PositivityNYC said:

Nothing racist about that gif at all! It's a caricature!!!!

garganta said:

Vendetta1 said:

Gonzalo1979 said:

Of for goodness sakes, Prince is a Black man. Prince is no more multiracial than any other black man in America you see on the street. Wheter they are a lighter-skinned or darker-skinned African-America. What the heck is wrong with people trying to make this man what he isn't, Would that make you accept him more if he was as far away from having any Black African ancestry at all? I find that insulting. Prince is Black and that's a fact. All Black people don't have the same facial features/skin color/hair textures; there is no "one" description that puts the seal on how every Black person should look. Not every Black person has what you consider a "negroid" type nose or featuress, which doesn't make them less black.

Read about the history of America and the Caribbean;read about what happened when many African women were raped by many of the slaveholders;why do you think there's so many black people with various features, complexions long before the post-slavery era? It's not that difficult to figure out.

Check out some genetic scientists like Spencer Wells and you will learn something about the varying physical features of the human race.

If people take the time to research America and the Caribbean's ugly and disgraceful past, then they wouldn't be in question in "2010" why so many black people don't "fit" many of the stereotypical, brainwashed images that were fed to the masses. All it takes is some "effort" to do some research. See this is what happens when people try to discuss and educate others about America's shameful history when the slaveholders used black women like breeders, and about the history and various cultures of people of Black-African descent around the world. Maybe if people took the time and effort to educate themselves about it, instead of classifying "specific" blacks in categories they feel comfortable with, based on lies and ignorance, then they'd have a much clearer view about Blacks in this country and around the world.

Now generations later, people have the nerve to question why there are so many black people in various shades walking around America and the Caribbean? You sure you want me to go into ugly details about it, as the documented facts are quite disturbing. Let me know if you would like me to recommend some books on the history of slavery, in America and the Caribbean and how that was a contributing factor to the existence of the varying populations of American/Caribbean Blacks living today. This topic can be discussed on another thread, because you already took the thread completely off topic.


Now about that baby video...what's your take on it dude?
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Paris9748430 said:

To me, the fact that there's a baby involved illustrates how mental this issue has gotten, that a 30 second clip of a baby dancing to a song in the background is considered copyright infringement, whether it's Prince or the labels doing it.

NelsonR said:

I will forgive your lack of legal knowledge, but I will not forigive your audicity to come in here and claim this decision infringes upon artists rights, when you have no clue whatsoever what you are talking about.

errant said:

And I (any similarities to other living or dead person is entirely coincidencial) really think the owner of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turles™ should sue the mum © since her other, older son clearly is wearing a t-shirt™© with Teenage Mutant Ninja Turles™ printed on it, as he runs past the camera® for 0.1 second.

Will the infringements never stop?

Oh Lord™ have mercy.
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soulfunky said:

Dude please, it's amazing how people try to water down being African-American or Black American as though it has no value at all.

lastdecember said:

I notice that WB and Universal have requested many videos of their artists, to be taken off of youtube. We shall see what becomes of all this, after this case, with other artists' material.
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soulfunky said:

The point is that Prince has publically indentified himself as an African American several times and that should be respected. It's not a matter of being claimed by whomever. That is how he identifies himself and it isn't up to you or me to say otherwise.

Prince's bloodline is no more or less diverse than a typical African American and people should respect however we choose to identify ourselves, period.

On topic, *my apologies to the OP*

I'm glad the case is settled and hopefully some sensible precedent and guidelines will be observed in the future.

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Tremolina said:

Exactly. I do have legal knowledge (I wasted about $25,000 getting a useless paralegal degree! lol) but it definetly isnt needed for a situtation like this. All this requires is common sense. I can almost guarantee everyone on this forum has danced to a Prince song (or any other artist's music). And at some point I bet at least 50% of the people here have been video taped dancing to a Prince song or a song by some other artist. Hell, I've got pictures of myself from when I was 5 singing MJ into a broomstick and if my mom would have had a video camera back then she probably would have recorded it.

