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Thread started 01/04/10 7:36am

rgsince81

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3121, PLANET EARTH VS. LOTUS FLOW3R?????

Quality, vs Quantity. : :
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Reply #1 posted 01/04/10 8:28am

squirrelgrease

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If Sign O The Times is star star star star star

Then:

Lotusflow3r is star star

3121 is star star

Planet Earth is pooptoast pooptoast pooptoast pooptoast pooptoast
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Reply #2 posted 01/04/10 8:53am

nyse

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i soooo disagree with u squirrel !!!!
prince been on fire musicaly this past decade.


im taking lotus
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Reply #3 posted 01/04/10 9:44am

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nyse said:

i soooo disagree with u squirrel !!!!
prince been on fire musicaly this past decade.


im taking lotus


Agreed!
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Reply #4 posted 01/04/10 9:46am

rlittler81

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I agree, the last decade had some great music, better than the 90s even.
3121 is one of my favourite albums.
3121... Don't U Wanna Come?
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Reply #5 posted 01/04/10 9:50am

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3121
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Reply #6 posted 01/04/10 9:56am

mikeb71

eek Lotus is a great album, Planet earth is even better, 3121 is very good also. Planet earth seems to get a lot of negative comments.
All 3 are better than the outdated sounding D+P, Gold Experience and Love Symbol albums... Tony M RUINED them!!!
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Reply #7 posted 01/04/10 10:03am

Rightly

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1a. lotus

1b. Musiscology

2. 3121

3. planet earth
small circles, big wheels!
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Reply #8 posted 01/04/10 10:25am

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3121, Planet Earth and Lotusflower...

none of these are in my Prince top 20:


01. Purple Rain (10)
02. Sign "O" The Times (10)
03. 1999 (10)
04. Lovesexy (10)
05. Parade (10)
06. Around The World In A Day (10)
07. The Gold Experience (10)
08. Dirty Mind (10)
09. Controversy (9)
10. Diamonds & Pearls (9)
11. Love Symbol Album (9)
12. Come (9)
13. Black Album (9)
14. The Rainbow Children (9)
15. Graffiti Bridge (8)
16. Prince (8)
17. Crystal Ball (8)
18. Emancipation (8)
19. For You (8)
20. Batman (8)
21. LotusFlower / MPLSound (8)
22. Musicology (7)
23. Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic (7)
24. 3121 (6)
25. The Truth (6)
26. Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic (6)
27. The Vault... Old Friends 4 Sale (6)
28. Chaos & Disorder (6)
29. The Chocolate Invasion (6)
30. Slaughterhouse (6)
31. Planet Earth (5)
32. Newpower Soul (4)
33. ONA Piano (3)
34. N.E.W.S. (2)
35. ONA... Live (2)
36. Indigo Nights (2)
37. Kamasutra (0)

actually 3121 (6) and PE (5) are very disappointing albums,

LF/ MPLS is a little better (8)

imo. wink
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Reply #9 posted 01/04/10 10:50am

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3121, Musicology, Planet Earth and LotusFlow3r/MPLSound are all incredible albums!

The musical landscape it covers is absolutely fantastic and is vastly rich in layers, sound and diversity with a great amount of styles and sounds in pop, rock and funk/R&B. The lyrics flow with creativity and imagery and the musicianship is remarkable.

Add the Rainbow Children, NEWS, One Nite Alone, The Chocolate Invasion and The Slaughterhouse to the mix and I see an accomplished decade in music and in Prince history. cool
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Reply #10 posted 01/04/10 11:10am

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3121 over Planet Earth and Lotus Flower... Now, I have to say, I'm not the BIGGEST fan of 3121, I think it could have been better. But I can listen to it. I actually really like Incense and Candles... but then again, don't listen to me, I like Gangster Glam too. lol
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Reply #11 posted 01/04/10 11:29am

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I agree w/nyse, Giovanni777 and rlittler81. This past decade has been some of the best. I LOVE 3121, PLANET EARTH & LOTUS. lol











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Reply #12 posted 01/04/10 11:38am

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nyse said:

i soooo disagree with u squirrel !!!!
prince been on fire musicaly this past decade.


im taking lotus


So your saying in response to Squirrelgrease's post that Lotusfukka is better than SOTT? all SG said was if you put SOTT as a benchmark as his best and rate the others against it then LF gets a 2 3121 gets a 2 and PE is the crust round my bell end.

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Reply #13 posted 01/04/10 11:46am

nyse

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^^^

No. I did not say that. so no need 2 say i did lol J/K

to me if..

sign o the times is smile smile smile smile smile
then.

lotus flower biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin 1/2

planet earth biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin

3121 biggrin biggrin biggrin



I realy like the new material. and i think it can stand up to alot of older material.
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Reply #14 posted 01/04/10 12:36pm

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3121,Planet Earth, lotusflow3r and Mplsound are all great albums and I personally enjoy them as much as his 1980's albums and his beter albums in the 1990's.
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Reply #15 posted 01/04/10 12:40pm

lezama

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LotusFlowe3r/MPLSound - 8
Planet Earth - 5
3121 - 7
Musicology - 5
Change it one more time..
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Reply #16 posted 01/04/10 12:57pm

nurseV

3121 is a great cd and every time I listen to it-it just gets better. The Word is a masterpiece smile
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Reply #17 posted 01/04/10 1:04pm

MIRvmn

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3121 is ok but not better than Planet Earth. And Lotusflow3r is the best. smile
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Reply #18 posted 01/04/10 1:09pm

babynoz

I LOVE 3121 to pieces!

I like Lotusflower quite a bit.

