DesireeNevermind said:

SoulAlive said:

We'll have to agree to disagree. Like I wrote, I have not seen the film, so cannot comment on any message you think he was conveying. However, I feel Prince generally is misunderstood, and my guess (my guess! I am not saying this is true!), is that Graffiti Bridge the film was misunderstood. And for me the following is more than a guess: Graffiti Bridge the album was misunderstood. Graffiti Bridge is actually a person, it is a name for someone. And everybody's looking for Graffiti Bridge. Someone who makes you laugh when you wanna cry. Melody Cool too is a person, a female. When she was born there were tidal waves. In other words she is Mother Earth (or a representative of Mother Earth thereof), or the daughter of Mother Earth in an allegorical sense. Release It is about the male/female tension. A certain bloke is coming back to the town to claim his due (Have you seen John Wayne's Quiet Man--it has a very similar sentiment). Joy In Repetition, well you would probably not believe what this song is about. What do you think her name was? All she said was 'Love me'. She said, let me write this again, 'Love me'. And the NPG, which generation is Prince singing about?

Why do we all think we are so clever that we 'understand' what other people are trying to do? Do we really know another person's mind? Our own even? Can we even predict tomorrow's weather? How clever are we really? All the above regarding Prince is my guess, my interpretation. I may be wrong in none, some, most or all of the above about him. Apologies to Prince in advance if I am.

My God, how misunderstood has Prince been through all these 26 years since I have heard of him? (IMHO, you understand). My hat goes off to Mr P. R. Nelson's restraint and patience in this matter.

All the best

Andy Pandy, from the land of Candy

Having read the leaked earlier version of the script this would have been a great movie if Prince had done three things.

1.Kept Basinger on
2.Listened to other peoples advice regarding script and narative structure (I don't think this is true of his music careerer but feature films are not one man en devours)
3.Filmed the exterieors on location rather than the Paisley Park lot

I enjoy the film I just understand why it's a bad film and why non Prince fans don't like it.

Damn

chopingard said:

That's not exclusive to non Prince fans.

Prince is freakishly talented in all (most?) things musical. However on the odd occasion his ego has convinced him that this must also be the case with film. How different could they be..?

Unfortunately the reality is he's simply an ordinary film maker (at best), and left to his own devices, as he was with GB, the results are nothing short of embarrassing.

Wasn't Janet Jackson and Madonna asked to be in this farce?

I think I read back in the day where Janet was asked to play the Ingrd Chavez role and Prince was only going to direct. Then when the project started falling apart Prince was told by WB that he could fulfil part of a contract if he appeared in the movie.This is coming off the top of my head and my details may be sketchy here.

Bottom line the movie shouldn't have been made period.

I'd have White Chicks at number one on this list and Undercover Brother at number two!

Making Graffiti Bridge no. 1 over garbage like Soul Plane is just bogus

Further proof of the lack of credibility is the inclusion of The Wiz - a classic by any standards.

What the heck was "The Black Gestapo"?



And um....dude need to take off Detroit 9000. Wudn't nuthin wrong wit dat!

TyphoonTip said:

Lol, I like your Alan Partridge by-line. Funny that, maybe people are misinterpreting Prince the way Partridge misinterpreted Sunday Bloody Sunday by U2.

Calf's funny too. I'd rather watch Dave Lee Travis play Macbeth.


Andy Fiol (quicker than a ray of light? Maybe not!)

DesireeNevermind said:

I had to IMDB many of those movie titles.

muleFunk said:

No,Janet Jackson was never attached to this project

In late 1986,there were plans for a Time movie in which Janet would co-star.The plan was for the band to reunite,record a soundtrack,and film the movie.Prince has nothing to do with this particular project and it was never completed,even though contracts were signed (Jess Johnson confirmed this).

In 1989,there were tentative plans for the Time to do a movie (different from the earlier film idea) in which Prince would be the director (and possibly make a cameo appearance).Warners eventually rejected this idea and agreed to fund a movie but only if it's a "Prince movie" featuring the Time.

Prince had been toying with the idea of 'Graffiti Bridge' for several years.In September 1987,he invited Madonna to Paisley Park Studios to present the script to her.He wanted her to co-star.Her character would be battling Cat for Prince's affections.Madonna turned this role down.

By late 1989,Prince was working with his then-girlfriend Kim Basinger on a completely different script.Someone who has seen this script described it as "a story about a guy who goes looking for God.God looks alot like Kim Basinger" Thinking that the red-hot Basinger would be involved,Warners was very enthusiastic about the project and gave Prince the go-ahead to film the movie.

Kim left the project in early 1990,and Prince gave the role to Ingrid Chavez,after making a few script changes.

andyf said:

Prince has said that "Nobody understood 'The Wizard Of Oz' when it was first released,and now it's considered a classic" Somehow,I don't think that 'Graffiti Bridge' is gonna have that same luck,lol.

chopingard said:

No,I don't think that even she could have saved this turkey At the time,she was riding high with 'Batman',this would have been a horrible follow-up film for her,lol.She was wise to walk away.





This I can agree with it.In fact,the movie was supposed to be directed by Al Magnoli,the guy who directed 'Purple Rain'.They got into a disagreement and Prince insisted on directing it himself.




Agreed.

SoulAlive said:

Thanks !

I have been tearing my house up looking for my old music mags with this info.

SoulAlive said:

It's not about whether something is successful or not. It's about whether it's been misunderstood. And Prince, I think (and by extension GB the film) is misunderstood. Feel free to lol (Fiol Free).

Citizen Kane was not respected until 10 years after. Van Gogh until after he died. Thankfully, there are a few enlightened beings who understand Prince now (and I am not necessarily saying I am one of them...)

However, you help me here, even though that was probably not your intention, lol. If Prince said that about 'Oz,' it probably means he agrees with me that his Graffiti Bridge was misunderstood. Thanks SoulAlive, lol. There are many who still do not understand The Wizard of Oz.

Andy Fiol

SoulAlive said:

Unless they can CGI some flying monkeys shooting out of Morris Day's ass, I'm never gonna be watching it again.

andyf said:

Proof, if proof be needed that you shouldn't comment on something that you know nothing about.

Go watch the film. Embrace the disappointment. Move on.

erik319 said:

i wasnt disappointed by the movie

i appreciated it for what it was

citrus said:

...a disappointment.

TyphoonTip said:

nice try but you cant change what i meant

citrus said:

What was it then? In your opinion,

andyf said:

Please watch 'Graffiti Bridge' this weekend,and let me know what you think

HonestMan13 said:

One drop of acting rule.....

I like all of these flicks.

1. Graffiti Bridge (1990)
11. Vampire in Brooklyn (1995)
12. The Perfect Holiday (2007)
13. Phat Girlz (2006)
20. B.A.P.S. (1997)

3. How High (2001)
24. Meteor Man (1993)
42. Under the Cherry Moon (1986)
44. Meet Dave (2008)
61. Bones (2001)
72. Head of State (2003)
73. Double Take (2001)
77. Waist Deep (2006)
86. The Distinguished Gentlemen (1992)
90. Little Man (2006)
93. Higher Learning (1995)
96. Colors (1988)
98. White Chicks (2004)

DesireeNevermind said:

Desiree, lawd I don't know how you could put PR before UTCM. I didn't like UTCM, it was just too many "minstrel" scenes, in many parts of that movie for me, but hey to each their own. :

Why the heck is The Wiz on that list? That's one of the best musicals of all time!

I've never seen soul plane, but I still know Graffiti Bridge was better than that! LOL

erik319 said:

Stop mocking. Proof, if proof be needed that you have misunderstood my post.