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Biographies of Biracial Achievers: Prince (childrens book) From amazon.com (it was already published in 2009 but I haven't seen it before and couldn't find a mention here on the org):
Prince: Singer-Songwriter, Musician, and Record Producer (Transcending Race in America: Biographies of Biracial Achievers) (Hardcover) ~ David Robson # Reading level: Ages 9-12 # Hardcover: 64 pages # Publisher: Mason Crest Publishers (October 15, 2009) # Language: English # ISBN-10: 1422216144 # ISBN-13: 978-1422216149 # Product Dimensions: 9.3 x 7.3 x 0.4 inches Formerly known as Parade @ HQ and formerly proud owner of www.paradetour.com | |
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Prince is a hair-hopper. | |
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What do you teach a child? | |
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That is so misleading, because he was born from two black parents, which does not make him biracial. Somebody's been watching the Purple Rain movie way too much. . [Edited 3/9/10 7:38am] | |
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Now if you want to talk biracial, let's talk about a real biracial person - Halle Berry
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those book covers are hideous | |
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2elijah said: That is so misleading, because he was born from two black parents, which does not make him biracial. Somebody's been watching the Purple Rain movie way too much. .
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2elijah said: That is so misleading, because he was born from two black parents, which does not make him biracial. Somebody's been watching the Purple Rain movie way too much. .
[Edited 3/9/10 7:38am] U r the misleading one, lying, calling both Prince parents just "black", when they were part white (his mother was triracial, black, white and amerindian, u can see their parents inside the Emancipation cd booklet, they are not just/fully "black"), they said it themselves. Prince himself in interviews said he was mixed. "My grandfather, John's grandfather, it was a racially mixed family"-Mattie Shaw, Prince's mother. From the book Inside the Purple Reign (1984) by Jon Bream. Book Purple Reign (1998) by Liz Jones (page 24): "I never did a family tree. John has some Italian in him. Mattie was part African-American, part Native American, part white." u r labeling Prince's mom and dad as "black" when they were part white and part amerindian, Prince has some "white" from both parents. Biracial just means the person has 2 races in his dna, it doesn't necesarily mean 50%black+50%white. Just as Triracial doesn't necesarily mean 3 equal parts 33.33% black, 33.33% white, 33.33% americanindian. For example a person whose mother is half black-half white and father is half black-half white, is biracial, half black half white just like his parents, but in the case both parents are labeled (by themselves and/or others) as just "black", that would make u say the child is just "black" when actually he is biracial, 50/50 just as much white as he is black. do u belong to Nation of Islam or something? They wouldn't go as far as to print a book 'Biographies of Biracial Achievers: Prince' without checking Prince's biographies and interviews first. Prince obviously has some (i'm not saying he is 50% white) white in him it's visible in his skin color and nose, lips, etc. http://www.comedycentral....oId=162807 The Racial Draft-Chappelle's Show. [Edited 3/9/10 13:34pm] [Edited 3/9/10 13:36pm] [Edited 3/9/10 13:41pm] [Edited 3/9/10 13:43pm] [Edited 3/9/10 13:45pm] | |
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Gonzalo1979 said: 2elijah said: That is so misleading, because he was born from two black parents, which does not make him biracial. Somebody's been watching the Purple Rain movie way too much. .
[Edited 3/9/10 7:38am] U r the misleading one, lying, calling both Prince parents just "black", when they were part white (his mother was triracial, black, white and amerindian, u can see their parents inside the Emancipation cd booklet, they are not just/fully "black"), they said it themselves. Prince himself in interviews said he was mixed. "My grandfather, John's grandfather, it was a racially mixed family"-Mattie Shaw, Prince's mother. From the book Inside the Purple Reign (1984) by Jon Bream. Book Purple Reign (1998) by Liz Jones (page 24): "I never did a family tree. John has some Italian in him. Mattie was part African-American, part Native American, part white." u r labeling Prince's mom and dad as "black" when they were part white and part amerindian, Prince has some "white" from both parents. Biracial just means the person has 2 races in his dna, it doesn't necesarily mean 50%black+50%white. For example a person whose mother is half black-half white and father is half black-half white, is biracial, half black half white just like his parents, but in the case both parents label themselves as just "black", that would make u say the child is just "black" when actually he is biracial, 50/50 just as much white as he is black. do u belong to Nation of Islam or something? They wouldn't go as far as to print a book 'Biographies of Biracial Achievers: Prince' without checking Prince's biographies and interviews first. Prince obviously has some (i'm not saying he is 50% white) white in him it's visible in his skin color and nose, lips, etc. http://www.comedycentral....oId=162807 The Racial Draft-Chappelle's Show. You think not? PETA still touts him as a vegan, when he isn't. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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Genesia, u gotta be kidding, it's completely different, Prince can become a vegan or stop being one, but he can't change his dna, multiracial, mostly black, yes, but also has white and amerindian in his dna. The book is right, Prince has transcended race. Labeling people as "black" or "white" is racist, nobody is 100% pure one race, to be called just "white", or "black".
