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Reply #120 posted 01/17/10 3:49am

vivid

LilCub said:

This post just goes to show that you have no idea what "gay" is.

I am gay and can tell you that not all of us run around in drag and have loads of fag hags in tow. Some of us, like myself, are just normal everyday masculine MEN who happen to like MEN.

There's no way that Prince is gay. He likes his women too much and anyway who cares if he is? Like most men he may have had an experience with a man in his life or adolescence but is that really any of our business?

We love him for his music not his bedroom habits.


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Reply #121 posted 01/17/10 5:40am

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Sometimes I would actually wish Prince infact was gay, then people would stop all the speculating.

IF he was gay it wouldn't change a thing for me, my views on him wouldn't change a bit.

But I know he is straight and of course not gay, I mean all these beautiful ladies he has been dating in the past, I'm kind of jealous, lol.

Gay - or not, it does not mean a thing, wink
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Reply #122 posted 01/17/10 6:17am

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If people just thought logically about this then we wouldn't need to have topics like this.

It's like this, people:

1) Is there any significant, tangible evidence to suggest that Prince is gay? No.

2) Is there any significant, tangible evidence to suggest that Prince is straight? Yes, a fucking shitload.

It's really that simple, folks.
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Reply #123 posted 01/17/10 6:24am

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funkylust said:

I just have to chime in here on this topic as its an area I know a thing or 2 about. I think this contributes to the topic regarding Prince.

Just because a guy is in touch with his feminine side (clothes, make up, dance moves etc) DOES NOT mean that he is necessarily attracted to men sexually. There is nothing wrong with feminine type gay men, but ALL GAY MEN are not feminine. This is a major misconception in society. Gay men are a spectrum (rainbow if you will) of diversity. I think this is one reason why folks are confused, when they meet a 'so called straight acting gay man'. I know the gay community very well and I would estimate that the feminine types are only a small percentage of the gay population and there is a whole spectrum or range of every type imaginable. So please don't fall into the trap of thinking so simplistically if you see a guy who is in touch with his feminine side or who likes to dress in a different way or whatever, that this is linked to how he is as a sexual being. Same with women by the way, I know there is another stereo type that lesbians are all butch but they are not. So called 'lipstick lesbians are also out there and a whole range of other types of people.

People are intimidated by what they don't understand. People think gay people can 'recruit' people into being gay. Being gay is not a choice, choosing to live your life in the closet IS a choice. Belonging to a church IS a choice. I have nothing against people's choices, but you can't recruit someone into WHO THEY ARE. Thats why people (particularly in America) are intimidated by gay people who don't fit neatly into the stereotypes of either a feminine gay guy or butch lesbian. This is also a major reason why there are so many people still in the closet afraid to be themselves because they to are caught up with the stereotypes and they look at themselves and think 'hey i am attracted to the same sex but i am not Jack from Will and Grace, I am just like my buddies, what am i? What's wrong with me?' And they suppress themselves in an unhealthy way. Hell I have friends who are straight but are very comfortable with their feminine side and are not so insecure that they have to 'put on an act' to look tough. The best advice I could ever give anyway discovering themselves is BE YOURSELF.

For God's sake, don't reinforce the stereotypes. Be open to diversity in the true sense of the word. Even the gay community itself is jaded and non accepting of difference, if you don't fit the look, there is something wrong with you. Stop this and stop judging and compartmentalizing. Accept there is always someone out there who is different and thats okay. Gay/Straight isn't black and white, night and day. There are hundreds of 'shades of grey' in between. You don't have to understand them all, just accept, you don't have to be either way way or another. Its okay to be in the middle, be bi-sexual! This is one of the most misunderstood and unaccepted groups of all (from both men and women).

Back to Prince. Prince is in touch with both sides of himself. He is not afraid to go there. You are. You are uncomfortable and Prince is completely at ease. I think everyone should explore themselves, you never know what you may find, this is part of the human condition. Don't contribute to the stupidity of gay stereotypes. Open your mind.

I don't want to see or hear anymore references to the 'Gay Boy Dancer' moves, the Camille outfits or the Lovesexy album cover. None of these things make Prince gay. Prince is Prince and we love him for it. No more boundaries. Don't be afraid. Accept others for who they are. If you need to bitch and moan and worry, then look in the mirror.

thank you!

rainbow
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Reply #124 posted 01/17/10 6:57am

Styles

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You know....

