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Thread started 11/16/09 8:15pm

pplrain

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Prince "Dreamer", do you guys like this song/lyrics?

Dreamer Lyrics

I was born, raised on the same plantation
In the United States, of the red, white and blue
Never knew that I was different, till Dr. King was on a balcony
Lyin' in a bloody pool
I expected so much more from a loving
A loving, loving society
A truthful explanation, you know what
I got another, another conspiracy

If it was just a dream, listen, call me, call me a dreamer too

With more rewards and accolades, then anyone before or after
21st century, oh what a shame, what a shame
Race, race still matters
A race to what, and where we going
We in the same boat, but I'm the only one rowing

Last time I checked, you were sleeping, but you can call me a dreamer too
(What's up with this)

Peanut butter logic, served on a bed of lies
Don't go down too easy, when you've seen your father cry
Have you ever clutched the steering wheel in your car too tight
Praying that police sirens just pass you by that night
While the helicopter circles us, this theory's getting deep
Think they're spraying chemicals over the city
While we sleep

Come on, I'm staying awake
you can call me a dreamer too
(Ahhh, I got one eye open for these devils)

(Wake up, wake up)

(I pledge allegiance, to..)



So what do you think was Prince's reason for writing this song?
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Reply #1 posted 11/16/09 8:27pm

muleFunk

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He was awakened.

Deep ass shit that won't fully be realized until he's gone.
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Reply #2 posted 11/16/09 8:32pm

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this song is the truth cool and the guitar work is rocking out hard go prince! headbang
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Reply #3 posted 11/16/09 8:34pm

violetblues

By far, his best song in at least 15 years, music and lyrics.
The live versions are incredible.
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Reply #4 posted 11/16/09 8:38pm

errant

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love it. but i try try to tune-out the tin-foil hat lyrics to some of his songs so that i can continue to enjoy them. this is one.
"does my cock look fat in these jeans?"
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Reply #5 posted 11/16/09 9:14pm

pplrain

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I think not only is Prince a great singer / song writer but also a wonderful poet. This song is deep, meaningful: he seems to be able to put how he feels about the music business / his world into a song and put his feelings on full blast.
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Reply #6 posted 11/16/09 9:38pm

pplrain

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errant said:

love it. but i try try to tune-out the tin-foil hat lyrics to some of his songs so that i can continue to enjoy them. this is one.



Can you elaborate on what you mean?
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Reply #7 posted 11/16/09 9:45pm

errant

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pplrain said:

errant said:

love it. but i try try to tune-out the tin-foil hat lyrics to some of his songs so that i can continue to enjoy them. this is one.



Can you elaborate on what you mean?



he sounds like he's been listening to a lot of Art Bell.
"does my cock look fat in these jeans?"
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Reply #8 posted 11/16/09 9:45pm

nosajd

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big fan of this song & the guitar solo is nice. I love the sound of the guitar too.
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Reply #9 posted 11/16/09 9:46pm

DesireeNevermi
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Of course this shit rocks. He speaks the truth. He just need to live it a lil mo.
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Reply #10 posted 11/16/09 11:56pm

Rebeljuice

i find the song boring and uninspired.
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Reply #11 posted 11/17/09 12:08am

sweething

Words of truth sometimes stick to the roof of one's mouth (kinda like peanutbutter) and are therefore are hard to swallow.

I like the song
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Reply #12 posted 11/17/09 12:56am

MyLawd

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one of Prince's most powerful songs ever

on a music and lyrical tip

Snare drum pound on the 2 & 4
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Reply #13 posted 11/17/09 1:27am

TyphoonTip

Derivative. Uninspired. Embarrassingly bad lyric.

Prince's impression of Ben Harper covering Hendrix.

One of the low points on an otherwise good album.
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Reply #14 posted 11/17/09 2:05am

vivid

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Derivative. Uninspired. Embarrassingly bad lyric.

Prince's impression of Ben Harper covering Hendrix.

One of the low points on an otherwise good album.


Yep. Have to agree. I love a lot of the album but not this one. Reminds me of Live 4 Love, which like Dreamer, should have been great, but is just a bit boring.
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Reply #15 posted 11/17/09 2:07am

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I like the lyrics and appreciate them being posted, otherwise I'd probably never read them. Song is too rocky for me. Glad to hear others enjoy it. Now bring on Beverley Park 77 please. cool
"Free URself, B the best that U can B, 3rd Apartment from the Sun, nothing left to fear" Prince Rogers Nelson - Forever in my Life -
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Reply #16 posted 11/17/09 2:47am

MyLawd

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'Dreamer' like all Prince's other tunes, should be examined individually
as works of art.

Many people, in analysing this song, automatically conjure or make links with Jimi Hendrix; some do this as if it is a sign of weakness or unoriginality.

To me, this is not the case. When ever there is a comparison made between Prince and Jimi, this is good...because it acknowledges Prince's ability to play music in the same vein as Jimi did on his guitar.

The lyrics are deep no matter what...and speak to 'experiences' some humans have; they also play w/ the notion of conspiracy theories

Snare drum pound on the 2 & 4
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Reply #17 posted 11/17/09 2:57am

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Rebeljuice said:

i find the song boring and uninspired.



