WetDream said: tricky99 said: i find people like u to be so sad. Waiting for prince to fulfill your fantasies. You have to be incredibely egocentric to think that Prince is somehow going to cater to your desires. As if the music needs to blow you away to be good. That's so childlike. Adults understand that the world doesn't exist for their benefit. And Prince doesn't exist for u. ohh!! Somebody just got told! Not really. Sheeple 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: WetDream said: ohh!! Somebody just got told! Not really. Sheeple Exactly, not at all. The kids always ban together like Children of the Corn or something. LOL It makes me clones, not individuals. How boring. | |
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ernestsewell said: NelsonR said: his past is to be appreciated, nothing wrong with that;
but some people hold it as a continuous litmus test against his new experiments. makes me think of when he sings "my only competition is me in the past" and on Daddy Pop "living in the past when we need to be living the new" When he stops experimenting (a word he hates, by the way), and starts just creating great music again, then I'm game. I love more than the 1984 Prince. The 90's were just as prolific with a multitude of material in a short amount of time. Frankly, you're only as good as your last album, and Prince hasn't had a truly mind blowing, and incredible, album in 14 years. "But how can you say that?!" Because I can, that's why. I hold that truth to be self-evident, that not all Prince albums are created equally. Prince has dumbed down his albums musically and, frankly, lyrically. He's just preachy now. He's a pastor without a pulpit. He's his own million man march, and just a cuppa hun'ed people are showing up. Prince in concert will always hatch a strong and positive reaction from people, myself included. It's his music, since being an alleged free man, that has softened his brain and our funkspectations. However, with every album, I'm hopeful of something that will once again, make me sit up in my chair and say, "Now THAT is Prince!", whatever "Prince" is/was/will be. So is the past a litmus test? Fuck yeah it is. People compare to Planet Earth to Musicology, albums that were only a few years apart. Is that holding Prince to his past because some believe PE wasn't nearly as great as Musicology? Prince has repeatedly, HIMSELF, said he was hearkening back to his past sound. He said it about Musicology, and he said it about MPLSound, yet there are fans like you who seem to forget that coming from Prince's lips, and point fingers at other fans who might actually expect Prince to keep his word. Prince the star has fully taken over Prince the person. Or is it vice versa? Has the personal journey he's chosen to take upon himself only yoked the star of Prince into submission and mediocre music? There used to be a balance, but now - not so much. Prince has forgotten who is, all around. History repeats itself. Critics said he lost his funk in the 80's, and he "showed them". Critics are saying that yet again about him.....I'm just waiting for him to show them up, and prove them wrong. Still waiting... What "Critics" please post their responds? Because some of his fans still like his new music. Are you putting his past and present treatment of fans and close "Associates" with his music? Because if you are thats wrong. It's nothing wrong with "Prince Music" it is his business decisions and sometimes are very distasteful. I have something this is from Rolling Stone review of Lotusflow3r Relentlessly and without any regard to the law of diminishing returns. Prince's recording career now spans 31 years: Counting fan-club records, he's averaged more than one studio album per year. His latest release actually contains three separate albums, including one he wrote and produced with his new protégée, Bria Valente. The package is excessive and uneven, of course, but it's also intermittently brilliant and a real bargain (that is, if you buy it for $11.98 at Target — not so much if you download it with a $77 membership at lotusflow3r.com). Prince played every instrument on MPLSoUND — just like the old days, only now he gets obsessive with Pro Tools. He isn't as bawdy as he once was (becoming a Jehovah's Witness will do that), but he's still got a lot of humor and swagger. On the funky "(There'll Never B) Another Like Me," he sings about his beauty routine (it involves olive oil in his hair), and on the seven-and-a-half-minute "Ol' Skool Company," he covers issues from the TARP bailout to the state of radio ("If the White House is black/We gotta take the radio back"). Five of MPLSoUND's nine songs sound like lost B sides from assorted classic Prince albums (Dirty Mind, 1999, Controversy, etc.); these days, even a really good Prince song usually reminds the listener of a better, earlier one. What really hamstrings the album, though, is a four-song sequence in the middle: Two syrupy ballads, one overlong tribute to Valente and one Caribbean-inflected number that sounds like a Smoove B seduction. On LOtUSFLOW3R, Prince has a specific mission: showcasing his long-underrated guitar playing. Whether it's the spare funk of "Wall of Berlin," the metal grind of "Dreamer" or the hazy cover of "Crimson and Clover," the music kicks into high gear when Prince starts soloing, delivering one epic face melter after another in a style