HatrinaHaterwitz said: maria1999 said: To Hatrina Haterwitz and other members of Prince.org.
I'm sorry. I was wrong to judge you. I now realize how careless I've been. Please forgive me for my ignorance in all things Prince. I will never bother you with my opinions again. But, I refuse to be discounted as a Prince novice. I've been listening to Prince's music for nearly twenty years. And I will not be disrespected by anyone. When I joined this site, I thought I was amongst like-minded Prince fans. I didn't know the extent that you guys go to to get your points across. I have a right to my opinion and you have a right to respond. That's not my problem with this site. I welcome your opinion, it just appears that you don't value mines. I didn't mean to "lecture" anyone. I was asked to explain my comment and I thought I did. As for cussing, that's me getting defensive. Just as you do when you feel that your views are under attack. We're all adults here, why must we be sooo vicious? I'm really not sure if you are being sarcastic or not but it makes me no difference, one way or the other. I've read and reread this thread, no one has discounted you as a novice, for the most part they just didn't agree with you BUT they actually took it easy on you. If you want respect around here, you have to show up with some yourself because you have no idea just how vicious this place can get! You are as welcome to your opinion as everyone else here is. but if you are expecting it to be valued...you are so in the wrong damn place! And for God's sake, get your facts right or Ernest is trained to dismember. I get so much joy out of reading one of Squirrelgrease's put downs, Nuveaudance's jokes and Ernest's deadpan humour. If it weren't for them, I'd be outahere. Erik blah blah blah | |
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maria1999 said: To Hatrina Haterwitz and other members of Prince.org.
I'm sorry. I was wrong to judge you. I now realize how careless I've been. Please forgive me for my ignorance in all things Prince. I will never bother you with my opinions again. But, I refuse to be discounted as a Prince novice. I've been listening to Prince's music for nearly twenty years. And I will not be disrespected by anyone. When I joined this site, I thought I was amongst like-minded Prince fans. I didn't know the extent that you guys go to to get your points across. I have a right to my opinion and you have a right to respond. That's not my problem with this site. I welcome your opinion, it just appears that you don't value mines. I didn't mean to "lecture" anyone. I was asked to explain my comment and I thought I did. As for cussing, that's me getting defensive. Just as you do when you feel that your views are under attack. We're all adults here, why must we be sooo vicious? Well, just having read this thread from start to finish...what did you expect? You opened it up, telling the readers that you only wanted answers in a certain way, you tried define your vision of a "fan" as a fact and then you threw a little hissy fit when you didn't like the answers. I think you should take a look at your writing style before you dismiss the responses you received. . | |
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HatrinaHaterwitz said: maria1999 said: To Hatrina Haterwitz and other members of Prince.org.
I'm sorry. I was wrong to judge you. I now realize how careless I've been. Please forgive me for my ignorance in all things Prince. I will never bother you with my opinions again. But, I refuse to be discounted as a Prince novice. I've been listening to Prince's music for nearly twenty years. And I will not be disrespected by anyone. When I joined this site, I thought I was amongst like-minded Prince fans. I didn't know the extent that you guys go to to get your points across. I have a right to my opinion and you have a right to respond. That's not my problem with this site. I welcome your opinion, it just appears that you don't value mines. I didn't mean to "lecture" anyone. I was asked to explain my comment and I thought I did. As for cussing, that's me getting defensive. Just as you do when you feel that your views are under attack. We're all adults here, why must we be sooo vicious? I'm really not sure if you are being sarcastic or not but it makes me no difference, one way or the other. I've read and reread this thread, no one has discounted you as a novice, for the most part they just didn't agree with you BUT they actually took it easy on you. If you want respect around here, you have to show up with some yourself because you have no idea just how vicious this place can get! You are as welcome to your opinion as everyone else here is. but if you are expecting it to be valued...you are so in the wrong damn place! That's the truth. "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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citrus said: Mindflux said: Yes, dont you just love it when he bats his eyes I'm more in to his fingers stroking the fretboard ...we have only scratched the surface of what the mind can do...
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Mindflux said: citrus said: dont you just love it when he bats his eyes I'm more in to his fingers stroking the fretboard Is that a euphemism? Erik blah blah blah | |
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erik319 said: Mindflux said: I'm more in to his fingers stroking the fretboard Is that a euphemism? Erik Is Erik?! ...we have only scratched the surface of what the mind can do...