Please check this out: http://thestudyofracialis...t5629.html "Is Prince Black?" [Edited 3/9/10 13:58pm] [Edited 3/9/10 14:03pm] [Edited 3/9/10 14:05pm] [Edited 3/9/10 14:05pm] | |
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Gonzalo1979 said: 2elijah said: That is so misleading, because he was born from two black parents, which does not make him biracial. Somebody's been watching the Purple Rain movie way too much. .
[Edited 3/9/10 7:38am] U r the misleading one, lying, calling both Prince parents just "black", when they were part white (his mother was triracial, black, white and amerindian, u can see their parents inside the Emancipation cd booklet, they are not just/fully "black"), they said it themselves. Prince himself in interviews said he was mixed. "My grandfather, John's grandfather, it was a racially mixed family"-Mattie Shaw, Prince's mother. From the book Inside the Purple Reign (1984) by Jon Bream. Book Purple Reign (1998) by Liz Jones (page 24): "I never did a family tree. John has some Italian in him. Mattie was part African-American, part Native American, part white." u r labeling Prince's mom and dad as "black" when they were part white and part amerindian, Prince has some "white" from both parents. Biracial just means the person has 2 races in his dna, it doesn't necesarily mean 50%black+50%white. Just as Triracial doesn't necesarily mean 3 equal parts 33.33% black, 33.33% white, 33.33% americanindian. For example a person whose mother is half black-half white and father is half black-half white, is biracial, half black half white just like his parents, but in the case both parents are labeled (by themselves and/or others) as just "black", that would make u say the child is just "black" when actually he is biracial, 50/50 just as much white as he is black. do u belong to Nation of Islam or something? They wouldn't go as far as to print a book 'Biographies of Biracial Achievers: Prince' without checking Prince's biographies and interviews first. Prince obviously has some (i'm not saying he is 50% white) white in him it's visible in his skin color and nose, lips, etc. http://www.comedycentral....oId=162807 The Racial Draft-Chappelle's Show. [Edited 3/9/10 13:34pm] [Edited 3/9/10 13:36pm] [Edited 3/9/10 13:41pm] [Edited 3/9/10 13:43pm] [Edited 3/9/10 13:45pm] My mother is a White Russian. My father is a Black African American I'm still Russian/African American. All Americans that are Black don't have to be dark-skinned. a black person can even be fair-skinned and is still black. 33.3% all of that don't make sense unless you are a genetics researcher. And your nose, lips don't mean nothing neither. Went on a topic of a book, now on the topic of race. He's Black. | |
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Prince is African American with multiracial background like most african americans. He's not Biracial Can You Dig It... I Sure Can | |
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dothejump said: From amazon.com (it was already published in 2009 but I haven't seen it before and couldn't find a mention here on the org):
Prince: Singer-Songwriter, Musician, and Record Producer (Transcending Race in America: Biographies of Biracial Achievers) (Hardcover) ~ David Robson # Reading level: Ages 9-12 # Hardcover: 64 pages # Publisher: Mason Crest Publishers (October 15, 2009) # Language: English # ISBN-10: 1422216144 # ISBN-13: 978-1422216149 # Product Dimensions: 9.3 x 7.3 x 0.4 inches I simply must buy this book, even if it is intended for children. It must be a hilarious read. I wonder what "facts" and sources they use? I certainly hope they didn't come to this message board for information. | |
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According to several states laws if you have one drop of Black blood you are considered Black.This has changed but in the eyes of many Americans( Black and White) this rule still applies.
