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Reply #30 posted 02/18/10 6:44am

Kara

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gamera said:

ernestsewell said:

It's horrible, preachy, racist, and sets religion back 100 years.


You're totally right. That being said I still love listening to this record. The music itself is beautiful, and it came as no surprise to me personally that Prince is a fucking LOON. Just because the man is a genius musician and I can totally dig on this record doesn't mean I swallow every weird word that falls out of his face.

Agreed.

I loved the album from the first listen. Musically, I thought it was the most inspired and interesting piece of work he had done in years. I couldn't care less about lyrics, so that's why I can still enjoy it despite the fact that the album's religious themes go against everything I believe.
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Reply #31 posted 02/18/10 7:49am

MrGravyLumps

As a musician with a group, the band is in tight form. The spirituality is too deep at times but it doesen't mean I can't appreciate the music. Mind you, it took about 2 or 3 listenings to get into it.

The opening track is a jazzy groove that features some of the best studio guitar playing Prince has ever published to this date. The sound turns into a freaky kind towards the end but it's all good.

Some of the songs you could probably call "organic soul", such as Mellow and The Muse. The overall sound is very warm, kind of like india.arie and Erykah Badu but totally still sounding like Prince at the time. Nothing wrong with warm!

The funk is very deep in some songs, like Family Name and Everlasting now. The Family Name's drumming is the funkiest thing I have heard in a long time by anyone. Kind of reminds me f Lenny Kravitz's "Come on and Love me", another very funky groove, I listen to these quite often still today.

Everlasting Now... Some of you folks were fortunate to hear this played live. Blackwell is doing a fantastic job on this and again, Prince's guitar playing is totally in place here.

If you're looking for another hit in the vein of Let's go crazy or whatever, it may not be for you. Lovesexy and Graffiti Bridge are not for everyone either. In a way these albums are kind of related to this project and when compared, Prince seems to have finally come closer to what he is searching for in spritual sense.

A musician might pick this up and try to play along, it really is a fascinating piece of work in my opinion. Soul, jazz and funk diggers might be into this too, check out the album first before buying it though!
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Reply #32 posted 02/18/10 8:26am

datdude

loved it at first listen. IN SPITE OF the darth vader voice. i understood (even if disagreed with) his "spiritual politics" but it didn't alienate me or overshadow how good the music is.
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Reply #33 posted 02/18/10 9:43am

NoVideo

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There are a few really good moments (in particular She Loves Me 4 Me, which is just lovely), but overall its a nasty, obsessive, delusional mess.
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Reply #34 posted 02/18/10 9:52am

peterv

Stiil think it's one of his best in years... The mere fact that there is still hate out for it proves that it classic Prince... Quality work that is "controversial."
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Reply #35 posted 02/18/10 10:04am

XxAxX

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JudasLChrist said:

Anti-semetic, woman hating, smooth-jazz piece of garbage.



this album took a onve-unified group of fans and split us down the middle. ain't been back together again since neutral
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Reply #36 posted 02/18/10 10:12am

Brofie

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fever said:

Took me a few years but I became really fond of it last spring. Thoughts?


Its a masterpiece and easily the most underrated Prince album.
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Reply #37 posted 02/18/10 10:13am

Brofie

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XxAxX said:

JudasLChrist said:

Anti-semetic, woman hating, smooth-jazz piece of garbage.



this album took a onve-unified group of fans and split us down the middle. ain't been back together again since neutral


so what? that fan nonsense is for losers anyway
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Reply #38 posted 02/18/10 10:35am

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Yes his ramblings are not everyone's cup of tea, but musicaly it's awash with all those little idiosyncratic little trinkets we had grown accustomed to.
For me it's a top three album, i just love it... thumbs up!
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Reply #39 posted 02/18/10 11:25am

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fever said:

Took me a few years but I became really fond of it last spring. Thoughts?


Didn't like it when I 1st heard it but after puttin' that sucka on heavy rotation. I appreciate it a lot better.
Peace ... & Stay Funky ...