I personally find all of this incredibly insightful....

There is one thing I'd like to add to, though...

I'm straight, but I have an incredible love for the history of music: If you think about it, HE has made himself into being the composite of everything that he has ever admired. Therefore: It only took the 7th time of seeing him live, wailing on the guitar in those boots that were in complete command of the wah-wah pedal to get it...and did I ever!

I just shook my head in disbelief and thought to myself: "Yeah, I'd love to be that guy right now".....because its completly ROCK STAR!!!!!

peace

Jshua
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Reply #125 posted 01/17/10 8:05am

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Militant said:

If people just thought logically about this then we wouldn't need to have topics like this.

It's like this, people:

1) Is there any significant, tangible evidence to suggest that Prince is gay? No.

2) Is there any significant, tangible evidence to suggest that Prince is straight? Yes, a fucking shitload.

It's really that simple, folks.

You could say the same about Tom Cruise. confused
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Reply #126 posted 01/17/10 8:31am

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I really don't understand why folk get so bent out of shape on this subject. Either side.

If you think he's gay, think so or say so and carry on. If you don't think he's gay, the same. Why do people lose their damn minds and bring threads to a halt over such stupid stupid shit? Really. neutral

To the folk who are so hellbent on defending Prince's heterosexuality:
If y'all didn't get so riled up over it, there would be a lot less Prince is Gay posting (or at least debates would not get as heated). You're giving folk a giggle by doing so and if you give people a laugh, they'll come back for more.
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Reply #127 posted 01/17/10 8:42am

ernestsewell

vivid said:

LilCub said:

This post just goes to show that you have no idea what "gay" is.

I am gay and can tell you that not all of us run around in drag and have loads of fag hags in tow. Some of us, like myself, are just normal everyday masculine MEN who happen to like MEN.

There's no way that Prince is gay. He likes his women too much and anyway who cares if he is? Like most men he may have had an experience with a man in his life or adolescence but is that really any of our business?

We love him for his music not his bedroom habits.


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I agree. He's likes the pussy. All these bitches he's bedded and dated..that ain't 30 years of covering up.....that's 30 years of "his tongue in the V of her love".
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Reply #128 posted 01/17/10 9:07am

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ernestsewell said:

vivid said:



Co-sign

I agree. He's likes the pussy. All these bitches he's bedded and dated..that ain't 30 years of covering up.....that's 30 years of "his tongue in the V of her love".

Hand to God? wink


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Reply #129 posted 01/17/10 9:42am

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One More Time, And I live in the Halsted area in Chicago. Where heavy Gay population is at. When I made this post it was to let people know how not to judge people. I was not talking about the whole gay community as being feminine. Last night I sat down with my stepbrother and showed him this thread. He didn't think that I said anything wrong on Prince. He knew that I was trying to find a reason as to why people call Prince gay. You guys NEVER trash the person's thread that said "Prince is Grey" and all nonsense talk about how Bria looks like a man, but when someone comes around and tries to find reason on why you THINK Prince is gay... you all flame away and had luv4u almost lock my thread. And I can't speak for her, but I think she's really trying not to lock it. Prince if you are reading this, you are a really awesome person. You look at controversy and wipe it off your shoulder. And I hope that when I become an actor and have a unofficial fan site, that my fans won't treat me like SOME of your "fans" do you . Over and Im out. I leave this thread to the mercy of luv4u.
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Reply #130 posted 01/17/10 12:34pm

JayJai

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johnart said:

I really don't understand why folk get so bent out of shape on this subject. Either side.

If you think he's gay, think so or say so and carry on. If you don't think he's gay, the same. Why do people lose their damn minds and bring threads to a halt over such stupid stupid shit? Really. neutral

To the folk who are so hellbent on defending Prince's heterosexuality:
If y'all didn't get so riled up over it, there would be a lot less Prince is Gay posting (or at least debates would not get as heated). You're giving folk a giggle by doing so and if you give people a laugh, they'll come back for more.