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Mindflux said: erik319 said: Is that a euphemism? Erik Is Erik?! Off topic, but "Erik" has got a great meaning on Urban Dictionary. It made me so proud to be one Erik blah blah blah | |
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BartVanHemelen said: maria1999 said: Is it that Prince is only "loved" when he is doing what's expected of him by his fans?
Oh, and by the way: "fair weather fans"? I do not think it means what you think it means. Hint: http://www.urbandictionar...eather+fan A fair weather friend is someone who is only around when times are good. Also, this thread wasn't about insulting fans. I just said that we should be more supportive. Maybe accepting was a better word. Remember I am a fan, too. It doesn't make much sense for me to insult myself,does it? | |
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maria1999 said: BartVanHemelen said: Oh, and by the way: "fair weather fans"? I do not think it means what you think it means. Hint: http://www.urbandictionar...eather+fan A fair weather friend is someone who is only around when times are good. Also, this thread wasn't about insulting fans. I just said that we should be more supportive. Maybe accepting was a better word. Remember I am a fan, too. It doesn't make much sense for me to insult myself,does it? | |
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For those who still want to be critical after I had apologized.
OK, I got it!!!! You are fans of Prince. It's not that you are fair weather fans or bandwagon jumpers, but you complain about his choices because you're upset with what he's giving you right now. When Prince (the musician , not the person) returns to do what you have grown to love (I know I said I wouldn't use that word, but it fits here) him for then all will be right in Prince.org world. Forgive me, for not seeing that everyone grieves differently. | |
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maria1999 said: For those who still want to be critical after I had apologized.
OK, I got it!!!! You are fans of Prince. It's not that you are fair weather fans or bandwagon jumpers, but you complain about his choices because you're upset with what he's giving you right now. When Prince (the musician , not the person) returns to do what you have grown to love (I know I said I wouldn't use that word, but it fits here) him for then all will be right in Prince.org world. Forgive me, for not seeing that everyone grieves differently. Whatever our issues, hangups or grief is with Prince, it really has nothing to do with you. So why are you being so obstinate with your silly ass theories, if your intent is not provocation? I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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maria1999 said: For those who still want to be critical after I had apologized.
nah you don't get it and to try to get you and some others here to understand is an exercise in futility.
OK, I got it!!!! You are fans of Prince. It's not that you are fair weather fans or bandwagon jumpers, but you complain about his choices because you're upset with what he's giving you right now. When Prince (the musician , not the person) returns to do what you have grown to love (I know I said I wouldn't use that word, but it fits here) him for then all will be right in Prince.org world. Forgive me, for not seeing that everyone grieves differently. Complaining about complainers. That never gets old. | |
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Vendetta1 said: maria1999 said: For those who still want to be critical after I had apologized.
nah you don't get it and to try to get you and some others here to understand is an exercise in futility.
OK, I got it!!!! You are fans of Prince. It's not that you are fair weather fans or bandwagon jumpers, but you complain about his choices because you're upset with what he's giving you right now. When Prince (the musician , not the person) returns to do what you have grown to love (I know I said I wouldn't use that word, but it fits here) him for then all will be right in Prince.org world. Forgive me, for not seeing that everyone grieves differently. Complaining about complainers. That never gets old. Instead of leaving these comments, tell me what is it that I don't get. Don't think you've made some grandiose statement by what you'd said above. What never gets old is that no matter what you do or no matter what you say, it's pointless is trying to explain yourself when you are dealing with stubborn, hateful people. Let's drop this,until you can fully answer the question of what I don't get. Or maybe we can just stop going back and forth with how we feel and get on to more important things...like maybe peace on earth and good will towards men. What I truly get is that I am not one of the priviledged few that are allowed to make what is considered by you....pointess comments. Every other thread on here could be considered pointless. Or am I wrong to have an opinion on that too? Is this becoming a personal attack or our we still attacking my statements? No better yet.you don't own me any explanation and I'll gladly return the favor. Anything you post to this thread beyond this is only wasting your time,because am so done checking replies. | |
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l think everyone love prince unconditionally otherwise u wouldnt be here
4 the haters lm so sure u do love prince deep down unconditionally | |
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Mindflux said: citrus said: dont you just love it when he bats his eyes I'm more in to his fingers stroking the fretboard he strokes it to the east the strokes it the west he strokes it to the woman that he loves best strokin 2039 all treasures retrieved | |
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citrus said: Mindflux said: I'm more in to his fingers stroking the fretboard he strokes it to the east the strokes it the west he strokes it to the woman that he loves best strokin thts funny.... how strange to know l had someone a mystery tht came and enter my room strokin my damn legs.... now l wonder who tht myster was oh man how l love tht strokin it was sooooo beautiful | |
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erik319 said: BartVanHemelen said: Oh, and by the way: "fair weather fans"? I do not think it means what you think it means. Hint: http://www.urbandictionar...eather+fan Really? I thought that's exactly what Maria meant..? I frikking quoted her. Compare what she says to what the actual definition is. © Bart Van Hemelen
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maria1999 said: BartVanHemelen said: Oh, and by the way: "fair weather fans"? I do not think it means what you think it means. Hint: http://www.urbandictionar...eather+fan A fair weather friend is someone who is only around when times are good. But that's not what you said. maria1999 said: Also, this thread wasn't about insulting fans.