~* The only love there is, is the love "we" make *~

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Reply #40 posted 02/18/10 11:44am

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XxAxX said:

JudasLChrist said:

Anti-semetic, woman hating, smooth-jazz piece of garbage.



this album took a onve-unified group of fans and split us down the middle. ain't been back together again since neutral


What kinda bs is this? You know Prince fans have been pissing and moaning with each other since at least the dawn of the internet. Maybe even as early as 1985.
"New Power slide...."
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Reply #41 posted 02/18/10 11:50am

JesusFreak

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JudasLChrist said:

Anti-semetic, woman hating, smooth-jazz piece of garbage.

lol lmaoo.
The Rainbow Children has to be one of his most uplifting albums
where the heck did you dig up anti-semeticsm? falloff

Anyways, I didn't think i'd like this album but at the first run through it quickly became one of my favorites.
Last December totally defines who he is as an insanely capable musician.
"Not to sound cosmic, but I've made plans for the next 3,000 years," he says. "Before, it was only three days at a time."
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Reply #42 posted 02/18/10 12:00pm

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Musically brilliant.
To my ears, it was the last record to have it's own 'sound' (save for the instrumental albums 'Xenephobia' &'N.E.W.S.').
The lyrics, to me, are just a story.

Prost! beer
"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #43 posted 02/18/10 12:07pm

Joyinrepatitio
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JesusFreak said:

JudasLChrist said:

Anti-semetic, woman hating, smooth-jazz piece of garbage.

lol lmaoo.
The Rainbow Children has to be one of his most uplifting albums
where the heck did you dig up anti-semeticsm? falloff

Anyways, I didn't think i'd like this album but at the first run through it quickly became one of my favorites.
Last December totally defines who he is as an insanely capable musician.


thumbs up!
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Reply #44 posted 02/18/10 12:46pm

Empress

Musically, TRC is genius IMO. It's his best work in years. Listen to the guitar work. It's awesome.

Lyrically, it's whack. I hate all the religious mumbo-jumbo. So unnecessary for a musician with such great talent.
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Reply #45 posted 02/18/10 2:11pm

LondonStyle

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ernestsewell said:

It's


horrible, preachy,
racist, and sets
religion back 100
years.


This is the biggest lie siince iraq had wmd's.....
Face it people prince has been singing about god since 1978 ... Get over it ... Prince has never hidden his faith .... When did a black man born in 1958 in the usa become racist...thats just bulls***
Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
James Brown & Michael Jackson RIP, your music still lives with us!
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Reply #46 posted 02/18/10 2:15pm

LondonStyle

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oh TRC is great and will forever be in the top 10 greatest Cd's he has ever released...
Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
James Brown & Michael Jackson RIP, your music still lives with us!
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Reply #47 posted 02/18/10 2:27pm

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ernestsewell said:

It's a work of art, informative, unifying, and sets religion back to the birth of insanity.




cool
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Reply #48 posted 02/18/10 3:16pm

Aaron6

Great album 2 get Blaze to blunt I thought "Last December" could have been a great hit single! biggrin The musical arrangement to this song is bananas! music Aaron6ix
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Reply #49 posted 02/18/10 3:24pm

TheVoid

I need to force myself to listen to it from beginning to end again.

I can't play any songs on it all the way through anymore. Not a single one.
I haven't attempted playing any in a very long time, so maybe I should try now.


It's got really brilliant parts in it, but the songs are just so long
and so boring...and Darth Vader telling the story is a turnoff.
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Reply #50 posted 02/18/10 4:23pm

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LATEST opinions? The album is TEN years OLD!! For crying out loud!
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Reply #51 posted 02/18/10 8:27pm

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

Still sucks.
Its not like dog turd that eventually dries up and becomes a nourishment for plants and bugs and stuff, it still stinks and wont make no plant grow or bugs eat it.