halfway between David Gilmour's and Eddie Hazel's. The drawback is that when he isn’t playing guitar, the music on this disc is oddly muted — you keep waiting for Captain Six-String to fly in and save the day. It's OK to call a song "Love Like Jazz," but the jazz in the title shouldn't be cocktail jazz. It’s been more than a decade since Prince successfully launched the career of a female sidekick, but he's trying again with Valente. Prince has touted Elixer as a quiet-storm album in the Sade mode, but most of it is just generic pop ballads. The lyrics are memorable only when they're clunky ("Taste the rainbow," goes one line, which sounds like it could have come from a Skittles ad). Valente has a pleasant, if thin, voice — she doesn’t have the chops to elevate this material into anything memorable. There is one gem here: The catchy dance number "2Nite," where Valente whispers over insistent disco keyboards. One day, it, along with the best tracks from MPLSoUND and LOtUSFLOW3R, will sound right at home on Prince’s inevitable box set: 2 Much of a Good Thing. MPLSoUND - Three and a half stars LOtUSFLOW3R - Three stars [Edited 2/19/10 12:32pm] | |
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ernestsewell said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Not really. Sheeple Exactly, not at all. The kids always ban together like Children of the Corn or something. LOL It makes me clones, not individuals. How boring. Children of the Purple Corn. SO PERFECT There are times where I feel glad I don't have to face them in a lonely deserted midwest town after Armageddon just happened 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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"will never accept Prince again"???
Maybe you are right, I am about to give up, to hear truly great music from Prince again. [Edited 2/19/10 12:46pm] Prince 4Ever. | |
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NelsonR said: this may sound like a strange statement, because they call themselves
fans, but 'tis true some ppl simply cannot accept Prince for who he has grown into. they still live in 1984 or around that time. the reality is we're heading for 2011...Prince is a new person. he will not say things like: "i sincerely want to fuck the taste out of your mouth" and as he is quoted as saying, fans who miss those lyrics are displaying more of their inner-selves he is not interested in the glam rock image any more...and does not play the games that the media like to involve themselves in...he is about his music, which he has more than enough of perhaps, that is his curse...many ppl will love him for his past, rejecting who he is in the present, while others accept him as an evolving being Much of this could have been said at any point in Prince's career, and would be as accurate as it is today. But so what? Everybody reacts to music differently. I happen to really like Lotusflow3r/MPLSound, as I've liked most of his 00's output - - but I also think that most of it does not approach his finest work. Other people feel differently. Prince has lost (and sometimes gained) fans with every album he's done. Losing interest in his current music does not mean they "live in 1984" or don't "accpet him as an evolving being." [Edited 2/19/10 12:53pm] * * *
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ernestsewell said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Not really. Sheeple Exactly, not at all. The kids always ban together like Children of the Corn or something. LOL It makes me clones, not individuals. How boring. I do nothing professionally. I only do things for fun. johnart: Acrylic's old bras is where tits of all sizes go to frolic after they die. Tit Heaven. | |
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It always baffles me how the ones always trying to chastise others about being stuck in the past and just wanting ol' cursing Prince back, are the only ones around here who actually go out of their way to quote Prince's raunchiest lyrics! Seems like they're projecting and trying to be slick about it to me! I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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ernestsewell said: tricky99 said: You're like an old person that can't comprehend anything new. I guess u keep trying. Why don't u get help prince-addict.
You're like any other kid who thinks the world revolves around him, and everything he thinks is right, all the time. Being older doesn't mean you lose perspective, and the ability to understand new things. Quite the contrary, kiddo; it means you gain that ability even more. Things are quite different when you not only see the big picture, but you've lived through it. You speak like a fucking fool when you say things like "you're like an old person who can't comprehend anything new". How stupid of a statement. In another 10 years, you'll be singing a whole different tune, little one. Until then... Thanks for doing the nose punching today for those of us with dementia. Have I told you lately that I love you Ernest? (private joke. no offense meant so please no twisted panties eh?) | |
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The quality of music was raised so high from 1979 to 1995 that when he makes OK music some people will say "WTF this sucks!!". Those who like me that became a fan in the 2000's we don't really know better I guess you could say.