You started it off by INSULTING PEOPLE. maria1999 said: I just said that we should be more supportive. Maybe accepting was a better word.
Why? If it's shit, it's shit. If there's anything Prince doesn't need, it's more pampering. Ain't it funny how his music turned to dreck the minute he removed the last voices of opposition from his camp and surrounded himself with yes men? © Bart Van Hemelen
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maria1999 said: For those who still want to be critical after I had apologized.
OK, I got it!!!! You are fans of Prince. It's not that you are fair weather fans or bandwagon jumpers, but you complain about his choices because you're upset with what he's giving you right now. When Prince (the musician , not the person) returns to do what you have grown to love (I know I said I wouldn't use that word, but it fits here) him for then all will be right in Prince.org world. Forgive me, for not seeing that everyone grieves differently. Sigh... When Prince (the musician , not the person) returns to do what you have grown to love
Which is make great music that fits his talent, instead of releasing some dreck that sounds like he recorded it on a Monday afternoon cuz he needed to release something to pay the bills. And by "recorded" I mean "assembled from older recordings he had laying around". I don't give a flying fuck what style it is in, just as long as it's "real". Post-Lovesexy the quality of his output went down each year, until he suddenly hit a rich vein in 1993, which resulted in the great output of 1994/95. Then in 1996 it dropped dramatically and never recovered. © Bart Van Hemelen
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maria1999 said: What never gets old is that no matter what you do or no matter what you say, it's pointless is trying to explain yourself when you are dealing with stubborn, hateful people.
Oh look, you're once again insulting people. © Bart Van Hemelen
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I don't give a flying fuck what style it is in, just as long as it's "real". Post-Lovesexy the quality of his output went down each year, until he suddenly hit a rich vein in 1993, which resulted in the great output of 1994/95. Then in 1996 it dropped dramatically and never recovered. http://prince.org/msg/3/330850 [Edited 2/24/10 11:08am] "New Power slide...." | |
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maria1999 said: Is it that Prince is only "loved" when he is doing what's expected of him by his fans?
I thought fans love "unconditionally" Otherwise, why call yourself a fan? Right now, some of what Prince is doing or saying (or who he is associating with) is not making much sense, but this shouldn't be nothing new to a true Prince fan. Prince has been known to put his all into whatever he believes in and then as soon as he gains interest in something, he quickly loses interest in it. I believe that what going on with him (his last CD, Bria, Larry, etc) is just another phase that he is going through. It is our obligation as fans to be supportive, in spite of his latest fascinations, because we know his potential to do better. This is just how I feel, hate it or love it. but try not to be hostile in commenting on it. Very, very well put Maria1999!! But I would add it appears that he has what I'd call "busy brain". I know people like this, they move on quickly and don't seem to have time to linger. I think it's a volume or quantity issue. There's no problem with them, the problem rests with those of us that just can't keep up with them. And of course some it based on the fact that some people seem to enjoy finding fault in everything.I doubt that they only express it towards Prince, it seems more like a life experience...IMHO. Loyalty, much like courtesy, is sorely missing in many areas of life but we can hope that'll change. With a little practice neither is difficult to do...just a thought | |
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BartVanHemelen said: maria1999 said: For those who still want to be critical after I had apologized.