The consensus seems to be that fams will say they that they..."originally hated it!" but upon forced listening were able to brainwash themselves into submission. Like when you walk into the monkey house and think "whats that smell!" half hour later you got used to it.
The point being, never stay in the monkey house so long as to ever get used to shit like this.
[Edited 2/16/10 22:19pm]


Thats nice, compare Princes work to shit...
"Raow Raow. Meow Moaw."
"Shut up Sterling!"
"U no eye <3 U."
pussy
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Reply #52 posted 02/18/10 9:37pm

ernestsewell

KatSkrizzle said:

LATEST opinions? The album is TEN years OLD!! For crying out loud!

Because if you read the thread, instead of just the original post, you can see that some opinions have changed about this "controversial" album over the years.

And it's just over eight years old, having been released in November 2001. Ten years will be November 2011, well over a year and a half from now.
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Reply #53 posted 02/18/10 10:20pm

NelsonR

it symbolises Prince at a stage where the instruments and instrumental sound took center place in the production process
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Reply #54 posted 02/18/10 10:23pm

Paris9748430

LondonStyle said:

ernestsewell said:

It's


horrible, preachy,
racist, and sets
religion back 100
years.


This is the biggest lie siince iraq had wmd's.....
Face it people prince has been singing about god since 1978 ... Get over it ... Prince has never hidden his faith .... When did a black man born in 1958 in the usa become racist...thats just bulls***



Exactly. Prince put the Lord's Prayer in one of his most popular songs.

Probably mentions God as much as any secular artist does.

During the Purple Rain Tour he said that "There's only one Lord, Jesus".

People talk about Prince using the theme of a "Universal God" in his music, but that's a load of bullshit.

He's had Christian Religious imagery in his music since the very beginning.

I'm not even gonna dignify the racism accusations, because it's just stupid!!!
JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!!
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Reply #55 posted 02/19/10 8:36am

LondonStyle

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Paris9748430 said:

LondonStyle said:



This is the biggest lie siince iraq had wmd's.....
Face it people prince has been singing about god since 1978 ... Get over it ... Prince has never hidden his faith .... When did a black man born in 1958 in the usa become racist...thats just bulls***



Exactly. Prince put the Lord's Prayer in one of his most popular songs.

Probably mentions God as much as any secular artist does.

During the Purple Rain Tour he said that "There's only one Lord, Jesus".

People talk about Prince using the theme of a "Universal God" in his music, but that's a load of bullshit.

He's had Christian Religious imagery in his music since the very beginning.

I'm not even gonna dignify the racism accusations, because it's just stupid!!!


I'm glad not everyone on the org follows the music media, who made this whole TRC is racist and anti-jewish rubbish up ... I find it hard to understand why this lie keeps being told by so called "fans" of his music...

And your so right in pointing out prince has talked about God from day one ... why people are shocked to hear Christian Religious themes in his music still makes me go crazy.... lol
Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
James Brown & Michael Jackson RIP, your music still lives with us!
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Reply #56 posted 02/19/10 8:48am

ernestsewell

LondonStyle said:

ernestsewell said:

It's


horrible, preachy,
racist, and sets
religion back 100
years.


This is the biggest lie siince iraq had wmd's.....
Face it people prince has been singing about god since 1978 ... Get over it ... Prince has never hidden his faith .... When did a black man born in 1958 in the usa become racist...thats just bulls***

Prince before 2000 and after 2000 are two totally different things, and you know it.
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Reply #57 posted 02/19/10 9:10am

vivid

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I need to force myself to listen to it from beginning to end again.

I can't play any songs on it all the way through anymore. Not a single one.
I haven't attempted playing any in a very long time, so maybe I should try now.


It's got really brilliant parts in it, but the songs are just so long
and so boring...and Darth Vader telling the story is a turnoff.



Come over to mine - I'll tie you down, and slip in the disc.
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Reply #58 posted 02/19/10 9:21am

2elijah

ernestsewell said:

It's horrible, preachy, racist, and sets religion back 100 years.

lol I don't find it racist at all.
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Reply #59 posted 02/19/10 9:23am

ernestsewell

2elijah said:

ernestsewell said:

It's horrible, preachy, racist, and sets religion back 100 years.

lol I don't find it racist at all.

Laugh all you want, but it's true. There is nothing redeeming about that record.
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