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Reply #30 posted 03/01/10 8:35pm

BlackandRising

Genesia said:

BlackandRising said:



there you go again. What does it matter that I don't play for the vikings? The same that it doesn't matter that you used to play to various fight songs, the implication being that your opinion is more correct than another. It's a song, and you apparently can't comprehend that, given your diatribe about Prince playing it and so on and so forth. And then you go on to say you didn't even hear the whole thing. kinda like critiquing a book after reading the first chapter.

Again, simple is a matter of perspective. You may like simple things as maybe that's what you can process, but I have yet to read a book that laid out a formula for fight songs with regard to what would make a crowd react.


Oh, I just looooove when peoples' arguments are so weak, they have to resort to ad hominem attacks. lol


good lord, I'm not arguing. You simply do not dictate what is or isn't this or that. It's telling that you feel the need to keep expressing your dislike after I asked for a specific response to my post. Most people secure in their position don't feel the need to keep pushing it, they make their point and move on. You simply seem like one of the many others here who seem to simply follow the crowd. So if you feel the need to press the issue, more power to you.
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Reply #31 posted 03/01/10 8:40pm

BlackandRising

Brofie said:

BlackandRising said:

And I actually like it. I'd like to hear a few musicians or peopel versed in music theory weigh in on the song. It's not something I'd hear and run to the dance floor for, but it's definitely interesting, in the sense that, for instance, "Strays Of The World" is interesting.

After seeing all of the initial reviews, I decided to wait and forget about what I read until listening to it in it's entirety.


The first time I heard it, I had already been bombarded with the negative reviews. On the first listen, I instantly thought to myself that the average pop music fan who wants something like Lets Go Crazy for an American football fight song is simply not going to get this at all. The musical pallette of the average American simply inst broad enough to encompass what they think Prince is (Purple Rain, 1999, Littel Red Corvette) AND this side of Prince. That is no slight to them - they only know what they are fed by maninstream media. However, I expected at least a few hardcore fans who are well versed in the breadth and depth of Prince's genius would have a greater capacity to appreciate the song. It seems I overestimated them. I think it is one of the better songs that Prince has crafted in the last few years.


I think this every time I read reviews now. I think it is a matter of people being spoon fed a specific diet to the point that that is all the know. I think there are a few fans out there that are well versed with a greater capacity to appreciate something other than what they expect. There are usually a few here which is why I started this thread, but you see where that has gone.
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Reply #32 posted 03/01/10 8:41pm

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BlackandRising said:

Genesia said:



Oh, I just looooove when peoples' arguments are so weak, they have to resort to ad hominem attacks. lol


good lord, I'm not arguing. You simply do not dictate what is or isn't this or that. It's telling that you feel the need to keep expressing your dislike after I asked for a specific response to my post. Most people secure in their position don't feel the need to keep pushing it, they make their point and move on. You simply seem like one of the many others here who seem to simply follow the crowd. So if you feel the need to press the issue, more power to you.


No, you aren't arguing. That's my point. You'd rather just hurl insults.

And I didn't dictate anything. (Like I have that power.) I expressed an opinion. Just like you did. Only I did it without getting nasty or personal about it. Unlike you.
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Reply #33 posted 03/01/10 8:43pm

BlackandRising

Genesia said:

BlackandRising said:



good lord, I'm not arguing. You simply do not dictate what is or isn't this or that. It's telling that you feel the need to keep expressing your dislike after I asked for a specific response to my post. Most people secure in their position don't feel the need to keep pushing it, they make their point and move on. You simply seem like one of the many others here who seem to simply follow the crowd. So if you feel the need to press the issue, more power to you.


No, you aren't arguing. That's my point. You'd rather just hurl insults.

And I didn't dictate anything. (Like I have that power.) I expressed an opinion. Just like you did. Only I did it without getting nasty or personal about it. Unlike you.

lol yea u did. you've been dictating since your first post here. And where is my insult? I am simply voicing my opinion, just as you are, albeit unsolicited. this is exactly what I try to avoid when coming here, but it seems to be unavoidable.
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Reply #34 posted 03/01/10 8:47pm

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BlackandRising said:

Genesia said:



No, you aren't arguing. That's my point. You'd rather just hurl insults.