OK, I got it!!!! You are fans of Prince. It's not that you are fair weather fans or bandwagon jumpers, but you complain about his choices because you're upset with what he's giving you right now. When Prince (the musician , not the person) returns to do what you have grown to love (I know I said I wouldn't use that word, but it fits here) him for then all will be right in Prince.org world. Forgive me, for not seeing that everyone grieves differently. Sigh... When Prince (the musician , not the person) returns to do what you have grown to love
Which is make great music that fits his talent, instead of releasing some dreck that sounds like he recorded it on a Monday afternoon cuz he needed to release something to pay the bills. And by "recorded" I mean "assembled from older recordings he had laying around". I don't give a flying fuck what style it is in, just as long as it's "real". Post-Lovesexy the quality of his output went down each year, until he suddenly hit a rich vein in 1993, which resulted in the great output of 1994/95. Then in 1996 it dropped dramatically and never recovered. You really have no idea do you? You walk around with every Prince factoid to hand, ready to unleash on anyone who hasn't studied every minutiae about Prince from the last 30-years and yet have absolutely no grasp on the most important aspect - the creative process. If you did, you wouldn't come out with bilge like "which is make great music that fits his talent" - WTF? It is impossible for him to make anything other than what his talent allows him at the time - it comes from within and you can't just "pretend" or morph yourself to do something else, you do only what you are capable of. Your perception of what he is capable of is the limitation here, not what Prince's ability is! ...we have only scratched the surface of what the mind can do...
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Mindflux said: You really have no idea do you? You walk around with every Prince factoid to hand, ready to unleash on anyone who hasn't studied every minutiae about Prince from the last 30-years
Yet they do find the time to make up kerrazy nonsense. Mindflux said: and yet have absolutely no grasp on the most important aspect - the creative process.
Sweetie, I'm very well aware of how creativity works. Mindflux said: If you did, you wouldn't come out with bilge like "which is make great music that fits his talent" - WTF? It is impossible for him to make anything other than what his talent allows him at the time - it comes from within and you can't just "pretend" or morph yourself to do something else, you do only what you are capable of. Your perception of what he is capable of is the limitation here, not what Prince's ability is!
Nonsense. Prince has been running on autopilot for years. He can't even be arsed to make things sound good, there's some atrocious sounding stuff on his recent albums. There is ZERO EFFORT is his output of the past couple of years. Funny how I'm labeled a hater for claiming Prince is far too talented to release crap like 3121 and Lotusflow3r, whereas you lot claim he has lost it and what we're getting is all there is. © Bart Van Hemelen
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BartVanHemelen said: Mindflux said: You really have no idea do you? You walk around with every Prince factoid to hand, ready to unleash on anyone who hasn't studied every minutiae about Prince from the last 30-years
Yet they do find the time to make up kerrazy nonsense. Sweetie, I'm very well aware of how creativity works. Mindflux said: If you did, you wouldn't come out with bilge like "which is make great music that fits his talent" - WTF? It is impossible for him to make anything other than what his talent allows him at the time - it comes from within and you can't just "pretend" or morph yourself to do something else, you do only what you are capable of. Your perception of what he is capable of is the limitation here, not what Prince's ability is!
Nonsense. Prince has been running on autopilot for years. He can't even be arsed to make things sound good, there's some atrocious sounding stuff on his recent albums. There is ZERO EFFORT is his output of the past couple of years. Funny how I'm labeled a hater for claiming Prince is far too talented to release crap like 3121 and Lotusflow3r, whereas you lot claim he has lost it and what we're getting is all there is. Bart, though I adore your zeal and applaud your efforts! I simply must keep it real...by saying...those you are addressing have NEVER "claimed" Prince has lost it! That is just a blatant untrue falsehood that I cannot...in good conscience.... allow to stand! Change the word "claim" to "acknowledge" or "realize" and all will be good with me! I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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HatrinaHaterwitz said: BartVanHemelen said: Nonsense. Prince has been running on autopilot for years. He can't even be arsed to make things sound good, there's some atrocious sounding stuff on his recent albums. There is ZERO EFFORT is his output of the past couple of years. Funny how I'm labeled a hater for claiming Prince is far too talented to release crap like 3121 and Lotusflow3r, whereas you lot claim he has lost it and what we're getting is all there is. Bart, though I adore your zeal and applaud your efforts! I simply must keep it real...by saying...those you are addressing have NEVER "claimed" Prince has lost it! That is just a blatant untrue falsehood that I cannot...in good conscience.... allow to stand! Change the word "claim" to "acknowledge" or "realize" and all will be good with me! JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!! | |
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