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Thread started 03/04/10 10:52pm

sro100

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"Diamonds and Pearls" song question

So, I've only heard this song for 20 years and I still have the same question when I hear it:

WTF, is up with "would u be a happy BOY OR A GIRL?"

Who is he singing this to?? Doesn't he know?

Or,if the answer is Rosie is singing to a boy; it still doesn't really make any sense; Or is it just supposed to be a generic song that can't even make up it's mind who is the object of affection?

To this day I still don't really understand the intention.

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Reply #1 posted 03/04/10 11:06pm

xlr8r

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sro100 said:

So, I've only heard this song for 20 years and I still have the same question when I hear it:

WTF, is up with "would u be a happy BOY OR A GIRL?"

Who is he singing this to?? Doesn't he know?

Or,if the answer is Rosie is singing to a boy; it still doesn't really make any sense; Or is it just supposed to be a generic song that can't even make up it's mind who is the object of affection?

To this day I still don't really understand the intention.

???


What he is offering D&P is a metaphor for something valuable in the vein like universal love or empathy etc. Trying to be more of an omipotent giver than just giving a "lover" specifically something of material value so the gender would be of no consequence?
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Reply #2 posted 03/05/10 1:48am

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xlr8r said:

sro100 said:

So, I've only heard this song for 20 years and I still have the same question when I hear it:

WTF, is up with "would u be a happy BOY OR A GIRL?"

Who is he singing this to?? Doesn't he know?

Or,if the answer is Rosie is singing to a boy; it still doesn't really make any sense; Or is it just supposed to be a generic song that can't even make up it's mind who is the object of affection?

To this day I still don't really understand the intention.

???


What he is offering D&P is a metaphor for something valuable in the vein like universal love or empathy etc. Trying to be more of an omipotent giver than just giving a "lover" specifically something of material value so the gender would be of no consequence?


Really? What I get from it was that he was struggling for a rhyme. It feels rushed and unfinished in some ways, and I like it all the more for it.
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Reply #3 posted 03/05/10 1:55am

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imo he's just adressing the "boy or girl" question to all of us no matter gender.....

I think I agree that Prince very often is singing about "Universal love".

imo... wink
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Reply #4 posted 03/05/10 2:01am

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thedance said:

imo he's just adressing the "boy or girl" question to all of us no matter gender.....

I think I agree that Prince very often is singing about "Universal love".

imo... wink


tree hugger!

razz
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Reply #5 posted 03/05/10 2:19am

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erik319 said:

xlr8r said:



What he is offering D&P is a metaphor for something valuable in the vein like universal love or empathy etc. Trying to be more of an omipotent giver than just giving a "lover" specifically something of material value so the gender would be of no consequence?


Really? What I get from it was that he was struggling for a rhyme. It feels rushed and unfinished in some ways, and I like it all the more for it.



I agree!!
He was a sylable short of completing his sentence.
Fuck the funk - it's time to ditch the worn-out Vegas horns fills, pick up the geee-tar and finally ROCK THE MUTHA-FUCKER!! He hinted at this on Chaos, now it's time to step up and fully DELIVER!!
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Reply #6 posted 03/05/10 2:30am

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Yeah, the rushed rhyme explanation is a very likely one.

It's "a happy boy or a girl", because he and Rosie sing it together. I could be about "universal love" as well, although many of the other lines on the song sound more like something from a more typical romantic love song..

Having said that, The Diamonds & Pearls -era did have several strong innuendos of bisexuality. There was the assless pants / faked homosexual gang rape -incident at the MTV awards. Willing & Able also contains the line, "there's some kings in my deck and a queen or two". Supposedly he's "just celebrating his talent" on that one. He must have been perfectly aware that they can be read in several ways though.
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Reply #7 posted 03/05/10 4:19am

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erik319 said:

thedance said:

imo he's just adressing the "boy or girl" question to all of us no matter gender.....

