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Reply #30 posted 02/09/10 12:24pm

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Not a resequencing but I put together a CD of tracks from the Dream factory era that make a great album, it's partly inspired by the great Crucial boot.

Dream Factory
Train
Splash
Power Fantastic
Crucial (From Crystal Ball with a fade at the end)
Sexual Suicide
Last Heart
Witness 4 The Prosecution (Wendy And lisa Version)
Old Friends 4 Sale (Clare Fischer version from 1985)
All My Dreams

Would have loved to included In A Large Room but the sound quality isn't up to scratch.

This is a perfect bridge between Parade and Sign O The Times.
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Reply #31 posted 02/09/10 2:08pm

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BlackbeltJones said:

squirrelgrease said:

Good thread idea. I'd like to add that in the vinyl days, sequencing often had more to do with the actual frequencies of a given series of songs on a record than how well they flowed together, or the vision of the recording artist. Songs with a lot of treble built in almost always had to be on the outer ring of the record to faithfully reproduce the best sound. So that would dictate the song be either the leadoff track on side A, or relegated to side B(first track). As the stylus gets closer to the center of the record, higher frequencies and loudness start to become dull. Quieter ballads are often on the inside of an LP. This was an engineering issue throughout the history of vinyl mastering, and the better production houses adhered to that recipe.

Once the CD came along, the artist's vision as to sequencing could actually be closer realized, but due to it's capacity, also eventually lead to what some feel are bloated "filler" heavy releases.


Wow, I never knew the technical limitations of the format actually determined sequencing. Very very interesting read! All this time I figured it had everything to do with song flow. It creates another interesting hurdle for the artist to overcome. Knowing an album has to flow a certain way due to vinyl specs, I wonder how many vinyl era artists took that in to consideration when writing and/or choosing songs that make the cut?

Did this rule change at all as cassette tapes became dominate, or was it fairly well maintained throughout the 80s until CD became the dominate format?
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I think with cassettes, they were always considered a second-tier medium by the recording industry while vinyl and tape co-existed. For a while, tapes did outsell vinyl, but the sequencing was usually based on the vinyl layout. There are of course many oddly sequenced cassettes when compared to their vinyl counterparts, since the frequency limitations didn't apply. I can't think of any Prince tapes that were out of sequence in relation to the LPs. Maybe Sign O The Times and/or 1999 had differently arranged tracks. There was a Dirty Mind/Controversy 2-for-1 cassette made, but the tracks were contiguous.
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Reply #32 posted 02/09/10 2:09pm

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Great topic. Sequencing is HUGELY important to an album's overall success from an artistic standpoint, IMHO.

Prince is hit or miss from a sequencing standpoint. Some are perfect, some are awful.

The worst is Rave. The material is there, but the sequencing is terrible.

This is my version:

Prince: Beautiful Strange

1. The Greatest Romance Ever Sold
2. Strange But True
3. ManOwar
4. Baby Knows
5. Silly Game
6. Beautiful Strange
7. Tangerine
8. The Sun, Moon and Stars
9. Undisputed
10. Prettyman
11. So Far, So Pleased
12. I Love U, But I Don't Trust U Anymore
13. Wherever U Go, Whatever U Do

Singles:

1. Baby Knows
2. So Far, So Pleased
3. Wherever U Go, Whatever U Do
4. The Greatest Romance Ever Sold
* * *

Prince's Classic Finally Expanded
The Deluxe 'Purple Rain' Reissue

http://www.popmatters.com...n-reissue/
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Reply #33 posted 02/09/10 2:15pm

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Emancipation:

1. Jam of the Year
2. In This Bed I Scream
3. Damned If I Do
4. Joint 2 Joint
5. Curious Child
6. Dreamin' About U
7. The Love We Make
8. The Holy River
9. Soul Sanctuary
10. Savior
11. New World
12. Sleep Around
13. Emancipation
* * *

Prince's Classic Finally Expanded
The Deluxe 'Purple Rain' Reissue

http://www.popmatters.com...n-reissue/
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Reply #34 posted 02/09/10 2:48pm

NONSENSE

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Reply #35 posted 02/09/10 2:53pm

jerkout

1. 3121
2. Ol'Skool Company
3. Chelsea Rodgers
4. Dance 4 Me
5. Black Sweat
6. Valentina
7. F.U.N.K.
8. $
9. Feel Better, Feel Good, Feel Wonderful

It flows great and gives me a new found appreciation for his latest work.
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Reply #36 posted 02/09/10 4:11pm

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squirrelgrease said:

I think with cassettes, they were always considered a second-tier medium by the recording industry while vinyl and tape co-existed. For a while, tapes did outsell vinyl, but the sequencing was usually based on the vinyl layout. There are of course many oddly sequenced cassettes when compared to their vinyl counterparts, since the frequency limitations didn't apply. I can't think of any Prince tapes that were out of sequence in relation to the LPs. Maybe Sign O The Times and/or 1999 had differently arranged tracks. There was a Dirty Mind/Controversy 2-for-1 cassette made, but the tracks were contiguous.


Thanks for the clarification. When I started to buy a lot of music, walkmans were hitting big... so it was cassettes all the way. I remember how ATWIAD had the cool "see through" cassette. Did I ever think THAT was some hot shit, especially sitting next to that low rent looking Dirty Mind/Controversy 2-for-1 cassette.

I will say I miss the care free days of pouring over those tiny little cassette liner notes, thinking to myself: "Hot Damn, that Bernie Grundman mastered this album too!" (As if I had a clue what "mastering" was. But I knew this Bernie Grundman had to be a bad ass at it). Ahh, youth.

Great sequences everybody... can't wait to try some of these out!
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