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Reply #131 posted 01/17/10 2:50pm

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johnart said:



To the folk who are so hellbent on defending Prince's heterosexuality:
If y'all didn't get so riled up over it, there would be a lot less Prince is Gay posting (or at least debates would not get as heated). You're giving folk a giggle by doing so and if you give people a laugh, they'll come back for more.


bingo.
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Reply #132 posted 01/17/10 2:54pm

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boogiebear said:

One More Time, And I live in the Halsted area in Chicago. Where heavy Gay population is at. When I made this post it was to let people know how not to judge people. I was not talking about the whole gay community as being feminine. Last night I sat down with my stepbrother and showed him this thread. He didn't think that I said anything wrong on Prince. He knew that I was trying to find a reason as to why people call Prince gay. You guys NEVER trash the person's thread that said "Prince is Grey" and all nonsense talk about how Bria looks like a man, but when someone comes around and tries to find reason on why you THINK Prince is gay... you all flame away and had luv4u almost lock my thread. And I can't speak for her, but I think she's really trying not to lock it. Prince if you are reading this, you are a really awesome person. You look at controversy and wipe it off your shoulder. And I hope that when I become an actor and have a unofficial fan site, that my fans won't treat me like SOME of your "fans" do you . Over and Im out. I leave this thread to the mercy of luv4u.
[Edited 1/17/10 9:45am]


i'mma letcha in on a lil' secret.

no one amongst us gay folk thinks prince is gay. we just like watching people get so riled up and angry over joking he is... because it shouldn't matter.

and the pics in question (ESPECIALLY the prince with pigtail looking at a male ass) are funny because it's absurd. no one is saying it is an indication of his sexuality.
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Reply #133 posted 01/17/10 3:04pm

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cborgman said:

boogiebear said:

One More Time, And I live in the Halsted area in Chicago. Where heavy Gay population is at. When I made this post it was to let people know how not to judge people. I was not talking about the whole gay community as being feminine. Last night I sat down with my stepbrother and showed him this thread. He didn't think that I said anything wrong on Prince. He knew that I was trying to find a reason as to why people call Prince gay. You guys NEVER trash the person's thread that said "Prince is Grey" and all nonsense talk about how Bria looks like a man, but when someone comes around and tries to find reason on why you THINK Prince is gay... you all flame away and had luv4u almost lock my thread. And I can't speak for her, but I think she's really trying not to lock it. Prince if you are reading this, you are a really awesome person. You look at controversy and wipe it off your shoulder. And I hope that when I become an actor and have a unofficial fan site, that my fans won't treat me like SOME of your "fans" do you . Over and Im out. I leave this thread to the mercy of luv4u.
[Edited 1/17/10 9:45am]


i'mma letcha in on a lil' secret.

no one amongst us gay folk thinks prince is gay. we just like watching people get so riled up and angry over joking he is... because it shouldn't matter.

and the pics in question (ESPECIALLY the prince with pigtail looking at a male ass) are funny because it's absurd. no one is saying it is an indication of his sexuality.


And there it is.
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Reply #134 posted 01/17/10 3:06pm

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[/quote]

i'mma letcha in on a lil' secret.

no one amongst us gay folk thinks prince is gay. we just like watching people get so riled up and angry over joking he is... because it shouldn't matter.

and the pics in question (ESPECIALLY the prince with pigtail looking at a male ass) are funny because it's absurd. no one is saying it is an indication of his sexuality.[/quote]

nod clapping
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The feeling you get when...

(you squeeze your balls?) no that's not it...
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Reply #135 posted 01/17/10 3:12pm

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and it also becomes that much funnier because he seems to have done a 180 on gay folk.

he used to play bi, as bowie did, to create a mystery around himself. he went out of his way in the 80s to play the lesbian vibe with wendy and lisa and the blond before her.

and then he gets super jesusy and suddenly is saying stupid shit like "i have gay friends and we read the bible together"

it just makes him look like a jackass, and it's funny to us.

if we can't be allowed to laugh at homophobia...
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Reply #136 posted 01/17/10 3:15pm

boogiebear

cborgman said:

boogiebear said:

One More Time, And I live in the Halsted area in Chicago. Where heavy Gay population is at. When I made this post it was to let people know how not to judge people. I was not talking about the whole gay community as being feminine. Last night I sat down with my stepbrother and showed him this thread. He didn't think that I said anything wrong on Prince. He knew that I was trying to find a reason as to why people call Prince gay. You guys NEVER trash the person's thread that said "Prince is Grey" and all nonsense talk about how Bria looks like a man, but when someone comes around and tries to find reason on why you THINK Prince is gay... you all flame away and had luv4u almost lock my thread. And I can't speak for her, but I think she's really trying not to lock it. Prince if you are reading this, you are a really awesome person. You look at controversy and wipe it off your shoulder. And I hope that when I become an actor and have a unofficial fan site, that my fans won't treat me like SOME of your "fans" do you . Over and Im out. I leave this thread to the mercy of luv4u.
[Edited 1/17/10 9:45am]


i'mma letcha in on a lil' secret.

no one amongst us gay folk thinks prince is gay. we just like watching people get so riled up and angry over joking he is... because it shouldn't matter.

and the pics in question (ESPECIALLY the prince with pigtail looking at a male ass) are funny because it's absurd. no one is saying it is an indication of his sexuality.






Ma'am How old are you? Kids get tease for these things like that at school. If the Adults that will set High standards and not, act childish it will not be any bully. It's not O.K to tease. And you're Wrong (not trying to offended).
I teach kids to respect it's a lot of kids like Prince and his Music. An that's my Opinion. I respect yours Thank You.
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Reply #137 posted 01/17/10 3:22pm

cborgman

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boogiebear said:

cborgman said:



i'mma letcha in on a lil' secret.

no one amongst us gay folk thinks prince is gay. we just like watching people get so riled up and angry over joking he is... because it shouldn't matter.

and the pics in question (ESPECIALLY the prince with pigtail looking at a male ass) are funny because it's absurd. no one is saying it is an indication of his sexuality.






Ma'am How old are you? Kids get tease for these things like that at school. If the Adults that will set High standards and not, act childish it will not be any bully. It's not O.K to tease. And you're Wrong (not trying to offended).
I teach kids to respect it's a lot of kids like Prince and his Music. An that's my Opinion. I respect yours Thank You.


my penis and i both are 32.

and i'm a gay man. i was out at 14. i know what's an acceptable level of gay tease and when it crosses a line.

most of the difference is the intent behind it. no one is saying prince is gay because they want to put him down, particularly when the people joking about it are, in fact, openly and unapologetically gay. we're making jokes about it because it drives the subtle homophobes out of the bushes and into the open so we can laugh at them for being idiots.

prince definitely fits into that category.
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Reply #138 posted 01/17/10 3:23pm

boogiebear

cborgman said:

and it also becomes that much funnier because he seems to have done a 180 on gay folk.

he used to play bi, as bowie did, to create a mystery around himself. he went out of his way in the 80s to play the lesbian vibe with wendy and lisa and the blond before her.

and then he gets super jesusy and suddenly is saying stupid shit like "i have gay friends and we read the bible together"

it just makes him look like a jackass, and it's funny to us.

if we can't be allowed to laugh at homophobia...
[Edited 1/17/10 15:14pm]



And.... look what you saying you telling me not to get riled up.
I don't understand he wanted to be a STAR.
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Reply #139 posted 01/17/10 3:25pm

boogiebear

cborgman said:

boogiebear said:







Ma'am How old are you? Kids get tease for these things like that at school. If the Adults that will set High standards and not, act childish it will not be any bully. It's not O.K to tease. And you're Wrong (not trying to offended).
I teach kids to respect it's a lot of kids like Prince and his Music. An that's my Opinion. I respect yours Thank You.


my penis and i both are 32.

and i'm a gay man. i was out at 14. i know what's an acceptable level of gay tease and when it crosses a line.

most of the difference is the intent behind it. no one is saying prince is gay because they want to put him down, particularly when the people joking about it are, in fact, openly and unapologetically gay. we're making jokes about it because it drives the subtle homophobes out of the bushes and into the open so we can laugh at them for being idiots.

prince definitely fits into that category.