Planet Earth, not as much except for the title track and 2 others.
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Reply #19 posted 01/04/10 1:32pm

Philly76

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All of these albums are worth to listen to


MPLSound - 9/10
(many ppl might disagree, but Dance 4 Me & OldschoolCompany
are the best songs Prince realeased for a very long time imo)

Lotusflow3r - 8/10

3121 - 8/10

Planet Earth 6/10
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Reply #20 posted 01/04/10 1:51pm

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Lotusflow3r (not including MPLSOUND)
3121
musicology
Planet Earth


....wayyy at the bottom near 90's territory

Mplsound
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Reply #21 posted 01/04/10 3:55pm

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mikeb71 said:

All 3 are better than the outdated sounding D+P, Gold Experience and Love Symbol albums... Tony M RUINED them!!!

What did Tony do to The Gold Experience?

For me the order is:
Lotus
PE
3121

I like them all but there's more songs I don't like on 3121.
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Reply #22 posted 01/04/10 4:34pm

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This is the musical face-off equivalent of a modern boxing tournament featuring Jake LaMotta, Mohammed Ali and Gerald McClellan.

And it's just as tough:

Jake's the most mobile, but he's almost 90 year's old for god's sake. And the smallest of the three.

Mohammed Ali can't throw a punch due to the Parkinson's, but he can still try to command the ring much better than...

Gerald McClellan who is in a wheel chair and blind. But he's easily the youngest of the three, and can still chuck a killer blow almost at random like a Vietnam Vet suddenly woken by a loud bang.

Diffult one. Gonna go for 3121, since the title track is the only thing from all three albums that could maybe justify an admitedly anachronistic inclusion in anything pre 1996.
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Reply #23 posted 01/04/10 4:58pm

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McD said:

This is the musical face-off equivalent of a modern boxing tournament featuring Jake LaMotta, Mohammed Ali and Gerald McClellan.

And it's just as tough:

Jake's the most mobile, but he's almost 90 year's old for god's sake. And the smallest of the three.

Mohammed Ali can't throw a punch due to the Parkinson's, but he can still try to command the ring much better than...

Gerald McClellan who is in a wheel chair and blind. But he's easily the youngest of the three, and can still chuck a killer blow almost at random like a Vietnam Vet suddenly woken by a loud bang.

Diffult one. Gonna go for 3121, since the title track is the only thing from all three albums that could maybe justify an admitedly anachronistic inclusion in anything pre 1996.


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Reply #24 posted 01/04/10 6:07pm

squirrelgrease

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bigd74 said:

nyse said:

i soooo disagree with u squirrel !!!!
prince been on fire musicaly this past decade.


im taking lotus


So your saying in response to Squirrelgrease's post that Lotusfukka is better than SOTT? all SG said was if you put SOTT as a benchmark as his best and rate the others against it then LF gets a 2 3121 gets a 2 and PE is the crust round my bell end.

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'Zactly. I can't with good conscience give Lotusflow3r/MPLSoUND and 3121 higher than star star if SOTT gets star star star star star and Dirty Mind, Controversy, One Nite Alone-Piano and The Gold Experience receive star star star star and albums like Graffiti Bridge, Come, Chaos And Disorder, The Vault, Chocolate Invasion, The Slaughterhouse and Batman get star star star.

star star is not bad for a Prince album. There's just such a large body of work to rank preferentially.

Planet Earth on the other hand...
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Reply #25 posted 01/04/10 6:28pm

nyse

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^^^
it's all opinion.

I rather listen 2 emancipation than SOTT
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Reply #26 posted 01/04/10 6:37pm

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There are a few good moments on Planet Earth, but overall it's a stinker. 2 or 3 good songs don't redeem the entire project. The ones I find listenable are SHOE, FBM, and Chelsea Rodgers ... but tell me when, in any other field, is 20-30% enough?

LotusFlow3r, on the other hand, is literally a reverse of PE: every song other than 2 or 3 is a home run (for me).

Using Squirrelgrease's "control" of SOTT being 5 stars:

LotusFlow3r: 3.5
3121: 3
PE: 1
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Reply #27 posted 01/04/10 6:53pm

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^^^^^

I'm judging the LotusFlow3r disc alone (not coupled with MPLSound).

Planet Earth was disappointing to me on several levels.

1) Most of the songs just didn't work IMO. A lot of the songs almost seem like they were sung out of key, and some were just too corny.
2) I thought he wasted a prime opportunity after the Superbowl to release a guitar-based album the very next Tuesday. Imagine if LotusFlow3r had been released then? Of course hindsight is 20/20, but I don't think I'm alone on this one.
3) With an album title like "Planet Earth", and the poetic speech he gave with the same lyrics, I expected an Earth-conscious concept album. Even if they were only linked by related segues, that would be something. Instead, it was a mishmash album with no theme.
4) Finally, and only slightly, I felt that giving this album away free in a newspaper "set the tone" of how it would be received.
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Reply #28 posted 01/04/10 7:26pm

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They are all close in my rankings, but Lotusflow3r/MPLsOUND are slightly better, still they don't have much memorability and are kind of relegated to occasional listen when a new album comes along. My rankings

MPLsOUND 81/100
Lotusflow3r 77/100
3121 76/100
Planet Earth 73/100

Compared with

SOTT 97/100
1999 95/100
Purple Rain 94/100
Crystal Ball 92/100
Dirty Mind 90/100

and

Chaos and Disorder 41/100
The Rainbow Children 28/100
Kamasutra (Not really an album) 9/100
So what are u going 2 do? R u just gonna sit there and watch? I'm not gonna stop until the war is over. Its gonna take a long time
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Reply #29 posted 01/04/10 11:00pm

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3121 - not 1 bad song (IMHO)

PLANET EARTH - worst album of his career ("")

LOTUS/MPLS - patchy, some great, some good, some average songs, by his lofty standards... could've been a gr8 single disc.
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