Besides 70% of all people considered Black are mixed with some type of "other" race. There are many books on this subject. | |
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As a light-skinned black man, from two black parents, I find it ammusing when these non-black Prince fans come on here and try as hard as they can to claim prince as anything but African-American. I have a multiracial background just Like Prince and like the majority of African-Americans. But no matter how you try to slice and dice it: WE ARE BLACK. We don't consider ourselves mixed but we know back in the slave days mixing did take place in our bloodline
Prince identifies himself as a black man (or in his many song lyrics, as a "brotha" and sometimes "nigga" and don't forget about all his NAACP and BET awards!). In fact he's more in touch with his "blackness" than many black folks I know, including myself. Point is, the man is black. A very cool and eclectic black man. Ask his sister Tyka. And do youself a favor and forget the white women who "played" his mom in Purple Rain, and really LISTEN to Family Name, Dreamer and Dear Mr. Man. [Edited 3/10/10 8:55am] | |
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WTF! this book gives a poor message to kids. why does the world keep lumping people into colour catagories? seriously who gives a fuck what race prince is? i see a (sexy) american man with fucking godlike genius dna | |
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Are they still on this "Prince is biracial" shit again? For years, even before "Purple Rain", I thought Prince was biracial myself because he threw the earlier magazines hints that he was. I even believed it on up until probably around the "Emancipation" era when I actually saw a picture of his mother rather than just going by the hints that Prince had thrown over the years. I had seen a picture of his father (who was black) shortly after the "Purple Rain" era and when I saw a picture of his mother years later, who was black also, I simply said to myself..."Oh well, Prince lied"...and that was the end of it. It was no big deal and there was certainly no reason to cling to the illusion that he tried to give.
If he was biracial, that was fine. It was certainly interesting. But finding out that he was black rather than biracial was no big deal because, hell, what's wrong with being black? Andy is a four letter word. | |
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Vumiko said: As a light-skinned black man, from two black parents, I find it ammusing when these non-black Prince fans come on here and try as hard as they can to claim prince as anything but African-American. I have a multiracial background just Like Prince and like the majority of African-Americans. But no matter how you try to slice and dice it: WE ARE BLACK. We don't consider ourselves mixed but we know back in the slave days mixing did take place in our bloodline
Prince identifies himself as a black man (or in his many song lyrics, as a "brotha" and sometimes "nigga" and don't forget about all his NAACP and BET awards!). In fact he's more in touch with his "blackness" than many black folks I know, including myself. Point is, the man is black. A very cool and eclectic black man. Ask his sister Tyka. And do youself a favor and forget the white women who "played" his mom in Purple Rain, and really LISTEN to Family Name, Dreamer and Dear Mr. Man. well said. | |
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Gonzalo1979 said: 2elijah said: That is so misleading, because he was born from two black parents, which does not make him biracial. Somebody's been watching the Purple Rain movie way too much. .
[Edited 3/9/10 7:38am] U r the misleading one, lying, calling both Prince parents just "black", when they were part white (his mother was triracial, black, white and amerindian, u can see their parents inside the Emancipation cd booklet, they are not just/fully "black"), they said it themselves. Prince himself in interviews said he was mixed. "My grandfather, John's grandfather, it was a racially mixed family"-Mattie Shaw, Prince's mother. From the book Inside the Purple Reign (1984) by Jon Bream. Book Purple Reign (1998) by Liz Jones (page 24): "I never did a family tree. John has some Italian in him. Mattie was part African-American, part Native American, part white." u r labeling Prince's mom and dad as "black" when they were part white and part amerindian, Prince has some "white" from both parents. Biracial just means the person has 2 races in his dna, it doesn't necesarily mean 50%black+50%white. Just as Triracial doesn't necesarily mean 3 equal parts 33.33% black, 33.33% white, 33.33% americanindian. For example a person whose mother is half black-half white and father is half black-half white, is biracial, half black half white just like his parents, but in the case both parents are labeled (by themselves and/or others) as just "black", that would make u say the child is just "black" when actually he is biracial, 50/50 just as much white as he is black. do u belong to Nation of Islam or something? They wouldn't go as far as to print a book 'Biographies of Biracial Achievers: Prince' without checking Prince's biographies and interviews first. Prince obviously has some (i'm not saying he is 50% white) white in him it's visible in his skin color and nose, lips, etc. http://www.comedycentral....oId=162807 The Racial Draft-Chappelle's Show. [Edited 3/9/10 13:34pm] [Edited 3/9/10 13:36pm] [Edited 3/9/10 13:41pm] [Edited 3/9/10 13:43pm] [Edited 3/9/10 13:45pm] Do you think society knows each individual's family tree when they see them on the street or even cares? When they see someone, they immediately see either "white", "black", "hispanic", "asian", etc. They don't know the entire history of that person's family, nor do they care. My grandmother on my mother's side used to brag when she would get mad...."You don't want to mess with me, my grandmother was a full blooded Indian (Native American)" so that lets me know I have Native American in me from generations back. My father, on the other hand, is about is white as white can be, has no other races in his family tree (his racist ass has traced his family tree), and is the most racist person I've ever been in contact with. Yeah, I'd love to consider myself biracial also considering that my great great grandmother on my mother's side was a Native American, hell I'd love to consider myself anything other than just full flooded "white" considering that the white race in this country has done some extremely embarassing things in the past, but I do live in reality. Both my parents are white so I'm white also. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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Gonzalo1979 said: 2elijah said: That is so misleading, because he was born from two black parents, which does not make him biracial. Somebody's been watching the Purple Rain movie way too much. .
