that They are jazz guitar players
i'm only asking who plays jazz better



Yes. I read that properly.

It's the same if I ask "who's the better F1 driver, Julia Roberts or Oprah Winfrey. None of them is a F1 driver, but I keep on asking who's better as a F1 driver".

If you want an answer anyway, I'd say that even if any of them is millions of miles away from being a jazz guitarist, Jesse would be closer than Prince.

Prince just doesn't understand jazz phrasing. He thinks everything is rock.

And the examples you give don't say anything. It's only that on A Love Bizarre, Mountains, My Summertime Thang pt2 or Xemplify (I think that's the one) he used different scales to his usual pentatonic diarrohea.
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Reply #6 posted 03/21/10 7:48am

ernestsewell

zaza said:

vitriol said:

None of the two can be deemed a jazz guitarist. So there's no comparison.

yeahthat clapping

Ditto. It's not a damn contest anyway.
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Reply #7 posted 03/21/10 8:46am

thebanishedone

so Prince's guitar solo on the extended part of She Spoke to me,Get Some solo isn't jazz guitar solos
didn't know that
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Reply #8 posted 03/21/10 8:47am

thebanishedone

You say that kid of jazz pianist can't understand jazz phrasing,interesting
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Reply #9 posted 03/21/10 8:57am

Pentacle

thebanishedone said:

so Prince's guitar solo on the extended part of She Spoke to me,Get Some solo isn't jazz guitar solos
didn't know that


That is Levi, which should answer your question! Levi, Levi, Levi!
Stop the Prince Apologists ™
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Reply #10 posted 03/21/10 12:16pm

thebanishedone

it's not Levi
its Prince
Levi is on sexy mf
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Reply #11 posted 03/21/10 12:17pm

elmer

Jesse who?
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Reply #12 posted 03/21/10 1:08pm

Pentacle

thebanishedone said:

it's not Levi
its Prince
Levi is on sexy mf


No baby, it's Levi! She Spoke 2 Me was recorded at the same time as Sexy MF, only released years later. Levi also shares songwriting credits on Get Some Solo.
Stop the Prince Apologists ™
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Reply #13 posted 03/21/10 3:15pm

vitriol

thebanishedone said:

You say that kid of jazz pianist can't understand jazz phrasing,interesting
biggrin



I'd say you haven't listened to much jazz, have you?

But if you think the solo on She Spoke To Me (Ext) is played by Prince then it's plain to see you don't know what you're talking about.

I never heard John L. Nelson play apart from the 4 tracks he recorded for his album and the bit he played at a Prince aftershow.

So I can't say whether he was or not a proficient jazz improviser. I'd bet he wasn't anything to write home about.

But even if he could play like Art Tatum or Oscar Peterson, on which planet should a son 'automatically inherit' his dad's chops? Does swing run in the blood?
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Reply #14 posted 03/21/10 3:30pm

Marrk

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vitriol said:

thebanishedone said:

vitrol i see you didn't read my topic with interest so why bother to answer?
i'm not saying that They are jazz guitar players
i'm only asking who plays jazz better



Yes. I read that properly.

It's the same if I ask "who's the better F1 driver, Julia Roberts or Oprah Winfrey. None of them is a F1 driver, but I keep on asking who's better as a F1 driver".



Oprah would never get her humongous fat ass in the cockpit, so Julia wins!
Yeah, we'll, we'll try to imagine what silence looks like.
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Reply #15 posted 03/21/10 3:45pm

Hatman

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Miko
Take it - like Clarence said:
"I got a million of them -
all different U know."
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