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Thread started 02/14/10 4:31pm

vman4639

My new Cloud Guitar

I posted a thread a few months ago asking if I should go with a Cloud or the Hohner remake. I went for the Cloud. I followed Prince Oz's lead and had Don Bell make one for me. He was great to work with and the turn-around time was pretty quick. I guess since he's already built one he has all the forms and such that he needs.

The guitar is very well made - it looks great. It's also very playable. The only other electric I have is a Fender Strat American Deluxe. In comparing the two sound wise, I'd say the Strat has a deeper, more bluesy tone. The Cloud is not as deep, but sounds tighter / has more bite with distortion. Also, the Cloud on a clean channel with some Chorus sounds very Prince-like.

The guitar is a little smaller than my Strat, the neck being about 1/2 a fret shorter. Don said the guitar is based on a Les Paul size, and it's certainly not difficult to play. I have the 2 guitars side by side in a photo.

It's funny, thinking back to when I was 14 years old and watching Purple Rain for the first time - I never thought I'd have a chance to own that guitar (much less be able to play it biggrin ).

Let me know what you think.....

Some picks (I like the coffin case!):




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Reply #1 posted 02/14/10 4:41pm

BlackbeltJones

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Thanks for sharing your pics! It looks great... you must be having a blast right now. biggrin Enjoy your new guitar!

How much does it weigh btw? You got a strap picked out for it yet?
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Reply #2 posted 02/14/10 4:43pm

Vendetta1

Very nice. Your Fender looks just like my left handed Fender.
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Reply #3 posted 02/14/10 4:44pm

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SWEET! nod
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Reply #4 posted 02/14/10 4:47pm

Efan

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Nice pics! I would feel happy every time I looked at that guitar, let alone played it.
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Reply #5 posted 02/14/10 4:55pm

vman4639

BlackbeltJones said:

Thanks for sharing your pics! It looks great... you must be having a blast right now. biggrin Enjoy your new guitar!

How much does it weigh btw? You got a strap picked out for it yet?


Using bathroom scale math, it looks like 6.5 lbs. It's light.

I have a standard black strap I use for the Fender / sharing time now with the Cloud. I'm looking for advice for a strap on the Cloud. And no, I am not getting a white fuzzy strap, nor am I getting leopard-print....
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Reply #6 posted 02/14/10 4:57pm

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absolutely beautiful!!
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The Deluxe 'Purple Rain' Reissue

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Reply #7 posted 02/14/10 5:12pm

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vman4639 said:

BlackbeltJones said:

Thanks for sharing your pics! It looks great... you must be having a blast right now. biggrin Enjoy your new guitar!

How much does it weigh btw? You got a strap picked out for it yet?


Using bathroom scale math, it looks like 6.5 lbs. It's light.

I have a standard black strap I use for the Fender / sharing time now with the Cloud. I'm looking for advice for a strap on the Cloud. And no, I am not getting a white fuzzy strap, nor am I getting leopard-print....


Wow, that is light. My Les Paul weighs a ton (nearly 10 lbs!). Must feel great to play.

Straps are tricky... so much so that I said "to hell with it" myself and went with a boring black strap.

Congrats though. Looks fantastic!
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Reply #8 posted 02/14/10 5:39pm

sirweasel

Congrats!! That's cool
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Reply #9 posted 02/14/10 11:35pm

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Looks really great. You went with the dot fret markers I see. wink Dude, you have to get a leopard print strap, though. The coffin case gives me visions of a Prince fan playing in a Misfits cover band. biggrin



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Reply #10 posted 02/14/10 11:45pm

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BlackbeltJones said:

vman4639 said:



Using bathroom scale math, it looks like 6.5 lbs. It's light.

I have a standard black strap I use for the Fender / sharing time now with the Cloud. I'm looking for advice for a strap on the Cloud. And no, I am not getting a white fuzzy strap, nor am I getting leopard-print....


Wow, that is light. My Les Paul weighs a ton (nearly 10 lbs!). Must feel great to play.

Straps are tricky... so much so that I said "to hell with it" myself and went with a boring black strap.

Congrats though. Looks fantastic!