So to me he still has made some great stuff, although far and fewer between. I'd actually rank "3121" as strong as his 80's and 90's stuff, and it only came out 4 years ago.. | |
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GraffitiKid said: The quality of music was raised so high from 1979 to 1995 that when he makes OK music some people will say "WTF this sucks!!". Those who like me that became a fan in the 2000's we don't really know better I guess you could say.
So to me he still has made some great stuff, although far and fewer between. I'd actually rank "3121" as strong as his 80's and 90's stuff, and it only came out 4 years ago.. Well, not knowing better is just about listening to the old stuff, and really digging into things and learning his music, and then you gain some perspective from that. You're also corrected on the far and few between. I agree with your 3121 assessment. It was pretty good stuff. The title track alone is funky as "Erotic City" just about. "Love" is one of those songs that, 25 years ago, would have been a b-side. Prince sometimes saved his really personal stuff as b-sides, like "Girl", "She's Always In My Hair", and "Hello". "Love" is a direct spout at haters, and if he still released singles and B-sides, I bet "Love" would have ended up there. On the same tip, and I know I'm in a minority on this thought, Planet Earth had it's flashback moments as well. The title track is right in line with "Free". It's almost a march, and an anthem all in one. Reminds me a lot of MJ's "Earth Song". "Guitar" and "The 1 U Wanna C" is pop rock just like "Let's Go Crazy" or "Kiss". I think either could have been on SOTT and made perfect sense. | |
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Say what you want about Prince, his latest music or his weird theories (chemtrails and whatnot).
At the end of the day, he still has the capability and talent and the gift to turn ALL of you into believers again at the drop of a dime. Happened to me in 2002 when I went to the celebration at Paisley Park.Or after watching his rendition of Little Red Corvette (not even one of my favorite songs in its original incarnation) at Coachella and Montreux. Many famous artists faded out and became washed up at later stages in their career but Prince is of a totally different caliber. Age doesn´t matter, he will always be able to deliver a great, classy show if he puts his heart into it, whether as a guitar player or an old, gray haired man playing some tunes on the piano. In my opinion, he cannot be compared to most other artists who became a sad parody of themselves in their later years. Thing is...he royally fucks up things on so many levels, it´s almost surreal. And I think that is one of the reasons why it´s bugging us so much....if he were REALLY old and washed up and had lost his skills as a musician, I guess we´d somehow accept it much easier.....but to know that there is still so much potential there, still the possibility that he MIGHT come up with greatness once again, as he has done time and time again in the last decades when you least expected it..knowing THAT and seeing what he is doing in reality, from failed websites to corny lyrics and odd behaviour, that is what is eating us from the inside. I can´t , won´t and don´t see him in the same category as, say, Stevie Wonder or the late James Brown or MJ or whoever.....not to disrespect them but Prince is from a totally different planet. And you can´t deny his skills as a musician....he´s probably even better than ever before...one can dislike the content of albums like Lotusflower but the musicianship is top notch. Not necessarily the creativity, because I find a lot of his recent output not really creative ( MPLSound etc.) but the skill and raw talent is still there, in a much more refined version. " I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?" | |
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NelsonR said: the reality is we're heading for 2011 It's Feb 19, 2010, but we're "heading for 2011"? | |
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TwiliteKid said: NelsonR said: the reality is we're heading for 2011 It's Feb 19, 2010, but we're "heading for 2011"? hahaha exactly. | |
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Bottom Line:
How ever much Prince has ever, is currently disappointing you/your fandom... If you are posting here at prince.org daily...you are pretty much swinging from his nuts. Whether it is because of 1984 or 2004 is irrelevant. I'm here doing it in 2010...so are you. [Edited 2/19/10 16:06pm] "New Power slide...." | |
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skywalker said: Bottom Line:
How ever much Prince has ever, is currently disappointing you/your fandom... If you are posting here at prince.org daily...you are pretty much swinging from his nuts. Whether it is because of 1984 or 2004 is irrelevant. I'm here doing it in 2010...so are you. [Edited 2/19/10 16:06pm] we aint doin it for him. there are other forums here most of which can have discussions none of which apply to or are about Prince. It's possible to be here and never even think about the man 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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veronikka said: NelsonR said: .
