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PrintableVendetta1 said: Just what we needed: another thread to go with the other 50,000 on the same damn subject.
For the record, we are not obligated to do jack. If Prince makes a crappy song, we are obligated to tell him the truth. I will not be a blind follower to anyone. I am not obligated to sit here and accept the crappy customer service from the Lotus site. I am not obligated to sit here and be content that Prince sues some of his fans or issues former bandmates cease and desist orders or gets pissy when a baby dances to a song on youtube. 
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Vendetta1 said: Just what we needed: another thread to go with the other 50,000 on the same damn subject.
For the record, we are not obligated to do jack. If Prince makes a crappy song, we are obligated to tell him the truth. I will not be a blind follower to anyone. I am not obligated to sit here and accept the crappy customer service from the Lotus site. I am not obligated to sit here and be content that Prince sues some of his fans or issues former bandmates cease and desist orders or gets pissy when a baby dances to a song on youtube. 
He even favors Prince a little bit. 
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vainandy said:
He even favors Prince a little bit.
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What in the hell is wrong with you people. I have clarified that I am not a fam. I have stated that I don't hold Prince up as Christ. I have written over and over again what I meant by what I wrote( even correcting myself for carelessly using the words, unconditionally, love, and obligated). I am not about to sit here and go over any of that again. If you don't get it, then forget it. Nowhere did I say that "we are to blindly follow Prince" for that person or persons that compare my statement to Jim Jones and Jonestown. Some of you must simply look at the original thread and go for broke. Get a damn grip people!!!!!
Again, please, read every comment before commenting. Then you have all the answers to your questions. Idk, some of you make a person wanna cuss. Prince is not and will never be my messiah. All I am simply saying is that we should be supportive (of his musical choices) and allow him to go through this latest phase, instead of hanging him out to dry as if he's somebody who hasn't proven himself musically. I appreciate everyone who were able to comment about this thread with respect, but for the bulk of you.....you're some @*#^ idiots. But, of course, there will be yet another dumbass that will take my thread out of context later on. So, why even bother explaining what I meant to the ignorant. I have already addressed this enough. If that's what you want to get out of this thread.....then that's on you, not me. I'm done. I Guess I did for over everything, after all. | |
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maria1999 said: What in the hell is wrong with you people. I have clarified that I am not a fam. I have stated that I don't hold Prince up as Christ. I have written over and over again what I meant by what I wrote( even correcting myself for carelessly using the words, unconditionally, love, and obligated). I am not about to sit here and go over any of that again. If you don't get it, then forget it. Nowhere did I say that "we are to blindly follow Prince" for that person or persons that compare my statement to Jim Jones and Jonestown. Some of you must simply look at the original thread and go for broke. Get a damn grip people!!!!!
Again, please, read every comment before commenting. Then you have all the answers to your questions. Idk, some of you make a person wanna cuss. Prince is not and will never be my messiah. All I am simply saying is that we should be supportive (of his musical choices) and allow him to go through this latest phase, instead of hanging him out to dry as if he's somebody who hasn't proven himself musically. I appreciate everyone who were able to comment about this thread with respect, but for the bulk of you.....you're some @*#^ idiots. But, of course, there will be yet another dumbass that will take my thread out of context later on. So, why even bother explaining what I meant to the ignorant. I have already addressed this enough. If that's what you want to get out of this thread.....then that's on you, not me. I'm done. I Guess I did for over everything, after all. | |
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Fair Weather Fans for a Fair Weather Prince.
Sounds about right to me. Exchange is not robbery.  | |
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Vendetta1 said: maria1999 said: What in the hell is wrong with you people. I have clarified that I am not a fam. I have stated that I don't hold Prince up as Christ. I have written over and over again what I meant by what I wrote( even correcting myself for carelessly using the words, unconditionally, love, and obligated). I am not about to sit here and go over any of that again. If you don't get it, then forget it. Nowhere did I say that "we are to blindly follow Prince" for that person or persons that compare my statement to Jim Jones and Jonestown. Some of you must simply look at the original thread and go for broke. Get a damn grip people!!!!!
Again, please, read every comment before commenting. Then you have all the answers to your questions. Idk, some of you make a person wanna cuss. Prince is not and will never be my messiah. All I am simply saying is that we should be supportive (of his musical choices) and allow him to go through this latest phase, instead of hanging him out to dry as if he's somebody who hasn't proven himself musically. I appreciate everyone who were able to comment about this thread with respect, but for the bulk of you.....you're some @*#^ idiots. But, of course, there will be yet another dumbass that will take my thread out of context later on. So, why even bother explaining what I meant to the ignorant. I have already addressed this enough. If that's what you want to get out of this thread.....then that's on you, not me. I'm done. I Guess I did for over everything, after all. Dumbasssss  [Edited 2/22/10 20:26pm] | |
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skoolteecher said: Fair Weather Fans for a Fair Weather Prince.
