Mindflux said: Philly76 said: I know there are a lot of ppl out there which canĀ“t stop adoring Prince
for the work he did in the early 80s as if there is no other excellent music from him in the 90s and 00s. Indeed! These folk really need to "change the record" - in many ways! I mean, just how many of these patronising threads can one person start? "drown your sorrows, listen to 25 year old music, how good/different was he then?"? Look, most people here know EXACTLY what Prince was like back then! A fair majority of people here were there and listening to him way back when (and when the music had far more impact, because it was so ahead of its time). I doubt anyone needs reminding of this. And, to compare how "hungry" a man is when he's just starting his career and in his early 20s to a man who has a 30-year career behind him and is in his early 50s is just plain dumb! How old are you? If you're middle-aged, how do you compare to yourself as a youngster? I'll bet far less favourably than Prince, that's for sure! Its fine if you only enjoy his music from the 80s, but to repeatedly post threads suggesting we ignore the "travesties" of today and wallow in the past is oddly obsessive and quite pointless. A seriously dumbass reply, what ?, are we not allowed to celebrate past glories now?. Do we not have the right to express our dislikes of any recent output and make perfectly fair and reasonable comparisons?. Silly me, I thought we were all grown ups who can have reasoned and sensible debates rather than being an army of purple robots!. Anway back to my point, he was a genius then and he ain't now - my opinion, deal with it! | |
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ronnwinter said: funkyhead said: In light of recent shocking events!, I took my car for a spin and put on my 'Old Funk' section on my pod consisting of 18 killer trax from the first 5 albums [For You - 1999]. Holy cow, if you need to drown your sorrows and relive the greatness then wack on some of these tracks, the hunger of the man just seeps through the speakers.
My top 3 are: Lady cab driver - a mix of styles .....with purpose and creativity! Head - stripped down and funky. Lets work - has he actually played a bass line as funky as that since? Has anyone noticed how the drumming drove the trax during this period?. Right there with ya dude! Ill go on to add A-U-T-omatic and Something In the Water great shout, video to AUTOmatic cracks me up. | |
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LRC,when u were mine, i wanna be ur lover, head, partyup, i would die 4 u, erotic city!
i loved his performaces from those early days too! leg warmers and bikini briefs! haha is the water warm enough? | |
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For You (The entire Album)
Prince (The entire Album) Dirty Mind (The entire Album) Controversy (The entire Album) 1999 (The entire Album) I'll die in your arms under the cherry moon... | |
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I remember in 1981 when my older sister got the 'Controversy' album.I stayed home from school the next day,just so I could listen to "Private Joy" over and over and over I was hooked on that song! | |
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funkyhead said: Mindflux said: Indeed! These folk really need to "change the record" - in many ways! I mean, just how many of these patronising threads can one person start? "drown your sorrows, listen to 25 year old music, how good/different was he then?"? Look, most people here know EXACTLY what Prince was like back then! A fair majority of people here were there and listening to him way back when (and when the music had far more impact, because it was so ahead of its time). I doubt anyone needs reminding of this. And, to compare how "hungry" a man is when he's just starting his career and in his early 20s to a man who has a 30-year career behind him and is in his early 50s is just plain dumb! How old are you? If you're middle-aged, how do you compare to yourself as a youngster? I'll bet far less favourably than Prince, that's for sure! Its fine if you only enjoy his music from the 80s, but to repeatedly post threads suggesting we ignore the "travesties" of today and wallow in the past is oddly obsessive and quite pointless. A seriously dumbass reply, what ?, are we not allowed to celebrate past glories now?. Do we not have the right to express our dislikes of any recent output and make perfectly fair and reasonable comparisons?. Silly me, I thought we were all grown ups who can have reasoned and sensible debates rather than being an army of purple robots!. Anway back to my point, he was a genius then and he ain't now - my opinion, deal with it! Yes, silly you! Because I dealt with every argument you have put there in my original post. Grown up, reasonable and sensible debates? Is that what you would class this and your other threads as? Maybe if you started an objective thread, you wouldn't get such a response, eh? And the fact you have started multiple threads on exactly the same premise in a short space of time proves that you are not being grown-up or sensible. As I said above "Its fine if you only enjoy his music from the 80s, but to repeatedly post threads suggesting we ignore the "travesties" of today and wallow in the past is oddly obsessive and quite pointless", which negates everything you've said in response. Now, who's the dumbass? ...we have only scratched the surface of what the mind can do...
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Mindflux said: funkyhead said: A seriously dumbass reply, what ?, are we not allowed to celebrate past glories now?. Do we not have the right to express our dislikes of any recent output and make perfectly fair and reasonable comparisons?. Silly me, I thought we were all grown ups who can have reasoned and sensible debates rather than being an army of purple robots!. Anway back to my point, he was a genius then and he ain't now - my opinion, deal with it! Yes, silly you! Because I dealt with every argument you have put there in my original post. Grown up, reasonable and sensible debates? Is that what you would class this and your other threads as? Maybe if you started an objective thread, you wouldn't get such a response, eh? And the fact you have started multiple threads on exactly the same premise in a short space of time proves that you are not being grown-up or sensible. As I said above "Its fine if you only enjoy his music from the 80s, but to repeatedly post threads suggesting we ignore the "travesties" of today and wallow in the past is oddly obsessive and quite pointless", which negates everything you've said in response. Now, who's the dumbass? Hey "Mindflux" don't waste your time ... we entered the air of mediocrity where the only talent of many people is to practice the art of bad review ... some have become real geniuses at this game I'll die in your arms under the cherry moon... | |
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StonedImmaculate said: Side 2 of "Controversy" is his most underappreciated work from that 5 album era.