I've got an Epiphone Les Paul, and that thing is a tank. I love the sound, so I looked for the similarly configured but lighter SG and wound up with a very light neck-through Epi with a Paul Reed Smith type of body. My Cloud doesn't get played, but it is light as a feather compared to all my other guitars.
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Reply #11 posted 02/14/10 11:46pm

zaza

Very cool! I wish I had more money..
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Reply #12 posted 02/15/10 12:05am

Bordi

I live in Aus and im interested in buying one. How much did it cost you? It looks great. the finish is immaculate. Congrats.
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Reply #13 posted 02/15/10 5:19am

vman4639

squirrelgrease said:[quote]Looks really great. You went with the dot fret markers I see. wink Dude, you have to get a leopard print strap, though. The coffin case gives me visions of a Prince fan playing in a Misfits cover band. biggrin

w/r/t the fret markers. Yeah, in the end I wanted the guitar to match the one in the movie.

Leopard strap? I just don't think I can pull that off. You want me to wear heals, leg warmers, and bikini briefs as well eek? Not likely.....
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Reply #14 posted 02/15/10 5:25am

vman4639

Bordi said:

I live in Aus and im interested in buying one. How much did it cost you? It looks great. the finish is immaculate. Congrats.


I paid $2,500 USD for it. Not bad when you consider it's a handmade custom guitar from an independent luthier. Also, it's pretty close to the original w/r/t pickups, neck is not a bolt on, etc.

He'll do any color you want, and has the symbol fret markers if you prefer those.

Don Bell's e-mail: spoonful4@live.com

Let me know if you get one - I'd be interested in what color you order, fret markers, etc.
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Reply #15 posted 02/15/10 6:02am

Graycap23

Me likes.....make that, me LOVES.
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Reply #16 posted 02/15/10 6:30am

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That is GORGEOUS!! love
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Reply #17 posted 02/15/10 6:58am

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That is BEAUTIFUL!
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Reply #18 posted 02/15/10 12:21pm

polkadotbliss

S-T-U-N-N-I-N-G

I want it wink

man it would look cool next to my Hohner
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Reply #19 posted 02/15/10 12:40pm

squirrelgrease

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vman4639 said:[quote]

squirrelgrease said:

Looks really great. You went with the dot fret markers I see. wink Dude, you have to get a leopard print strap, though. The coffin case gives me visions of a Prince fan playing in a Misfits cover band. biggrin

w/r/t the fret markers. Yeah, in the end I wanted the guitar to match the one in the movie.

Leopard strap? I just don't think I can pull that off. You want me to wear heals, leg warmers, and bikini briefs as well eek? Not likely.....


Well, what you do in the privacy of your own home is your business. razz

One thing I would maybe do is replace the Don Bell truss adjust cover with something more subtle. Maybe a beveled brass plate or a plain black piece. The longer horn on the headstock is perfectly replicated as far as I can tell. Schecters have a shorter horn.
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Reply #20 posted 02/15/10 1:11pm

vman4639

squirrelgrease said:


One thing I would maybe do is replace the Don Bell truss adjust cover with something more subtle. Maybe a beveled brass plate or a plain black piece. The longer horn on the headstock is perfectly replicated as far as I can tell. Schecters have a shorter horn.


The Bell plate doesn't bother me - but I guess I could always flip it over if I wanted to..... On the horn - I hand't noticed that, but yeah you're right!
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Reply #21 posted 02/15/10 4:07pm

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squirrelgrease said:

BlackbeltJones said:



Wow, that is light. My Les Paul weighs a ton (nearly 10 lbs!). Must feel great to play.

Straps are tricky... so much so that I said "to hell with it" myself and went with a boring black strap.

Congrats though. Looks fantastic!


I've got an Epiphone Les Paul, and that thing is a tank. I love the sound, so I looked for the similarly configured but lighter SG and wound up with a very light neck-through Epi with a Paul Reed Smith type of body. My Cloud doesn't get played, but it is light as a feather compared to all my other guitars.