And I didn't dictate anything. (Like I have that power.) I expressed an opinion. Just like you did. Only I did it without getting nasty or personal about it. Unlike you.

lol yea u did. you've been dictating since your first post here. And where is my insult? I am simply voicing my opinion, just as you are, albeit unsolicited. this is exactly what I try to avoid when coming here, but it seems to be unavoidable.


You called me simple. If you don't think that's insulting, I guess we know what that makes you.

And if you can't avoid whatever "this" is when you come here, perhaps you should examine the common denominator.
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Reply #35 posted 03/01/10 8:51pm

BlackandRising

Genesia said:

BlackandRising said:


lol yea u did. you've been dictating since your first post here. And where is my insult? I am simply voicing my opinion, just as you are, albeit unsolicited. this is exactly what I try to avoid when coming here, but it seems to be unavoidable.


You called me simple. If you don't think that's insulting, I guess we know what that makes you.

And if you can't avoid whatever "this" is when you come here, perhaps you should examine the common denominator.


no, actually I said "you may like simple things". If you internalize that to mean that someone is calling you simple, then, that is an issue you have to deal with.
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Reply #36 posted 03/02/10 11:19am

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I still haven't heard the song!!! dancing jig


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Reply #37 posted 03/02/10 11:33am

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I am not into fight songs but I went to a high school whos colors are purple and gold. They should use this song as there new fight song (cause Prince
's fight song is a lot cooler). cool
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Reply #38 posted 03/02/10 11:54am

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kittylarue2 said:

I am not into fight songs but I went to a high school whos colors are purple and gold. They should use this song as there new fight song (cause Prince
's fight song is a lot cooler). cool


It is a cool fight song. I like it, it's fun.
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Reply #39 posted 03/02/10 11:56am

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BlackandRising said:

And I actually like it. I'd like to hear a few musicians or peopel versed in music theory weigh in on the song. It's not something I'd hear and run to the dance floor for, but it's definitely interesting, in the sense that, for instance, "Strays Of The World" is interesting.

After seeing all of the initial reviews, I decided to wait and forget about what I read until listening to it in it's entirety.


Your post is like a breath of fresh air. Nice razz It was getting so stifling stinky in here razz

This song is meant for tons of fans to join arms and sway from side to side singing their team on. For that as a target it reaches it goal. It's an easy tune for people to learn. They'll probably cut some words and make a short verse with the common chorus ending in the "The name of the Purple and Gold."

We are the Champions, Queen's famous "football" song here in EU, sung by thousands when a team wins, is in essence a very simple tune to play on the piano. It's also slow and easy to pick up vocally and sing.

Prince has just invented a new one. In a few years when people have learnt it, the fans will be chanting the song and it will become their trademark.
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Reply #40 posted 03/02/10 12:10pm

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This song will not become one of my favorites, but I like it for two reasons.

It is pure melody, something we haven't seen much of from Prince, especially lately.

It is nothing like anything he's ever done before, and he put himself out there once again completely in the face of peoples' expectations.
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Reply #41 posted 03/02/10 4:05pm

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NDRU said:

This song will not become one of my favorites, but I like it for two reasons.

It is pure melody, something we haven't seen much of from Prince, especially lately.

It is nothing like anything he's ever done before, and he put himself out there once again completely in the face of peoples' expectations.



If you know enough of Prince's music, you know the second reason is flat out wrong.
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Reply #42 posted 03/02/10 4:28pm

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Brofie said:

NDRU said:

This song will not become one of my favorites, but I like it for two reasons.

It is pure melody, something we haven't seen much of from Prince, especially lately.

It is nothing like anything he's ever done before, and he put himself out there once again completely in the face of peoples' expectations.



If you know enough of Prince's music, you know the second reason is flat out wrong.


I didn't say there were none, jeez. You can't even compliment a guy without being told it's not complimentary enough?
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Reply #43 posted 03/02/10 6:23pm

BlackandRising

Bohemian67 said:

BlackandRising said:

And I actually like it. I'd like to hear a few musicians or peopel versed in music theory weigh in on the song. It's not something I'd hear and run to the dance floor for, but it's definitely interesting, in the sense that, for instance, "Strays Of The World" is interesting.

After seeing all of the initial reviews, I decided to wait and forget about what I read until listening to it in it's entirety.