the reality is we're heading for 2011...Prince is a new person. he will not say things like: "i sincerely want to fuck the taste out of your mouth" and as he is quoted as saying, fans who miss those lyrics are displaying more of their inner-selves why not!!!! ^^^^^ "Raow Raow. Meow Moaw."
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NelsonR said: this may sound like a strange statement, because they call themselves
fans, but 'tis true some ppl simply cannot accept Prince for who he has grown into. they still live in 1984 or around that time. the reality is we're heading for 2011...Prince is a new person. he will not say things like: "i sincerely want to fuck the taste out of your mouth" and as he is quoted as saying, fans who miss those lyrics are displaying more of their inner-selves he is not interested in the glam rock image any more...and does not play the games that the media like to involve themselves in...he is about his music, which he has more than enough of perhaps, that is his curse...many ppl will love him for his past, rejecting who he is in the present, while others accept him as an evolving being Maybe I'll like in like 40 years wrinkles, old age, and all... "Raow Raow. Meow Moaw."
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: skywalker said: Bottom Line:
How ever much Prince has ever, is currently disappointing you/your fandom... If you are posting here at prince.org daily...you are pretty much swinging from his nuts. Whether it is because of 1984 or 2004 is irrelevant. I'm here doing it in 2010...so are you. [Edited 2/19/10 16:06pm] we aint doin it for him. there are other forums here most of which can have discussions none of which apply to or are about Prince. It's possible to be here and never even think about the man I am not saying that you do it for him. All I am say is that we aren't socializing on facebook, or something like that. You are at prince.org. Place for prince fans. So tell me you come here and don't think about Prince at all and I'll believe you. However, you/we are Prince fans one way or another. Big enough Prince fans to log in to THE Prince fan site and do whatever there is to do. I mean, do you go to Jimi Hendrix fan pages and "hang out" with other folks a lot? "New Power slide...." | |
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So funny watching the usual obsessive oldies defend themselves. They post in every fackin' thread! Go out and get a life and stop drooling at Prince's pix, jealous that he looks better than you at 51! Lordy... Better yet, i'll give it to you straight like a pear cider that's made from a 100% pear... ...stop feeding us your warm diarrhea. [Edited 2/19/10 16:41pm] This Post is produced, arranged, composed and performed by WetDream | |
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skywalker said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: we aint doin it for him. there are other forums here most of which can have discussions none of which apply to or are about Prince. It's possible to be here and never even think about the man I am not saying that you do it for him. All I am say is that we aren't socializing on facebook, or something like that. You are at prince.org. Place for prince fans. So tell me you come here and don't think about Prince at all and I'll believe you. However, you/we are Prince fans one way or another. Big enough Prince fans to log in to THE Prince fan site and do whatever there is to do. I mean, do you go to Jimi Hendrix fan pages and "hang out" with other folks a lot? Just because your mom was the first person to take you to Disneyland when you were 5 doesn't mean you are indebted to her for life every single time you go by yourself or with someone else. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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tricky99 said: ernestsewell said: When he stops experimenting (a word he hates, by the way), and starts just creating great music again, then I'm game. I love more than the 1984 Prince. The 90's were just as prolific with a multitude of material in a short amount of time. Frankly, you're only as good as your last album, and Prince hasn't had a truly mind blowing, and incredible, album in 14 years. "But how can you say that?!" Because I can, that's why. I hold that truth to be self-evident, that not all Prince albums are created equally. Prince has dumbed down his albums musically and, frankly, lyrically. He's just preachy now. He's a pastor without a pulpit. He's his own million man march, and just a cuppa hun'ed people are showing up. Prince in concert will always hatch a strong and positive reaction from people, myself included. It's his music, since being an alleged free man, that has softened his brain and our funkspectations. However, with every album, I'm hopeful of something that will once again, make me sit up in my chair and say, "Now THAT is Prince!", whatever "Prince" is/was/will be. So is the past a litmus test? Fuck yeah it is. People compare to Planet Earth to Musicology, albums that were only a few years apart. Is that holding Prince to his past because some believe PE wasn't nearly as great as Musicology? Prince has repeatedly, HIMSELF, said