Sounds about right to me. Exchange is not robbery. Yeah.  "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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maria1999 said: What in the hell is wrong with you people. I have clarified that I am not a fam. I have stated that I don't hold Prince up as Christ. I have written over and over again what I meant by what I wrote( even correcting myself for carelessly using the words, unconditionally, love, and obligated). I am not about to sit here and go over any of that again. If you don't get it, then forget it. Nowhere did I say that "we are to blindly follow Prince" for that person or persons that compare my statement to Jim Jones and Jonestown. Some of you must simply look at the original thread and go for broke. Get a damn grip people!!!!!
Again, please, read every comment before commenting. Then you have all the answers to your questions. Idk, some of you make a person wanna cuss. Prince is not and will never be my messiah. All I am simply saying is that we should be supportive (of his musical choices) and allow him to go through this latest phase, instead of hanging him out to dry as if he's somebody who hasn't proven himself musically. I appreciate everyone who were able to comment about this thread with respect, but for the bulk of you.....you're some @*#^ idiots. But, of course, there will be yet another dumbass that will take my thread out of context later on. So, why even bother explaining what I meant to the ignorant. I have already addressed this enough. If that's what you want to get out of this thread.....then that's on you, not me. I'm done. I Guess I did for over everything, after all. Speaking of making somebody wanna cuss...here is the problem with your dumbass thread! The majority of the people you are talking about here have been Prince fans for decades! Some, myself included, go all the way back to the very beginning of Prince's career! We've been supportive of Prince and his music through ALL of his good, his bad and his what the fuck was he thinking! Not because we were obligated to do so, nor because of any unconditional love! We did so because WE WANTED TO and WE CHOSE TO because of what his music means to us, individually! So our not liking his current efforts and being vocal about it, doesn't make us "fair weather fans"! It makes us the TRUEST of all his fans because we care enough to be HONEST about his happy ass when it's more than apparent that nobody else is...when somebody needs and has to! You are free to think whatever you like about us...just know that when you come on here trying to lecture us...that if we aren't afraid to tell it like it is when it comes to Prince...we damn sure won't give a flying fuck about telling it like it is when it comes to the likes of you! . [Edited 2/22/10 22:20pm] I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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To Hatrina Haterwitz and other members of Prince.org.
I'm sorry. I was wrong to judge you. I now realize how careless I've been. Please forgive me for my ignorance in all things Prince. I will never bother you with my opinions again. But, I refuse to be discounted as a Prince novice. I've been listening to Prince's music for nearly twenty years. And I will not be disrespected by anyone. When I joined this site, I thought I was amongst like-minded Prince fans. I didn't know the extent that you guys go to to get your points across. I have a right to my opinion and you have a right to respond. That's not my problem with this site. I welcome your opinion, it just appears that you don't value mines. I didn't mean to "lecture" anyone. I was asked to explain my comment and I thought I did. As for cussing, that's me getting defensive. Just as you do when you feel that your views are under attack. We're all adults here, why must we be sooo vicious? | |
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Acrylic said: Damn, I even apologized. Why was that necessary? | |
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maria1999 said: Acrylic said: Damn, I even apologized. Why was that necessary? Because it's so rarely I get to use that awesome emoticon. ACRYLIC
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Acrylic said: maria1999 said: Damn, I even apologized. Why was that necessary? Because it's so rarely I get to use that awesome emoticon. Okay. | |
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maria1999 said: And I will not be disrespected by anyone.
Says the person who starts a thread insulting other fans. © Bart Van Hemelen
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maria1999 said: Is it that Prince is only "loved" when he is doing what's expected of him by his fans?
Oh, and by the way: "fair weather fans"? I do not think it means what you think it means. Hint: http://www.urbandictionar...eather+fan © Bart Van Hemelen
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I think too many people around here act like Prince is either the second coming of The Pope or Charles Manson.
He's not perfect, and has made a lot of mistakes. But they're not really that major and not worth making a federal case about like a lot of people here think. -The LotusFlow3r website hasn't been successful at all. So I won't be renewing my membership. Not that big a deal, IMO. -The Youtube thing doesn't bother me in the slightest. An artist should always be able to control how his art is distributed. Plus, Youtube ain't the only game in town. People whining and crying about the youtube thing need to do their homework. -Quality of music declining. Art has always been subjective. Britney Spears sold 100 million copies, still doesn't mean her music is any good. Also, a lot of people seem to be personally offended by Prince's songwriting abilities declining. -Prince being a Jehovah Witness doesn't matter to me one bit. I'm honestly shocked at how many people really care about this. 10 years later. JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!! | |
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BartVanHemelen said: maria1999 said: Is it that Prince is only "loved" when he is doing what's expected of him by his fans?