Les Paul's are notoriously heavy. The heavy wood is the reason they have so much natural sustain though. It's a backbreaker of a fucking guitar though. I wouldn't ever want to have to play one live.
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Reply #22 posted 02/15/10 4:20pm

Tame

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Beautiful. cool
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Reply #23 posted 02/15/10 5:22pm

squirrelgrease

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gamera said:

squirrelgrease said:



I've got an Epiphone Les Paul, and that thing is a tank. I love the sound, so I looked for the similarly configured but lighter SG and wound up with a very light neck-through Epi with a Paul Reed Smith type of body. My Cloud doesn't get played, but it is light as a feather compared to all my other guitars.


Les Paul's are notoriously heavy. The heavy wood is the reason they have so much natural sustain though. It's a backbreaker of a fucking guitar though. I wouldn't ever want to have to play one live.


I'm always amazed at guitarists that can play entire shows with a Les Paul. Slash and Danny Murphy from Soul Asylum have done that for years. Prince had that L6-S Deluxe for a while, but it's a featherweight compared to the Les. At least until he started adding lights, switches and different pieces of wood.

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Reply #24 posted 02/15/10 5:31pm

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squirrelgrease said:

gamera said:



Les Paul's are notoriously heavy. The heavy wood is the reason they have so much natural sustain though. It's a backbreaker of a fucking guitar though. I wouldn't ever want to have to play one live.


I'm always amazed at guitarists that can play entire shows with a Les Paul. Slash and Danny Murphy from Soul Asylum have done that for years. Prince had that L6-S Deluxe for a while, but it's a featherweight compared to the Les. At least until he started adding lights, switches and different pieces of wood.



Yeah that L6S has a thinner body profile and I think isn't made of solid maple. Also, you can see they actually cut away some of the body compared to the Les Paul to make it lighter.
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Reply #25 posted 02/15/10 5:34pm

GraffitiKid

Awesome!eek I would need it to be remade to a left handed model though..
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Reply #26 posted 02/15/10 10:15pm

squirrelgrease

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gamera said:

squirrelgrease said:



I'm always amazed at guitarists that can play entire shows with a Les Paul. Slash and Danny Murphy from Soul Asylum have done that for years. Prince had that L6-S Deluxe for a while, but it's a featherweight compared to the Les. At least until he started adding lights, switches and different pieces of wood.



Yeah that L6S has a thinner body profile and I think isn't made of solid maple. Also, you can see they actually cut away some of the body compared to the Les Paul to make it lighter.


Prince altered this guitar quite a bit. He had his tech/luthier remove the bottom horn, I guess for fret access - this was the first 24 fret Gibson. They also actually cut the whole back of the guitar off and replace it at one time. Probably to add the lights that surround the front of the body.

You can see where it was sliced apart and sandwiched back together here:



Sans horn:

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Reply #27 posted 02/16/10 7:24am

nursev

Very nice guitar-nice pics razz
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Reply #28 posted 02/20/10 7:00am

amerozzie

ivman4639 said:

I posted a thread a few months ago asking if I should go with a Cloud or the Hohner remake. I went for the Cloud. I followed Prince Oz's lead and had Don Bell make one for me. He was great to work with and the turn-around time was pretty quick. I guess since he's already built one he has all the forms and such that he needs.

The guitar is very well made - it looks great. It's also very playable. The only other electric I have is a Fender Strat American Deluxe. In comparing the two sound wise, I'd say the Strat has a deeper, more bluesy tone. The Cloud is not as deep, but sounds tighter / has more bite with distortion. Also, the Cloud on a clean channel with some Chorus sounds very Prince-like.

The guitar is a little smaller than my Strat, the neck being about 1/2 a fret shorter. Don said the guitar is based on a Les Paul size, and it's certainly not difficult to play. I have the 2 guitars side by side in a photo.

It's funny, thinking back to when I was 14 years old and watching Purple Rain for the first time - I never thought I'd have a chance to own that guitar (much less be able to play it biggrin ).

Let me know what you think.....

Some picks (I like the coffin case!):





hi this is prince oz,,,,i have the first one from don bell pics r in the post,,,,i love the guitar ,,,,you'll get the women,,,plus the sound is tight
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Reply #29 posted 02/20/10 7:01am

amerozzie

enjoy it,,,don bell makes the best,,,,i love my cloud,,,,prince oz
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