he was hearkening back to his past sound. He said it about Musicology, and he said it about MPLSound, yet there are fans like you who seem to forget that coming from Prince's lips, and point fingers at other fans who might actually expect Prince to keep his word. Prince the star has fully taken over Prince the person. Or is it vice versa? Has the personal journey he's chosen to take upon himself only yoked the star of Prince into submission and mediocre music? There used to be a balance, but now - not so much. Prince has forgotten who is, all around. History repeats itself. Critics said he lost his funk in the 80's, and he "showed them". Critics are saying that yet again about him.....I'm just waiting for him to show them up, and prove them wrong. Still waiting... i find people like u to be so sad. Waiting for prince to fulfill your fantasies. You have to be incredibely egocentric to think that Prince is somehow going to cater to your desires. As if the music needs to blow you away to be good. That's so childlike. Adults understand that the world doesn't exist for their benefit. And Prince doesn't exist for u. Oh really? Then why does he have his CDs for sale to the public and want people to buy them? I think you've got it backwards. People don't have to give a damn what Prince wants because it is Prince that is selling his product to them and if they don't like it, they don't have to buy it. But if they have bought a product and it was unsatisfactory, they have the right to complain about it just like any other product for sale. Consumers aren't here to cater to Prince's wishes, Prince is here to cater to their wishes. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: Oh really? Then why does he have his CDs for sale to the public and want people to buy them? I think you've got it backwards. People don't have to give a damn what Prince wants because it is Prince that is selling his product to them and if they don't like it, they don't have to buy it. But if they have bought a product and it was unsatisfactory, they have the right to complain about it just like any other product for sale. Consumers aren't here to cater to Prince's wishes, Prince is here to cater to their wishes. vainandy has a good point. Prince has to deliver we are his "Consumers" but some of his Consumers think "ain't nothing wrong" with his music. | |
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skywalker said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: we aint doin it for him. there are other forums here most of which can have discussions none of which apply to or are about Prince. It's possible to be here and never even think about the man I am not saying that you do it for him. All I am say is that we aren't socializing on facebook, or something like that. You are at prince.org. Place for prince fans. So tell me you come here and don't think about Prince at all and I'll believe you. However, you/we are Prince fans one way or another. Big enough Prince fans to log in to THE Prince fan site and do whatever there is to do. I mean, do you go to Jimi Hendrix fan pages and "hang out" with other folks a lot? The org has a Music: Non-Prince Section, Associated Artists Section, General Discussion Section, and Politics and Religion Section so people come here to discuss things other than just Prince. When the threads in the other sections aren't jumping to people's liking, that's when a lot of the older fans come into the Prince section. Why do all this on a site dedicated to Prince? Because we all are either Prince fans presently or past Prince fans. Look at all the "Song of the Day" threads over in the Music: Non-Prince Section. We discuss plenty of old music as well as new music and fans who are no longer feeling Prince do discuss his old music that they liked also. But if the subject of particular Prince music that they don't like comes up, they are free to tell the truth about how they feel about it. No one should lie about what they think about something. As for "just don't say anything at all about things you don't like", well, things never changed by people keeping their mouths shut and simply going along with the program. Not that people are trying to or have the capability to change Prince or anything but they are free to give their opinion about something they don't like just like people are free to give their opinion about something they do like. The problem is, a lot of the Prince worshipers can't stand to hear anything negative whatsoever. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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sacrifice said: vainandy said: Oh really? Then why does he have his CDs for sale to the public and want people to buy them? I think you've got it backwards. People don't have to give a damn what Prince wants because it is Prince that is selling his product to them and if they don't like it, they don't have to buy it. But if they have bought a product and it was unsatisfactory, they have the right to complain about it just like any other product for sale. Consumers aren't here to cater to Prince's wishes, Prince is here to cater to their wishes. vainandy has a good point. Prince has to deliver we are his "Consumers" but some of his Consumers think "ain't nothing wrong" with his music. And they are free to voice their like for his product just like those are free to voice their dislike. Whether people like it or not, Prince is a product. It is his music they are purchasing and they purchase it hoping it will be something they want to hear, not what Prince wants to hear. If Prince wants to make music simply for what he wants to hear, then he needs to keep it to himself for his personal use and not sell it. I personally like some music from The Carpenters but I would never play it a party I'm throwing because my guests wouldn't want to hear it. If I did play them at a party though, I would have no right to complain if the guests talked about it like a dog because I shouldn't have tried to feed them something they don't want in the first place. People don't know Prince personally and he doesn't know them either. But these silly remarks about "Prince ain't here to please you", I'm sorry but yes he is, he's selling a product. . . . [Edited 2/19/10 17:40pm] Andy is a four letter word. | |
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ernestsewell said: NelsonR said: his past is to be appreciated, nothing wrong with that;
but some people hold it as a continuous litmus test against his new experiments. makes me think of when he sings "my only competition is me in the past" and on Daddy Pop "living in the past when we need to be living the new" When he stops experimenting (a word he hates, by the way), and starts just creating great music again, then I'm game. I love more than the 1984 Prince. The 90's were just as prolific with a multitude of material in a short amount of time. Frankly, you're only as good as your last album, and Prince hasn't had a truly mind blowing, and incredible, album in 14 years. "But how can you say that?!" Because I can, that's why. I hold that truth to be self-evident, that not all Prince albums are created equally. Prince has dumbed down his albums musically and, frankly, lyrically. He's just preachy now. He's a pastor without a pulpit. He's his own million man march, and just a cuppa hun'ed people are showing up. Prince in concert will always hatch a strong and positive reaction from people, myself included. It's his music, since being an alleged free man, that has softened his brain and our funkspectations. However, with every album, I'm hopeful of something that will once again, make me sit up in my chair and say, "Now THAT is Prince!", whatever "Prince" is/was/will be. So is the past a litmus test? Fuck yeah it is. People compare to Planet Earth to Musicology, albums that were only a few years apart. Is that holding Prince to his past because some believe PE wasn't nearly as great as Musicology? Prince has repeatedly, HIMSELF, said he was hearkening back to his past sound. He said it about Musicology, and he said it about MPLSound, yet there are fans like you who seem to forget that coming from Prince's lips, and point fingers at other fans who might actually expect Prince to keep his word. Prince the star has fully taken over Prince the person. Or is it vice versa? Has the personal journey he's chosen to take upon himself only yoked the star of Prince into submission and mediocre music? There used to be a balance, but now - not so much. Prince has forgotten who is, all around. History repeats itself. Critics said he lost his funk in the 80's, and he "showed them". Critics are saying that yet again about him.....I'm just waiting for him to show them up, and prove them wrong. Still waiting... I'm sorry, but I actually have to agree with this. So what are u going 2 do? R u just gonna sit there and watch? I'm not gonna stop until the war is over. Its gonna take a long time | |
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Huggiebear said: I'm sorry, but I actually have to agree with this.
So if you agree, why are you sorry? | |
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New [Prince] begins sinced baptized in Jehovah's Witnesses. | |
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Why do all this on a site dedicated to Prince? Because we all are either Prince fans presently or past Prince fans. This is the point of my original post. But if the subject of particular Prince music that they don't like comes up, they are free to tell the truth about how they feel about it. No one should lie about what they think about something. As for "just don't say anything at all about things you don't like", well, things never changed by people keeping their mouths shut and simply going along with the program.
I agree with this. However, is being a Prince fan really a "program"? Prince fandom is not like a political cause/religion or something. Sure, it inspires passion, but at the end of the day shouldn't it be fun? I like prince.org a lot, and I enjoy seeing/reading what everyone else has to say. However, there is a fair amount of cynicism to wade through. It swings both ways, perhaps the cynicism is needed to balance out the way out there uber-scary Prince stalkers floating around? [Edited 2/19/10 19:17pm] "New Power slide...." | |
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