Oh, and by the way: "fair weather fans"? I do not think it means what you think it means. Hint: http://www.urbandictionar...eather+fan Really? I thought that's exactly what Maria meant..? I think she's actually put up a good solid argument, and has responded to half arsed replies well, asking them to read the whole thread before taking cheap shots. I don't agree with her view, but that's what forums are for. Whilst I don't agree with her comments, I respect her right to voice them. 
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erik319 said: BartVanHemelen said: Oh, and by the way: "fair weather fans"? I do not think it means what you think it means. Hint: http://www.urbandictionar...eather+fan Really? I thought that's exactly what Maria meant..? I think she's actually put up a good solid argument, and has responded to half arsed replies well, asking them to read the whole thread before taking cheap shots. I don't agree with her view, but that's what forums are for. Whilst I don't agree with her comments, I respect her right to voice them.
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maria1999 said: Vendetta1 said: Dumbasssss
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Vendetta1 said: The problem erik is the painting of people here with broad strokes. The assumption that, because we can be uber-critical, that we are fair-weather. If I could not appreciate his new directions, I would have left after Purple Rain.
Preeching to the converted mate, you only have to read my posts to see that I think Prince has lost his spark. All I was trying to point out was that instead of the usual Fam "I'm right, and your comments are irrellevent, hater" type post, Maria has actually tried to follow up her OP with more views and explanations, she's not simply another blinkered fam. I really wish something would happen in Princeland to give us something new to talk about. Want to get back to discussing the music rather than all the other guff that follows him around 
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maria1999 said: Is it that Prince is only "loved" when he is doing what's expected of him by his fans?
I thought fans love "unconditionally" Otherwise, why call yourself a fan? everyone here loves him unconditionally or they wouldn't still be here  2039 all treasures retrieved | |
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citrus said: maria1999 said: Is it that Prince is only "loved" when he is doing what's expected of him by his fans?
I thought fans love "unconditionally" Otherwise, why call yourself a fan? everyone here loves him unconditionally or they wouldn't still be here Not at all - you do realise that generalisations are inherently false?! ...we have only scratched the surface of what the mind can do...
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Mindflux said: citrus said: everyone here loves him unconditionally or they wouldn't still be here Not at all - you do realise that generalisations are inherently false?! come on you know you love princey 2039 all treasures retrieved | |
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citrus said: Mindflux said: Not at all - you do realise that generalisations are inherently false?! come on you know you love princey Yes, I'm an admirer of his work. But I don't unconditionally love him (or his work). Like, I'm not going to enthuse about a recording of him shitting in a tin can! ...we have only scratched the surface of what the mind can do...
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Vendetta1 said: The assumption that, because we can be uber-critical, that we are fair-weather. If I could not appreciate his new directions, I would have left after Purpleanyrecord.
And there's all the counter argument this thread really needs. All the argument should be is this: "Oh, you can be critical and a call yourself a hardcore fan? .. I don't get that, since I can't" Anyway ... I hate debates that are essentially nothing more than discussions about true fans (said with operatic voice in a cathedral with a thousand fat, white baby angels singing cathedral choir) and untrue fans (said with Darth Vader voice in the pits of hell while the earth trembles). As if there's a such thing (well, there is, but the concept dies out when you hit adulthood, and no, I don't mean your right to vote). |
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Mindflux said: citrus said: come on you know you love princey Yes, dont you just love it when he bats his eyes 2039 all treasures retrieved | |
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Cravens said: Anyway ... I hate debates that are essentially nothing more than discussions about true fans (said with operatic voice in a cathedral with a thousand fat, white baby angels singing cathedral choir) and untrue fans (said with Darth Vader voice in the pits of hell while the earth trembles)
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maria1999 said: To Hatrina Haterwitz and other members of Prince.org.
I'm sorry. I was wrong to judge you. I now realize how careless I've been. Please forgive me for my ignorance in all things Prince. I will never bother you with my opinions again. But, I refuse to be discounted as a Prince novice. I've been listening to Prince's music for nearly twenty years. And I will not be disrespected by anyone. When I joined this site, I thought I was amongst like-minded Prince fans. I didn't know the extent that you guys go to to get your points across. I have a right to my opinion and you have a right to respond. That's not my problem with this site. I welcome your opinion, it just appears that you don't value mines. I didn't mean to "lecture" anyone. I was asked to explain my comment and I thought I did. As for cussing, that's me getting defensive. Just as you do when you feel that your views are under attack. We're all adults here, why must we be sooo vicious? I'm really not sure if you are being sarcastic or not but it makes me no difference, one way or the other. I've read and reread this thread, no one has discounted you as a novice, for the most part they just didn't agree with you BUT they actually took it easy on you. If you want respect around here, you have to show up with some yourself because you have no idea just how vicious this place can get! You are as welcome to your opinion as everyone else here is. but if you are expecting it to be valued...you are so in the wrong damn place! I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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