I think I agree that Prince very often is singing about "Universal love".

imo... wink


tree hugger!

razz

why does talking about universal love mean a person is a tree hugger? rolleyes
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Reply #8 posted 03/05/10 4:38am

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cinnamongal said:

erik319 said:



tree hugger!

razz

why does talking about universal love mean a person is a tree hugger? rolleyes
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We have this thing called humour on planet Earth. That was an example of it, between myself & thedance.
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Reply #9 posted 03/05/10 4:40am

SoulAlive

I always hated that lyric: "would you be a happy boy or a girl" disbelief

Why would he even suggest giving diamonds and pearls to a boy?! lol
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Reply #10 posted 03/05/10 4:42am

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SoulAlive said:

I always hated that lyric: "would you be a happy boy or a girl" disbelief

Why would he even suggest giving diamonds and pearls to a boy?! lol


cos 'Playstation & beer' would have been an odd song name? smile
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Reply #11 posted 03/05/10 4:45am

novabrkr

I'm so going to record a mock-up version called "Playstation & Beer"
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Reply #12 posted 03/05/10 4:59am

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Hang on, maybe it's a test to make sure that whoever he's chatting up is definately a female.

A real girl would definately say 'a happy girl', whereas a sneaky faker might say the wrong answer.
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Reply #13 posted 03/05/10 6:02am

SoulAlive

on the same album,he also says "I'm good to cream every boy and girl" lol
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Reply #14 posted 03/05/10 6:41am

novabrkr

Oh yeah, forgot about that one.

Yeah, no way was he trying to imply anything bisexual with that one.
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Reply #15 posted 03/05/10 6:47am

MrGravyLumps

Eric 319 - Nothing to do with this topic mate, but buying "segue" for £1 and getting four seconds of silence in return?? Ha ha, oh no! Does it help that it's there for a moment of respect for Miles Davis? Thought so, wouldn't help me either. biggrin
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Reply #16 posted 03/05/10 7:24am

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MrGravyLumps said:

Eric 319 - Nothing to do with this topic mate, but buying "segue" for £1 and getting four seconds of silence in return?? Ha ha, oh no! Does it help that it's there for a moment of respect for Miles Davis? Thought so, wouldn't help me either. biggrin


Hehe, didn't really happen to me, happened to a mate of mine a while back, but I found it that funny that I thought i'd steal it as a sig wink

Same bloke tried to put a track on the jukebox back in 1993, he wanted Sacrifice of Victor and got that odd segue phone conversation instead. That went down really well in our local pub, I can tell you.

Erik
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Reply #17 posted 03/05/10 7:26am

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novabrkr said:

Oh yeah, forgot about that one.

Yeah, no way was he trying to imply anything bisexual with that one.


He was ticking all the boxes he could back then. Now he abstains from voting.
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Reply #18 posted 03/05/10 9:06am

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SoulAlive said:

I always hated that lyric: "would you be a happy boy or a girl" disbelief

Why would he even suggest giving diamonds and pearls to a boy?! lol



Well he sang it (the first live presentation?) at the Special Olympics event so again I think its something universal love wise. Almost like I Would Die 4 U (and even that felt somewhat emotionally to a woman imo though)
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Reply #19 posted 03/06/10 12:00pm

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erik319 said:

MrGravyLumps said:

Eric 319 - Nothing to do with this topic mate, but buying "segue" for £1 and getting four seconds of silence in return?? Ha ha, oh no! Does it help that it's there for a moment of respect for Miles Davis? Thought so, wouldn't help me either. biggrin


Hehe, didn't really happen to me, happened to a mate of mine a while back, but I found it that funny that I thought i'd steal it as a sig wink

Same bloke tried to put a track on the jukebox back in 1993, he wanted Sacrifice of Victor and got that odd segue phone conversation instead. That went down really well in our local pub, I can tell you.

Erik



Ha ha, I can imagine it didn't!
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Reply #20 posted 03/06/10 12:12pm

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thedance said:

imo he's just adressing the "boy or girl" question to all of us no matter gender.....