Your post is like a breath of fresh air. Nice razz It was getting so stifling stinky in here razz

This song is meant for tons of fans to join arms and sway from side to side singing their team on. For that as a target it reaches it goal. It's an easy tune for people to learn. They'll probably cut some words and make a short verse with the common chorus ending in the "The name of the Purple and Gold."

We are the Champions, Queen's famous "football" song here in EU, sung by thousands when a team wins, is in essence a very simple tune to play on the piano. It's also slow and easy to pick up vocally and sing.

Prince has just invented a new one. In a few years when people have learnt it, the fans will be chanting the song and it will become their trademark.


I hear ya. This can be a stifling place.
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Reply #44 posted 03/02/10 9:04pm

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BlackandRising said:

NDRU said:

If you watched the Closing Ceremonies last night and saw the guy who sang the official Olympic song, you can see where he was coming from.

Cheesy, maybe, but P&G is no different from many other songs in that style.


Exactly. Given that it was advertised as a "fight song" I wasn't surprised when I heard it. But I definitely like his take on a "fight song" as it were.



If I was a player, this "fight song" wouldn't inspire me to fight. It's more of a "lay down and die" song.
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Reply #45 posted 03/02/10 9:05pm

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Vendetta1 said:

I still haven't heard the song!!! dancing jig



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Reply #46 posted 03/02/10 10:12pm

Vendetta1

errant said:

Vendetta1 said:

I still haven't heard the song!!! dancing jig



i hate you lol
razz
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Reply #47 posted 03/02/10 10:16pm

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Vendetta1 said:

errant said:




i hate you lol
razz


Oh give it time...


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Reply #48 posted 03/02/10 10:17pm

Vendetta1

Nikademus said:

Vendetta1 said:

razz


Oh give it time...


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Reply #49 posted 03/02/10 10:21pm

Nikademus

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Vendetta1 said:

Nikademus said:



Oh give it time...


When you least expect it...lurking
i am going to kill you. falloff


Me? batting eyes
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Reply #50 posted 03/02/10 10:26pm

Vendetta1

Nikademus said:

Vendetta1 said:

i am going to kill you. falloff


Me? batting eyes
yes. batting eyes
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Reply #51 posted 03/02/10 10:49pm

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Vendetta1 said:

Nikademus said:



Me? batting eyes
yes. batting eyes



hmmm
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Reply #52 posted 03/02/10 10:54pm

Vendetta1

Nikademus said:

Vendetta1 said:

yes. batting eyes



hmmm
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Reply #53 posted 03/03/10 10:18am

NDRU

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errant said:

BlackandRising said:



Exactly. Given that it was advertised as a "fight song" I wasn't surprised when I heard it. But I definitely like his take on a "fight song" as it were.



If I was a player, this "fight song" wouldn't inspire me to fight. It's more of a "lay down and die" song.


just like the olympians were probably bored as the opera singer sang the olympic song, but it doesn't make it a bad song, just an outdated concept, maybe
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Reply #54 posted 03/03/10 10:30am

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i'm not a fan of the song. it sounds forced and contrived.
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Reply #55 posted 03/03/10 11:12am

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I think if this wasn't a "fight" song for a
sports team and was just some odd little Prince song tucked in an album somewhere, it may have been ok. I dunno. Like Wedding Feast. I will admit when I first heard it I was like... eek
We got Wedding Feast, Graffiti Bridge, Arms of Orion,...and now we have this. lol
I posted over here as well because this thread was a bit more...open minded. Just saying.
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Reply #56 posted 03/03/10 12:24pm

BlackandRising

Bfunkthe1 said:

I think if this wasn't a "fight" song for a
sports team and was just some odd little Prince song tucked in an album somewhere, it may have been ok. I dunno. Like Wedding Feast. I will admit when I first heard it I was like... eek
We got Wedding Feast, Graffiti Bridge, Arms of Orion,...and now we have this. lol
I posted over here as well because this thread was a bit more...open minded. Just saying.


Same here...the first few seconds, I was like, wtf? But the more I heard, the more interesting I thought it was.

And yes to the open-minded thing as well. I used to read the org all the time, but lately it's just more of the same. Glad to see some of the responses on this one though.
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Reply #57 posted 03/03/10 12:31pm

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It's a good song - not great and not bad.
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