[Edited 3/9/10 7:38am] U r the misleading one, lying, calling both Prince parents just "black", when they were part white (his mother was triracial, black, white and amerindian, u can see their parents inside the Emancipation cd booklet, they are not just/fully "black"), they said it themselves. Prince himself in interviews said he was mixed. "My grandfather, John's grandfather, it was a racially mixed family"-Mattie Shaw, Prince's mother. From the book Inside the Purple Reign (1984) by Jon Bream. Book Purple Reign (1998) by Liz Jones (page 24): "I never did a family tree. John has some Italian in him. Mattie was part African-American, part Native American, part white." u r labeling Prince's mom and dad as "black" when they were part white and part amerindian, Prince has some "white" from both parents. Biracial just means the person has 2 races in his dna, it doesn't necesarily mean 50%black+50%white. Just as Triracial doesn't necesarily mean 3 equal parts 33.33% black, 33.33% white, 33.33% americanindian. For example a person whose mother is half black-half white and father is half black-half white, is biracial, half black half white just like his parents, but in the case both parents are labeled (by themselves and/or others) as just "black", that would make u say the child is just "black" when actually he is biracial, 50/50 just as much white as he is black. do u belong to Nation of Islam or something? They wouldn't go as far as to print a book 'Biographies of Biracial Achievers: Prince' without checking Prince's biographies and interviews first. Prince obviously has some (i'm not saying he is 50% white) white in him it's visible in his skin color and nose, lips, etc. http://www.comedycentral....oId=162807 The Racial Draft-Chappelle's Show. STOP IT,PLEASE! Prince is a black man.End of story.Let's stop it with all this 'he's half this,he's half that,he's a quarter of this,he's 25% this' nonsense" It's really annoying. | |
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This seems to be a touchy subject with orgers.
Prince is not biracial. If anything, he is like most of us American who were born into multi-racial families. Proof? Biracial is only having two distinct races and I don't even think that's possible anymore. People been traveling and having sex way before documented travel. I'm sorry, but there are no pure races because a long time ago (or not so long ago depending on an individual's ancestry), someone procreated with someone who was of a different race. Also, if you really want to go there, it was mentioned (by who?) that one drop of black makes you black. | |
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2elijah said: That is so misleading, because he was born from two black parents, which does not make him biracial. Somebody's been watching the Purple Rain movie way too much. .
So many people still don't realize that 'black people' come in all shades.I remember a co-worker of mine (who's white) actually said this,with a straight face: "I can't believe that so many people think Prince is black,just because of the way he dances" | |
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he looks like a puppy! | |
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SoulAlive said: 2elijah said: That is so misleading, because he was born from two black parents, which does not make him biracial. Somebody's been watching the Purple Rain movie way too much. .
So many people still don't realize that 'black people' come in all shades.I remember a co-worker of mine (who's white) actually said this,with a straight face: "I can't believe that so many people think Prince is black,just because of the way he dances" Well, they should come see my two biological sisters, because they are much lighter than me, and we are biologically related, and not from biracial parents. Many people are so clueless about African-American culture because it is not studied enough in the classrooms. They need to tell the truth as to why many of the descendants of Africans are so varied in complexion, and what contributed to many of those complexions, but that's a real ugly part of history, you won't find printed in many textbooks, and still in 2010, people have the nerve to still question the various complexions among African-Americans. This is what happens when you are taught historic lies or not taught real education about specific groups. Many don't take interest in studying our group and rely on lies and stereotypical, ignorant BS as their education about us. Not surprising that some still think that when you say "Black" people, you are referring to those only with a dark-skinned tone. We're a multiracial group and have quite a few race groups' DNA running through our veins. We're defined as Black as a group, regardless of the diverse complexions among us, and defining oneself as "Black or African-American" goes beyond just meaning "skin" color;it encompasses much much more like our shared histories/various ethnic groups/complexions/languages/dialects/various lifestyles and cultures. [Edited 3/10/10 9:32am] | |
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This thread is 60% misinformed, 40% wrong and a 100% stupid.