Now, if those 50% recorded it, probably 100% of those have shared it with someone else besides themselves. Thats all Youtube is: sharing it with someone else. Fuck the artists rights, what about my right to enjoy the music that I buy, be it with friends at home with me or idiots across the country. It would be one thing if someone posted an extremely high quality video of themselves dancing to every song on Purple Rain, in sequence, with the video split up into seperate videos that were the exact same length as the songs. But a child dancing to a snippet of Lets Go Crazy? Give me a fuckin' break. If you honestly think thats infringing on anyone's copywrite than you need to stop buying music.....period. And the person's whose copywrite it is needs to stop selling their art and keep it to their fuckin' selves.

One other thing. I know someone who has common sense will post something like "Yeah, its not like someone is SELLING a video of their kid dancing to a Prince song." and then some idiot will say "Yeah, but someone IS making money of the video: Youtube." And then I will say "Remember when record companies WANTED people to play videos? I mean once upon a time there were these TV stations with names like MTV, BET, Much Music, Fuse and VH1 that record companies actually would BEG to play their videos.....FOR FREE!!!!! What a concept! MTV didn't pay WB to play their videos and they damn sure didnt send them a cease and desist letter.

The problem with today's artists is that they have forgotten so much about the industry they work in. The advent of the digital age has made so many artists, for lack of a better word, greedy. They want too much control over their product while forgetting that the music industry has always been a "freebie" industry in order to promote artists. That's one of the problems I have with all of the anti-download nonsense. Before the internet I taped off the radio when I wanted a song I couldnt buy and I was happy as HELL with the quality. Sure, I actually bought Prince records but do you think I bought Spandau Ballet and Tears For Fears? Hell no, I recorded them off the radio. Very few artists (for right or wrong) make lots of money off record sales. Thats the way the industry was designed from the beginning. Records are promotional tools for live shows. But now most of these asses can't play live so they want to get all they can from other means. Records and CD's and tapes are mass produced items. They aren't one-offs like paintings. Stop acting like there are only "one of these in the world". (sorry, I went on a tangent! What was the topic again? lol)
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squirrelgrease said:

I'm not surprised that you would see this as a loss for Prince. I guess you now think Prince owns and controls Universal Music? Now that is interesting. But again I'm not at all suprised considering previous posts left here by you. Maybe you just like to see yourself type "Prince" and "losing" in the same sentence...over...and over again. Prince didn't lose a thing, thank goodness. Very curious you would see it that way...very curious indeed.

Gonzalo1979 said:

this thread and this post are bull-really sad

I do not care who asked to have it pulled, Prince has a habit of having things like that pulled, at the threat of a lawsuit. I had a clip of me singing a lyrically altered version of 'SISTER' to 'La Bamba'!

And I got threaded by WEB SHERIFF and it was taken down by youtube.
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OnlyNDaUsa said:

You know, I can just see you doing that. Did you wear make up and high heels, a rain coat and a string too?

But seriously you did and then you got an email from websherrif?
What was the intent behind your use, how much did you use and did you use any recording or only the lyrics, altered? How did you alter them.

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whos gonna be the first to make a prince background music video now on youtube?

damn it, this was one of the few times i was glad a prince related video was pulled. if only every video where some mother thinks anybody else cares about her annoying baby as much as her was removed from the net.

Tremolina said:

Yeah I got several messages via youtube from the Web Sheriff and emails from youutube saying it was pulled and that they had a request to turn over my contact info. So I sent it to the WS myself. But they pulled the video and then I had to do something to say it was not a violation and youtube would but it back up and then give WS time to file in court. Which I never did.

The song musical 'La Bamba' (off a neighbor's keroikie machine) but lyrically altered 'sister' but I called it "sibling."

I wish I could say I was just drunk (which I was) but I planed it. But it was diffrent enough to lyrically I think I would win.

Paris9748430 said:

Yeah but in this case the lawsuit was against Universal Music...as the title and the article reads...

Baby Video wins lawsuit against Universal Music

Gotcha

Not sure how I feel about the baby video. I wonder if we'll see hundreds more videos like that popping up all over youtube now.
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double posts
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Efan said:

Funniest thing I've read in a long time!!

Thank God Sanity prevailed!