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ernestsewell said: Huggiebear said: Its great, okay it has a shit hop feel, but a positive message, and songs with a positive message I like. Besides its Camille, how can it go wrong.
Every time Prince uses a squeaky voice setting doesn't mean it's Camille. It's NOT Camille on this track, or "F.U.N.K.". At this point, it's a bit of a misnomer. A bit like calling all cotton swabs q-tips, even though the terms are not interchangable. For me, that voice effect will always be Camille...whether it is listed in the linear notes as such, or not. Was Camille really much more than a stylistic approach that Prince used (and often reuses)? I mean, beyond the Lovesexy mythology ? [Edited 1/8/10 6:30am] "New Power slide...." |
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skywalker said: ernestsewell said: Every time Prince uses a squeaky voice setting doesn't mean it's Camille. It's NOT Camille on this track, or "F.U.N.K.". At this point, it's a bit of a misnomer. A bit like calling all cotton swabs q-tips, even though the terms are not interchangable. For me, that voice effect will always be Camille...whether it is listed in the linear notes as such, or not. Was Camille really much more than a stylistic approach that Prince used (and often reuses)? I mean, beyond the Lovesexy mythology ? [Edited 1/8/10 6:30am] Seems like a hen-egg problem to me. What was first? The creation of the alter ego Camille, and then Prince decided to associate that alter ego with the electronically modified voice, or was he playing with those vocal effects and then decided to create a whole virtual person to be associated with it? Anyway, it might well be that Prince still likes the sound, even if he is not too interested in the whole mythology he once created to go with it. Unless we know for sure what Camille meant to Prince, it's a bit tricky to argue what is Camille and what isn't, unless you strictly limit it to the information given in the respective liner notes (i.e., it is Camille if the booklet tells you so).  | |
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skywalker said: ernestsewell said: Every time Prince uses a squeaky voice setting doesn't mean it's Camille. It's NOT Camille on this track, or "F.U.N.K.". At this point, it's a bit of a misnomer. A bit like calling all cotton swabs q-tips, even though the terms are not interchangable. For me, that voice effect will always be Camille...whether it is listed in the linear notes as such, or not. Was Camille really much more than a stylistic approach that Prince used (and often reuses)? I mean, beyond the Lovesexy mythology ? [Edited 1/8/10 6:30am] And don´t forget he´s used a similar voice even before SOTT and Lovesexy. Love or $ and certain parts in Erotic City come to mind. " I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?" | |
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skywalker said: ernestsewell said: Every time Prince uses a squeaky voice setting doesn't mean it's Camille. It's NOT Camille on this track, or "F.U.N.K.". At this point, it's a bit of a misnomer. A bit like calling all cotton swabs q-tips, even though the terms are not interchangable. For me, that voice effect will always be Camille...whether it is listed in the linear notes as such, or not. Was Camille really much more than a stylistic approach that Prince used (and often reuses)? I mean, beyond the Lovesexy mythology ? [Edited 1/8/10 6:30am] agreed. | |
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KoolEaze said: skywalker said: At this point, it's a bit of a misnomer. A bit like calling all cotton swabs q-tips, even though the terms are not interchangable. For me, that voice effect will always be Camille...whether it is listed in the linear notes as such, or not. Was Camille really much more than a stylistic approach that Prince used (and often reuses)? I mean, beyond the Lovesexy mythology ? [Edited 1/8/10 6:30am] And don´t forget he´s used a similar voice even before SOTT and Lovesexy. Love or $ and certain parts in Erotic City come to mind. Good point! So the voice effect was there first... | |
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SPOOKYGAS said: ernestsewell said: Every time Prince uses a squeaky voice setting doesn't mean it's Camille. It's NOT Camille on this track, or "F.U.N.K.". Ernest...Camille is NOT a real person. Piss off with that nonsense. [Edited 1/8/10 9:34am] | |
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skywalker said: At this point, it's a bit of a misnomer.
A bit like calling all cotton swabs q-tips, even though the terms are not interchangable. For me, that voice effect will always be Camille...whether it is listed in the linear notes as such, or not. Was Camille really much more than a stylistic approach that Prince used (and often reuses)? I mean, beyond the Lovesexy mythology ? Until Prince puts "Camille" on a record and truly resurrects the character, I don't consider every version of that voice effect to be Camille. Camille was kind of its own thing back then. I'd like to think Camille is off being the person Prince refuses to be now. | |
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ernestsewell said: skywalker said: At this point, it's a bit of a misnomer.