I agree. | |
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saafiir said: Mindflux said: Yes, silly you! Because I dealt with every argument you have put there in my original post. Grown up, reasonable and sensible debates? Is that what you would class this and your other threads as? Maybe if you started an objective thread, you wouldn't get such a response, eh? And the fact you have started multiple threads on exactly the same premise in a short space of time proves that you are not being grown-up or sensible. As I said above "Its fine if you only enjoy his music from the 80s, but to repeatedly post threads suggesting we ignore the "travesties" of today and wallow in the past is oddly obsessive and quite pointless", which negates everything you've said in response. Now, who's the dumbass? Hey "Mindflux" don't waste your time ... we entered the air of mediocrity where the only talent of many people is to practice the art of bad review ... some have become real geniuses at this game with the greatest of respect neither of you are qualified enough nor know me well enough to understand how much I and many others feel about P. So for the record I totally love the man [if you were unfortunate enough to stand next to me at the 02 aftershows you will know that!]. That I said I have never been blinded by my love be it P or anyone else in my life, therefore in life one needs to keep an open and balanced view. In the case of P you know my views about the last 2 releases i.e. you really can't polish a turd!, the LF project? = LF cd is the best he has done in years but MPLS sound is mostly [IMHO] second rate, uninspired dross. We all know that a 50 year old who is 30 years into a career will never be as hungry BUT when said artist puts himself out there as being great and criticising current music then he'd better be damned sure that he backs up such claims with quality music.It also shows how lazy he is as a listener when compared to someone like Bowie who seems to put in the effort to search for young , vibrant and original bands to reference. Likewise a lot of us on here and I hope you too will always be searching for new music to liste to, alas though the more I listen to new artists every year the more irrelavant and dated P sounds. Like many so called legends he's coasting, live I still think he is untouchable, but on record it ain't happening. As to why I stick around?, well believe me it's more in hope that an artist I have invested a huge amount of time in [since 83] and money in still has it in him. For whatever reason he seems to be choosing NOT to use his talents wisely [again IMHO] and I am convinced that in time he will come full circle. I could ramble on but there really is no harm in celebrating the past. | |
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aazzaabb said: The Dirty Mind album is amazing.I think Uptown is my favourite.
My favorite is "Head" | |
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funkyhead said: saafiir said: Hey "Mindflux" don't waste your time ... we entered the air of mediocrity where the only talent of many people is to practice the art of bad review ... some have become real geniuses at this game with the greatest of respect neither of you are qualified enough nor know me well enough to understand how much I and many others feel about P. So for the record I totally love the man [if you were unfortunate enough to stand next to me at the 02 aftershows you will know that!]. That I said I have never been blinded by my love be it P or anyone else in my life, therefore in life one needs to keep an open and balanced view. In the case of P you know my views about the last 2 releases i.e. you really can't polish a turd!, the LF project? = LF cd is the best he has done in years but MPLS sound is mostly [IMHO] second rate, uninspired dross. We all know that a 50 year old who is 30 years into a career will never be as hungry BUT when said artist puts himself out there as being great and criticising current music then he'd better be damned sure that he backs up such claims with quality music.It also shows how lazy he is as a listener when compared to someone like Bowie who seems to put in the effort to search for young , vibrant and original bands to reference. Likewise a lot of us on here and I hope you too will always be searching for new music to liste to, alas though the more I listen to new artists every year the more irrelavant and dated P sounds. Like many so called legends he's coasting, live I still think he is untouchable, but on record it ain't happening. As to why I stick around?, well believe me it's more in hope that an artist I have invested a huge amount of time in [since 83] and money in still has it in him. For whatever reason he seems to be choosing NOT to use his talents wisely [again IMHO] and I am convinced that in time he will come full circle. I could ramble on but there really is no harm in celebrating the past. No, that's cool.....and thanks for substantiating your position. I may well have been stood next to you at an O2 aftershow.....I was at 5 of them myself For the record, I have a special love for his earlier work, he was making innovative, ground-breaking music back then - I still rate the album run from 1999 to Lovesexy as the most stunning and accomplished set of consecutive releases by any artist. As with most artists, the innovation aspect started to decline over time (but given the volume of work produced, we ought to cut him some slack there!), but his stylistic growth, studio acumen and songwriting craft all continued to mature and improve. Why do I stick around? Well, its certainly not about him breaking any new musical barriers these days, but I still find the music to be uniquely Prince and, in most cases, aspects of it are interesting enough to keep me listening to him. I'm a music producer myself and there are still moments in his present recordings where I and other musician's jaws drop and hear something clever and innovative in his production. I'm certainly NOT saying that only musicians will recognise where some of the greatness is in his current work, I'm just defining my point of view as to where some of the interest still lies with me. I suppose you could say I used to be in awe of the music he was making, how radicle and fresh it was - whereas, now I'm more in awe of how he's making it, rather than what he is making. I find my musical "envelope-pushing" elsewhere these days (Squarepusher, for example). I completely get where you're at though mate and its all good too. ...we have only scratched the surface of what the mind can do...
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^ Squarepusher
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saafiir said: ^ Squarepusher
You know it ...we have only scratched the surface of what the mind can do...
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He was a badass no doubt, but think about who the popular influences where at the time. Cameo, Slave, Parliament... that was just a funky time period. | |
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almost all of them | |
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all of them.... aka ChristinaS | |
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