What is with all these percentages? We're all a hundred percent human. >> | |
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SoulAlive said: Gonzalo1979 said: U r the misleading one, lying, calling both Prince parents just "black", when they were part white (his mother was triracial, black, white and amerindian, u can see their parents inside the Emancipation cd booklet, they are not just/fully "black"), they said it themselves. Prince himself in interviews said he was mixed. "My grandfather, John's grandfather, it was a racially mixed family"-Mattie Shaw, Prince's mother. From the book Inside the Purple Reign (1984) by Jon Bream. Book Purple Reign (1998) by Liz Jones (page 24): "I never did a family tree. John has some Italian in him. Mattie was part African-American, part Native American, part white." u r labeling Prince's mom and dad as "black" when they were part white and part amerindian, Prince has some "white" from both parents. Biracial just means the person has 2 races in his dna, it doesn't necesarily mean 50%black+50%white. Just as Triracial doesn't necesarily mean 3 equal parts 33.33% black, 33.33% white, 33.33% americanindian. For example a person whose mother is half black-half white and father is half black-half white, is biracial, half black half white just like his parents, but in the case both parents are labeled (by themselves and/or others) as just "black", that would make u say the child is just "black" when actually he is biracial, 50/50 just as much white as he is black. do u belong to Nation of Islam or something? They wouldn't go as far as to print a book 'Biographies of Biracial Achievers: Prince' without checking Prince's biographies and interviews first. Prince obviously has some (i'm not saying he is 50% white) white in him it's visible in his skin color and nose, lips, etc. http://www.comedycentral....oId=162807 The Racial Draft-Chappelle's Show. STOP IT,PLEASE! Prince is a black man.End of story.Let's stop it with all this 'he's half this,he's half that,he's a quarter of this,he's 25% this' nonsense" It's really annoying. When is Gonzalo going to stop this obsession with separating Black people?. When will this guy learn about the America's involvement in slavery, and learn about African-Americans as a people and our diverse culture and history? When is Gonzalo going to learn that all American Black people carry some DNA just about from every race group, which doesn't deny our African ancestry? Gonzalo seems to be very undereducated about African-Americans and I'm getting tired of him telling us how to recognize our own people, when he has absolutely no clue about African-Americans. [Edited 3/10/10 9:09am] | |
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2elijah said: I'm getting tired of him telling us how to recognize our own people, when he has absolutely no clue about African-Americans.
A 100% fool? >> | |
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HamsterHuey said: 2elijah said: I'm getting tired of him telling us how to recognize our own people, when he has absolutely no clue about African-Americans.
A 100% fool? Where was Gonzalo when Prince's own sister, Tyka, stated during her not so recent interview with a radio station, when she defined their family as Black when she spoke about growing up in Minnesota? I mean those words came right from his sister's mouth. You mean to tell me Gonzalo would take John Bream's word over Prince's own biological sister? [Edited 3/10/10 9:13am] | |
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vainandy said: Do you think society knows each individual's family tree when they see them on the street or even cares? When they see someone, they immediately see either "white", "black", "hispanic", "asian", etc. They don't know the entire history of that person's family, nor do they care. My grandmother on my mother's side used to brag when she would get mad...."You don't want to mess with me, my grandmother was a full blooded Indian (Native American)" so that lets me know I have Native American in me from generations back. My father, on the other hand, is about is white as white can be, has no other races in his family tree (his racist ass has traced his family tree), and is the most racist person I've ever been in contact with. Yeah, I'd love to consider myself biracial also considering that my great great grandmother on my mother's side was a Native American, hell I'd love to consider myself anything other than just full flooded "white" considering that the white race in this country has done some extremely embarassing things in the past, but I do live in reality. Both my parents are white so I'm white also. That's right, and of course, once again, Vainandy "tells it like it is, and not what some folks want it to be." This topic of Prince's race will never end it seems. [Edited 3/10/10 9:35am] | |
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2elijah said: HamsterHuey said: A 100% fool? Where was Gonzalo when Prince's own sister, Tyka, stated during her not so recent interview with a radio station, when she defined their family as Black when she spoke about growing up in Minnesota? I mean those words came right from his sister's mouth. You mean to tell me Gonzalo would take John Bream's word over Prince's own biological sister? I find the entire percentage thing funny, to be honest. From my own experience, once people view you as coloured, you are. It's like a sort of competition of percentages. We all get judged by others on our appearances, black, white and every colour in between, why are percentages important? I try to look beyond all that, always have. Prince probably tried to communicate that it really doesn't matter, when he stated his mother's ethnicity. "White, Black, Puerto Rican, everybody just a-freakin" There was a time he was shifty about all of that, but that because he was trying to rise above all of that, be open to all and everything. But he never denied being black, to my knowledge. >> | |
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