A bit like calling all cotton swabs q-tips, even though the terms are not interchangable. For me, that voice effect will always be Camille...whether it is listed in the linear notes as such, or not. Was Camille really much more than a stylistic approach that Prince used (and often reuses)? I mean, beyond the Lovesexy mythology ? Until Prince puts "Camille" on a record and truly resurrects the character, I don't consider every version of that voice effect to be Camille. Camille was kind of its own thing back then. I'd like to think Camille is off being the person Prince refuses to be now. I think you´re right. The squeaky voice being reminiscent of Camille technically doesn´t make it Camille per se, as long as Prince as the creator and artist behind the Camille character does not explicitly say so by naming Camille in the liner notes or other song credits. Artistically speaking, Camille died after the Lovesexy tour. " I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?" | |
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I think it's a great jam and as others have said, non-prince that I play it for LOVE it. "Who the hell is that?" Uh, Prince. | |
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KoolEaze said: ernestsewell said: Until Prince puts "Camille" on a record and truly resurrects the character, I don't consider every version of that voice effect to be Camille. Camille was kind of its own thing back then. I'd like to think Camille is off being the person Prince refuses to be now. I think you´re right. The squeaky voice being reminiscent of Camille technically doesn´t make it Camille per se, as long as Prince as the creator and artist behind the Camille character does not explicitly say so by naming Camille in the liner notes or other song credits. Artistically speaking, Camille died after the Lovesexy tour. Yep. Or better yet, based on the "story line" in the concert, he was reformed and went on to live a normal life. . [Edited 1/8/10 10:34am] | |
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hollywooddove said: I feel like you have to be Ol' Skool Prince listener and have drudged your way through all the music..... AND I MEAN ALL OF IT... that he has made in order to like this song. It's just got that mediocre Prince style that some of us Orgers just can't seem to get enough of.
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HonestMan13 said: The worst crap Prince writes still shows more imagination and talent than 90% of the shit on radio today. All these dudes writing in a Prince style just write a profane tracks with some chick moaning in the background. Where's the 'Purple Rain styled track' or the 'Sign O' The Times styled track'. You'd swear that Prince only did the Dirty Mind album and some naughty B-Sides if you listened to those claiming to be influenced by him.
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It's my favorite song on that album! "You can be the President, I'd rather be the Pope" | |
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that song should have been a single | |
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ernestsewell said: joelmarable said: r u sick?name something funkier on radio.in fact name something funkier period and not by prince. this funk is dragging and its all that, nobody can funk like p ,stop tripping.
Yeah, that's why it's all over radio, has a amazingly innovative video, and is a bonus DVD-ROM on the CD maxi single. Oh wait.....it's not. ----- Please name any other independent artist that are receiving radio play. In addtion, anyone that thinks this song as anything to do with hip-hop is smoking crack. The song is pure funk and some of you need to turn in your funk card. Of course most of you never had a funk card to begin with. | |
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Ol' Skool Company is my jam!
One of his best funk efforts from the last decade, imho... |
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love it... sue me! | |
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pplrain said: love it... sue me!
If we don't, Prince probably will at some point anyway. LOL | |
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ernestsewell said: pplrain said: love it... sue me!
If we don't, Prince probably will at some point anyway. LOL Haha! He'd sue you before me.  | |
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pplrain said: ernestsewell said: If we don't, Prince probably will at some point anyway. LOL Haha! He'd sue you before me. He threatened to. It's a notch in my belt. MMUUUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA | |
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ernestsewell said: pplrain said: love it... sue me!
If we don't, Prince probably will at some point anyway. LOL Ha Friggin Ha so hard I just turned gay HA! Now that is funny true! We are all so full of  here | |
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hollywooddove said: ernestsewell said: If we don't, Prince probably will at some point anyway. LOL Ha Friggin Ha so hard I just turned gay HA! Now that is funny true! Um.....what? | |
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ernestsewell said: pplrain said: Haha! He'd sue you before me. He threatened to. It's a notch in my belt. MMUUUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA How? Did websheriff contact you? | |
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pplrain said: ernestsewell said: He threatened to. It's a notch in my belt. MMUUUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA How? Did websheriff contact you? Someone from NPGMC did. It's on the Org somewhere. Somehow it came up in a thread, and I explained what happened. http://prince.org/msg/7/320634 | |
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ernestsewell said: pplrain said: How? Did websheriff contact you? Someone from NPGMC did. It's on the Org somewhere. Somehow it came up in a thread, and I explained what happened. http://prince.org/msg/7/320634 no friggin way... really .... that's like having jon lennons ghost bitch at you for watchin a jodi foster film We are all so full of here | |
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ernestsewell said: pplrain said: How? Did websheriff contact you? Someone from NPGMC did. It's on the Org somewhere. Somehow it came up in a thread, and I explained what happened. http://prince.org/msg/7/320634 Was he mad you were playing his boots? I can't imagine him being upset you were playing his released tracks. You know he loves to control his music. I've seen him up close more than a couple of times, he has a beautiful aura around him. | |
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pplrain said: ernestsewell said: Someone from NPGMC did. It's on the Org somewhere. Somehow it came up in a thread, and I explained what happened. http://prince.org/msg/7/320634 Was he mad you were playing his boots? I can't imagine him being upset you were playing his released tracks. You know he loves to control his music. I've seen him up close more than a couple of times, he has a beautiful aura around him. It's all in that thread. Read on. I tried to put everything in there that I could remember (which was 99% of it, at least). | |
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ernestsewell said: pplrain said: love it... sue me!
If we don't, Prince probably will at some point anyway. LOL piss off with that NONsense. |
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SPOOKYGAS said: ernestsewell said: If we don't, Prince probably will at some point anyway. LOL piss off with that NONsense.  | |
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ernestsewell said: KoolEaze said: I think you´re right. The squeaky voice being reminiscent of Camille technically doesn´t make it Camille per se, as long as Prince as the creator and artist behind the Camille character does not explicitly say so by naming Camille in the liner notes or other song credits. Artistically speaking, Camille died after the Lovesexy tour. Yep. Or better yet, based on the "story line" in the concert, he was reformed and went on to live a normal life. . [Edited 1/8/10 10:34am] 
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