Really eek

Great song imo, I think 99 % Prince fans loves this song,

especially when played live....

music
Prince 4Ever. heart
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Reply #18 posted 11/17/09 4:19am

1013Nightlife

Bohemian67 said:

I like the lyrics and appreciate them being posted, otherwise I'd probably never read them. Song is too rocky for me. Glad to hear others enjoy it. Now bring on Beverley Park 77 please. cool


You funny girl! Maybe you can make up the lyrics to Beverly Park.
Dreamer is not my favorite of that album, though. Music and lyric-wise.
But I'm going to play the album again , see if I change my mind. Depends on the mood.
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Reply #19 posted 11/17/09 4:44am

violetblues

errant said:

love it. but i try try to tune-out the tin-foil hat lyrics to some of his songs so that i can continue to enjoy them. this is one.



I give this one a pass on the tin-foil lyrics because of he checks himself with the "i have another conspiracy" line, and the "dream" theme of the tune.

I have no problem with any artist expressing their religious/political views no matter how wacky i find them, as long as they don't come off TRC corny.I find everything about that album cringe worthy as hell.....and im not just talking about the lyrics.

Same applies for "Colonized Mind" cool song, lyrically made me think where this cat was coming from.
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Reply #20 posted 11/17/09 5:18am

Tame

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The music is excellent. I Love both the song and the lyrics.

The lyrics are concious of today's lingering racism, although I would like to believe that's gone or dying with the eldest still living...and not breathing in their children or grandchildren.

If the world is to unite through togetherness, and share and care for our Planet... it's a lot more than getting along.

Dreams coming true start with Dreamer's...So You can call me a dreamer too. cool
"The Lion Sleeps Tonight...
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Reply #21 posted 11/17/09 6:18am

Dayclear

That man is a gift. Thank-you, Thank-you. pray
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Reply #22 posted 11/17/09 6:50am

2elijah

Much truth to those lyrics. Parts of the lyrics in Dreamer, Prince credited Dick Gregory during his Tavis interview. Some of the lyrics references some comments Dick Gregory made during a previous State of the Black Union Conference. It's the verse that starts with "Peanut Butter lies....".
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Reply #23 posted 11/17/09 6:56am

pplrain

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Ok, I have another question:

Does this song affect a black person differently than it does a white person?

I think it does. This is what the issue in this song revolve around that even today race still matters.
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Reply #24 posted 11/17/09 7:01am

exodus

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the first line is
I was born, raised on the same plantation
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Reply #25 posted 11/17/09 7:20am

2elijah

pplrain said:

Ok, I have another question:

Does this song affect a black person differently than it does a white person?

I think it does. This is what the issues in this song revolve around that even today race still matters.


Well, can't speak for other Black people, but in my opinion only, what I believe Prince is saying in the early part of the song about never knowing he was "different" or there was racial prejudice, so-to-speak" until Dr. King was assassinated, was apparently an "awakening" for him when it happened. It apparently woke him up to the realization that racial prejudice against Blacks existed in this country. Especially after Dr. King's death, where anger and racial tensions was on the rise, due to Blacks and others being distraught over Dr. King's death. Prior to Dr. King's murder, were the days of the fire hoses where Blacks and others who participated in marches for equality and demanded to be recognized as first class citizens were sprayed and beaten, some killed because of it. The other lines in the lyrics about "expecting so much from a loving society". Whereas this is a country that prides itself on "freedom" yet the plantation mentality and racial hatred still exists.

I mean when you have anthems like "My country tis' of thee" talking about "sweet land of liberty" or "from every mountainside let freedom ring", those were some of the words Dr. King uttered in one of his speeches, yet he was murdered shortly thereafter, because freedom at that time only seemed to ring fully on a certain side of the mountain, and it makes one wonder how really sweet liberty was/is for many in this country.

I like at the end of Dreamer when Prince starts to say the "Pledge of Allegiance", and it reminds me of how Black kids had to recite that during the days of Dr. King, especially the part that states "Under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all"...well during Dr. King's time, this nation really didn't live up to the last line of that pledge, because even today, I'm still trying fo figure out the "liberty and justice for all" part. Just my two cents.
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Reply #26 posted 11/17/09 7:21am

2elijah

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the first line is
I was born, raised on the same plantation


True. First two lines of that song, is a very strong statement as well.
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Reply #27 posted 11/17/09 7:35am

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2elijah said:

pplrain said:

Ok, I have another question:

Does this song affect a black person differently than it does a white person?

I think it does. This is what the issues in this song revolve around that even today race still matters.


Well, can't speak for other Black people, but in my opinion only, what I believe Prince is saying in the early part of the song about never knowing he was "different" or there was racial prejudice, so-to-speak" until Dr. King was assassintated, was apparently an "awakening" for him, that racial prejudice against Blacks existed. Especially after Dr. King's death, where anger and racial tensions was on the rise, due to Blacks and others being distraught over Dr. King's death. Those were the days of the fire hoses being sprayed on Blacks who participated in marches for equality and demanding to be recognized as first class citizens. The other lines about "expecting so much from a loving society". Whereas this is a country that prides itself on "freedom" yet the plantation mentality and racial hatred still exists. I mean when you have anthems like "My country tis' of thee" talking about "sweet land of liberty" or "from every mountainside let freedom ring", yet those were some of the words Dr. King uttered in one of his speeches, yet was murdered shortly thereafter, it makes one wonder how really sweet liberty is for many in this country.
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Reply #28 posted 11/17/09 7:36am

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It is to much Hendrix (Voodo child) and I have always prefered his funk over his rock. Take away songs like Kiss, When doves cry or even Dance 4 me from his cataloge and you have a rather ordinary songwriter.
I believe that sex is a beautiful thing between two people. Between five, it's fantastic.
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Reply #29 posted 11/17/09 7:38am

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exodus said:

the first line is
I was born, raised on the same plantation


You're right! I corrected the lyrics.
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