I think I agree that Prince very often is singing about "Universal love".

imo... wink



nod That's pretty much what I got from it. Kinda lame but whatev.
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Reply #21 posted 03/06/10 12:17pm

NelsonR

sro100 said:

So, I've only heard this song for 20 years and I still have the same question when I hear it:

WTF, is up with "would u be a happy BOY OR A GIRL?"

Who is he singing this to?? Doesn't he know?

Or,if the answer is Rosie is singing to a boy; it still doesn't really make any sense; Or is it just supposed to be a generic song that can't even make up it's mind who is the object of affection?

To this day I still don't really understand the intention.

???


boys/girls as in all people

as brother bob marley sang:

the biggest man was once a baby
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Reply #22 posted 03/06/10 12:26pm

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This was the first track I heard off D&P on the radio (Gett Off was released way earlier as an independent single as afar as I was concerned).

It was the first time I was disappointed and even turned off by the first airing of a P song from a new album. Still don't like it, never have.

And I always felt that main melody part was a repeat of Romance 1600 (which I prefer).
"We've never been able to pull off a funk number"

"That's becuase we're soulless auttomatons"
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Reply #23 posted 03/06/10 1:09pm

NONSENSE

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Reply #24 posted 03/06/10 10:04pm

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This is just an idea.. What if this song is really about the things that are about to happen? Is he talking to Warners between the lines?

I mean, let's look at the lyrics for a second.

"If I gave you diamonds and pearls, would you be a happy boy or a girl? If I could I would give you the words, all I can do is just offer you my love."

- What is he saying? If he gave them hits, would they be happy? All he can offer them though, is the truth, which means, his art. He's not prepared to sell out. And the question of "boy or girl..." Perhaps Warner executives are not all men? (Or boys, but boy and girl rhymes better to pearls)
But then again, Mo Ostin will become a very important figure later in life. This was probably not the case yet at this point.

"Which one of us is right, if we always fight? Why can't we just let love decide? Am I the weaker man because I understand that love must be the masterplan?"

- I interpret this as in his opinion, let's just give it to fans to decide, which means, Prince is calling for Warner to accept his way of working because his fans do. It's all about music, honest music. At this point he's probably even thinking of ways to distribute his stuff himself in the future.

"There will come a time..." etc etc. Prince appears to be an optimist who thinks that eventually, everything is gonna be alright after all. He has a clear conscious and his trust in God is undeniable.


That's it, this is just my opinion. I'm sure this song has a different meaning to all of us, which is kind of the point in discussing interesting music and lyrics, isn't it?
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Reply #25 posted 03/07/10 12:43am

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Mr Gravy, I dig it.
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Reply #26 posted 03/07/10 10:07am

Tame

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God. Love. One Love 4 All of Us.

Diamonds and Pearls can be viewed as "Clarity and Wisdom." cool
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Reply #27 posted 03/07/10 10:10am

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MrGravyLumps said:

This is just an idea.. What if this song is really about the things that are about to happen? Is he talking to Warners between the lines?

I mean, let's look at the lyrics for a second.

"If I gave you diamonds and pearls, would you be a happy boy or a girl? If I could I would give you the words, all I can do is just offer you my love."

- What is he saying? If he gave them hits, would they be happy? All he can offer them though, is the truth, which means, his art. He's not prepared to sell out. And the question of "boy or girl..." Perhaps Warner executives are not all men? (Or boys, but boy and girl rhymes better to pearls)
But then again, Mo Ostin will become a very important figure later in life. This was probably not the case yet at this point.

"Which one of us is right, if we always fight? Why can't we just let love decide? Am I the weaker man because I understand that love must be the masterplan?"

- I interpret this as in his opinion, let's just give it to fans to decide, which means, Prince is calling for Warner to accept his way of working because his fans do. It's all about music, honest music. At this point he's probably even thinking of ways to distribute his stuff himself in the future.

"There will come a time..." etc etc. Prince appears to be an optimist who thinks that eventually, everything is gonna be alright after all. He has a clear conscious and his trust in God is undeniable.


That's it, this is just my opinion. I'm sure this song has a different meaning to all of us, which is kind of the point in discussing interesting music and lyrics, isn't it?



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