I didn't know that I was looking at your Picture. But see how that offended
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Reply #140 posted 01/17/10 3:29pm

boogiebear

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i'mma letcha in on a lil' secret.

no one amongst us gay folk thinks prince is gay. we just like watching people get so riled up and angry over joking he is... because it shouldn't matter.

and the pics in question (ESPECIALLY the prince with pigtail looking at a male ass) are funny because it's absurd. no one is saying it is an indication of his sexuality.[/quote]

nod clapping[/quote]

And the thread was not about that!! I'am thinking this is a conspiracy. Because everything I say Prince being gay. PRINCE AIN"T GAY!!!!!
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Reply #141 posted 01/17/10 3:31pm

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boogiebear said:

funkylust said:


nod clapping


And the thread was not about that!! I'am thinking this is a conspiracy. Because everything say Prince being gay. PRINCE AIN"T GAY!!!!!


see... what's funny about this is that it is wigging you out enough to use caps and about 16 exclamation points.

and use of the term "conspiracy"
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Reply #142 posted 01/17/10 3:33pm

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and i don't even think it was your post that set people off as much as it was theright1's.

but now that the conspiracy gauntlet has been thrown, it is hard not to laugh.
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Reply #143 posted 01/17/10 3:37pm

boogiebear

cborgman said:

and i don't even think it was your post that set people off as much as it was theright1's.

but now that the conspiracy gauntlet has been thrown, it is hard not to laugh.





Don't do that I'am smart. GOd Bless You.
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Reply #144 posted 01/17/10 3:42pm

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When people ask me if I think Prince is gay I say, "He'd be the first gay man obsessed with oral and all things pussy that I've ever seen." shrug
Shake....shake, shake, shake.
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Reply #145 posted 01/17/10 3:48pm

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boogiebear said:

cborgman said:

and i don't even think it was your post that set people off as much as it was theright1's.

but now that the conspiracy gauntlet has been thrown, it is hard not to laugh.





Don't do that I'am smart. GOd Bless You.
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in all honesty, i am sure you are.

conspiracy, though? c'mon.
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Reply #146 posted 01/17/10 4:05pm

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cborgman said:

boogiebear said:







Ma'am How old are you? Kids get tease for these things like that at school. If the Adults that will set High standards and not, act childish it will not be any bully. It's not O.K to tease. And you're Wrong (not trying to offended).
I teach kids to respect it's a lot of kids like Prince and his Music. An that's my Opinion. I respect yours Thank You.


my penis and i both are 32.

and i'm a gay man. i was out at 14. i know what's an acceptable level of gay tease and when it crosses a line.

most of the difference is the intent behind it. no one is saying prince is gay because they want to put him down, particularly when the people joking about it are, in fact, openly and unapologetically gay. we're making jokes about it because it drives the subtle homophobes out of the bushes and into the open so we can laugh at them for being idiots.

prince definitely fits into that category.
I'm half straight. Can we make love down by the fire? mushy
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Reply #147 posted 01/17/10 4:23pm

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Vendetta1 said:

cborgman said:



my penis and i both are 32.

and i'm a gay man. i was out at 14. i know what's an acceptable level of gay tease and when it crosses a line.

most of the difference is the intent behind it. no one is saying prince is gay because they want to put him down, particularly when the people joking about it are, in fact, openly and unapologetically gay. we're making jokes about it because it drives the subtle homophobes out of the bushes and into the open so we can laugh at them for being idiots.

prince definitely fits into that category.
I'm half straight. Can we make love down by the fire? mushy

with you? hells yes.

i don't mind girly parts occasionally.
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Reply #148 posted 01/17/10 4:30pm

Vendetta1

cborgman said:

Vendetta1 said:

I'm half straight. Can we make love down by the fire? mushy

with you? hells yes.

i don't mind girly parts occasionally.
batting eyes
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Reply #149 posted 01/17/10 6:15pm

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Is Prince gay? No.

Reasons:
1. He has had too many GIRLfriends.
2. He has supported Prop 8
3. He is a JW.
4. He has openly said he is not gay in lyrics.
5. All of his love songs are dedicated to women he has had relationships with.
6. He has been married twice both times to women.
7. Not one person who has worked for him has ever come out and said he was gay, they have ALL said he is straight.


... the above statements are NOT homophobic. lol
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