Well, I actually wrote Tom Joyner after he did that on the radio and this is what I got back from him when he wrote me back.


What up, Jimmy!

We talked to Prince on the TJMS a couple years ago when the "Musicology" CD came out and he said at that time that he really wasn't comfortable being on the ship.

Tom




Message = Do you think that Prince having such a large asking price for you could have anything to do with what you said to him back when Michael Jackson was having legal problems that you thought that He would be the one with such problems and not Michael??? Although the joy that you and Jay seem to have in talking about his supposed hip replacement problems definitely has not helped your case. Maybe he just doesn't feel comfortable on a cruise ship. He has play the State of the Black Union so maybe you should get young Tavis to ask him. Maybe you should get him and others to come up with a song for Haiti as well.
See I didn't think that Tom had been fair to Prince in a interview from back when he had interviewed him during the Musicology tour.
[Edited 2/12/10 5:23am]

jimmyrogertodd said:

All that may be true but if Prince was offended by any of it then it would have made more sense if he had just declined. Agreeing to do Tom's cruise for any fee, if he really has hard feelings about what Tom has said, in a way puts a price tag on his dignity and I think that makes the whole thing worse.

sweething said:

Yeah, Prince does so much of them! Like ... uhm...

Here's a hint: if your point is that Prince "has to start choosing charitable contributions otherwise they'll go broke", you better have a looooong list ready of Prince doing charitable work.

Well, I actually wrote Tom Joyner after he did that on the radio and this is what I got back from him when he wrote me back.


What up, Jimmy!

We talked to Prince on the TJMS a couple years ago when the "Musicology" CD came out and he said at that time that he really wasn't comfortable being on the ship.

Tom




Message = Do you think that Prince having such a large asking price for you could have anything to do with what you said to him back when Michael Jackson was having legal problems that you thought that He would be the one with such problems and not Michael??? Although the joy that you and Jay seem to have in talking about his supposed hip replacement problems definitely has not helped your case. Maybe he just doesn't feel comfortable on a cruise ship. He has play the State of the Black Union so maybe you should get young Tavis to ask him. Maybe you should get him and others to come up with a song for Haiti as well.
See I didn't think that Tom had been fair to Prince in a interview from back when he had interviewed him during the Musicology tour.
[Edited 2/12/10 5:23am]

Where is this antagonism towards Tom Joyner coming from? Have I missed something. Asking for that much money for a charity cruise is a bit much.

BartVanHemelen said:

Major FAIL, Bart. Prince gives quite a bit 2 various charities, and does so in the same fashion as Sinatra did... low-key, anonymously, with no publicity.

TJ is in the business of making money...believe it...who is he fooling--no one. Peep this, TJ's going to ask Prince to "up" his (TJ's) profile (and you know that's what that was about) and then try to cheap Prince out...then to add insult to injury...go around talking about it...whew...TJ needs to quit it.

BartVanHemelen said:

Major FAIL, Bart. Prince gives quite a bit 2 various charities, and does so in the same fashion as Sinatra did... low-key, anonymously, with no publicity.

So once again, CJ is pulling shit out of her ass.

Anyone that puts one ounce of stock in anything CJ says about Prince is a damn fool.

Giovanni777 said:

Not the point, and you know it. sweething was clearly talking about public engagements.

Also, Prince could have just declined.

TJ is in the business of making money...believe it...who is he fooling--no one. Peep this, TJ's going to ask Prince to "up" his (TJ's) profile (and you know that's what that was about) and then try to cheap Prince out...then to add insult to injury...go around talking about it...whew...TJ needs to quit it.

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5. Tom may have been tacky in putting him on blast but when family is talking to family about family, that what the fuck it takes sometimes!!!

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

That tactic has.....and will NEVER work on Prince.

Graycap23 said:

It doesn't have to work...on Prince!

RodeoSchro said:

Try reading the article. CJ talks about Joyner talking ON AIR about this. But you rather put trust in what some dude says on a forum. let's see: unknown dude on forum vs celebrity in public.

sweething said:

Just when I was doing so well at trying to be nice.

1. Tom Joyner doesn't need Prince to "up his profile"! He has a DAILY radio listenership in the millions!!!



2. Tom Joyner is one of the very FEW radio personalities that knows who Prince is. Remembers who Prince was and will play his current output regardless to how sad it is, on radio stations throughout the country that otherwise wouldn't be bothered to fit it in their playlists of current crap because the truth of the matter is, regardless to what the Fams on this board think, Prince IS considered Ol' School in the industry AND his current output just doesn't provide the IT factor that is required to separate it from the rest of the drivel!



3. The overwhelming majority of Tom Joyner's listenership consists of an audience that will always love Prince like that cool brother we grew up with but hasn't connected to in quite some time!



4. Doing the cruise would have reconnected Prince with the audience that got him through his beginning but he lost years ago because he needed to be free to be him, whether they agreed and liked it or not, so they let him!



The memories of the good times they shared with him through his past music has always garnered an invitation back into the fold but it's been up to him to come correct! Which he has proven time and time again that he is incapable of doing on his own!



5. Tom may have been tacky in putting him on blast but when family is talking to family about family, that's what the fuck it takes sometimes!!!


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[Edited 2/12/10 13:15pm]

There's an easy way to come to terms with all of this...Prince should just go down to the dock and sing, "Get on the Boat." And Tom would just have to Pay Prince 10,000 dollars.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

So...what? Prince makes $, and...



It is so...and how is the radio stuff another issue when we are talking about radio stuff?



I didn't say he did.



Ok?



It means try not to come acting like an ass!



I don't know what community you're talking about but where I'm from being called out on your shit is nothing new! Calling it "being put on blast" is!

No matter how big you get or think you are, those that TRULY love you, will break you down to your motherfucking socks, if that's what NEEDS to be done!

While charity is always good, it can be done privately and anonymously. Doing a tacky cruise ship gig for a D list radio DJ is never a good idea ....for a garage band or even a wedding singer even, it's something you do because you HAVE TO. Because your house is in foreclosure or need a new kidney or something.....like being a stripper to put yourself through college.

I know this is all just rumors, but in general if a friend wants to donate money to your charity it's good,.... to supposedly publicly dog a famous *friend for not doing your tacky gig well that's as tacky as tacky can ever be.

If TJ could come up with something a little more dignifying than this Private Joy cruise ship thing, like a BBQ or Tupperware party i think Prince might go for it. To be stuck in the middle of the ocean in a boat full of sweaty middle aged fat people swear you wouldn't be asking for a million bucks yourself, c'mon lets be real.
Nowadays I could picture Prince a lot happier on Alan Keys Liberty cruise party anyways.
[Edited 2/12/10 19:19pm]