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Reply #120 posted 01/11/10 8:35pm

porfyrivrohi

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mani915 said:

lafleurdove said:

nod you're alone!
[Edited 12/30/09 0:47am]



I SECOND THAT!! THAT SEXY LITTLE MAN STILL ROX MY SOCKS!! AND THAT WILL NEVER CHANGE!!!smile)<3333 LET HIS PURPLE RAIN LIVE ON!!! lol biggrin wink razz cool



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Reply #121 posted 01/11/10 8:54pm

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lafleurdove said:

nod you're alone!
[Edited 12/30/09 0:47am]

Ill wait, Ive been there since 81, Im not goin no where : yinyang
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Reply #122 posted 01/11/10 9:14pm

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LeanderWapshot said:

I have spent most of my life as an immense Prince fan. However, I have no hope whatsoever that he will do anything interesting again. There have been a few moments of pleasing music in the last ten or so years, but the Prince who put out songs that didn't sound like anything else, that had great vocal arrangements, the Prince who could allow healthy collaboration, and who didn't record music out of fear of being irrelevant is long gone.
For me, you'd have to go back well over a decade to find an album that was interesting and high-calibur.
Why am I here? I think I was bored and I sometimes check this site out, but I have never been less enthusiastic about Prince.




everyone is entitled to their own opinion, the man still WOWS me, PEACE OUT!!! Have fun finding inspiration in todays trashy music!
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Reply #123 posted 01/11/10 10:12pm

Alej

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IstenSzek said:

what gets on my tits is how he talks about songs we'll never hear and
say "the world is not ready for this".

if ever we've been ready, it's right now.



Did he actually say that? whofarted
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Reply #124 posted 01/12/10 12:15am

jimino1

yes he has, more than once....Prince imho still 'has it' but he kinda lacks consistency and the ability to judge things like he used to (or maybe WB's did a lot of that for him...or perhaps the revolution were a bigger asset than we thought)

he seems to want fame, but not everything that goes with it....maybe by being so 'sketchy' on his albums he actually does want to lose a few fans in order to pick up new ones...who knows...

we all know he has at least 2 or 3 cds of great music still in the vault (and remember that is from the 80s only for the most part) - who knows what he has stored in there from the last 2 decades....but why he won't 'release it' for us is anybody's guess...he must have his reasons I guess...

the real question is, why tout, or more aptly 'signal' that lotusflow3r.com was going to be full of videos and new music, and even live streams, when it is very obvious it just a grab bag of mostly already released stuff in order for prince to take our $$$...shame on him for that - I won't be rushing in again thats for sure!!!
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Reply #125 posted 01/12/10 5:11am

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Alej said:

IstenSzek said:

what gets on my tits is how he talks about songs we'll never hear and
say "the world is not ready for this".

if ever we've been ready, it's right now.



Did he actually say that? whofarted


yeah, the last time he said it was about "the divine"
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #126 posted 01/12/10 5:24am

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No, I am not bored. I still consider myself a fan.

My enthusiasm has maybe waned a bit over the last years but he still interests me and i will always be eager to hear something new from him.
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Reply #127 posted 01/12/10 5:46am

OldFriends4Sal
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I'm still interested, I'm still a fan

But I am bored
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Reply #128 posted 01/12/10 5:46am

IstenSzek

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garganta said:

No, I am not bored. I still consider myself a fan.

My enthusiasm has maybe waned a bit over the last years but he still interests me and i will always be eager to hear something new from him.


yeah, same here. i don't think there'll ever come a day when i won't rush
out to get his new stuff in the store or online whenever he's got a new
album out.

it's just his websites and his antics that make the whole thing a little
less enjoyable lately.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #129 posted 01/12/10 10:50am

Alej

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IstenSzek said:

Alej said:




Did he actually say that? whofarted


yeah, the last time he said it was about "the divine"


confused He has issues.
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Reply #130 posted 01/12/10 1:42pm

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After 30 years I think it was partly the bootlegs and partly the fans that ruined it for me.
Back before the net and forums filled with complaining fans were common place. I was under the delusion that the music was special in some way and the fans of the purpleone's were of better quality than other musician's.
Then came the internet and a flood of purple bootlegs that never seem to dry.
I though I was in heaven,
At some point too much is just that, too much.
So many poor recordings ,so little time.
Who needs 5 copies of lakeland, anyway. What I do need is a quality album for a change, but those days must be long gone.

To cut the chase I would classify myself as uninterested.
There are just so many other musical choices out there, it needent be a one man show any ore.
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Reply #131 posted 01/13/10 9:12am

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IstenSzek said:

garganta said:

No, I am not bored. I still consider myself a fan.

My enthusiasm has maybe waned a bit over the last years but he still interests me and i will always be eager to hear something new from him.


yeah, same here. i don't think there'll ever come a day when i won't rush
out to get his new stuff in the store or online whenever he's got a new
album out.

it's just his websites and his antics that make the whole thing a little
less enjoyable lately
.


I guive you THAT nod Lotus has really not been up to par or expectation
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Reply #132 posted 01/13/10 10:33am

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When 3121 came out, and people were throwing out lines of "this is no where near as good as his classic material," I thought those people were crazy. Then Planet Earth came out, and it was mediocre. Then LotusFlow3r came out, and was even more mediocre. Now those crazy people don't seem so crazy anymore.

Having said that, each of those cds have worthy tracks on them, its just difficult to listen to the whole thing through.

=0P
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Reply #133 posted 01/13/10 10:37am

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Hero0101 said:

When 3121 came out, and people were throwing out lines of "this is no where near as good as his classic material," I thought those people were crazy. Then Planet Earth came out, and it was mediocre. Then LotusFlow3r came out, and was even more mediocre. Now those crazy people don't seem so crazy anymore.

Having said that, each of those cds have worthy tracks on them, its just difficult to listen to the whole thing through.

=0P



Since Ipods came out it's difficult for me to listen to ANYTHING through for a second time unless it is a really classic album in my opinion. However I do agree, since the Rainbow Children it has been difficult for me to get through every P album without skipping after the first time. I always give the first time a chance.
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Reply #134 posted 01/13/10 10:55am

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Sorry 4 U dear, LeanderWapshot , U R Alone..
I still listen to Prince new stuff and oldies, I still get back to him when I need real Music..
Nowadays, on the Air, we can't hear much interesting music, everyone wants to mix other's music, cover and am really bored yes by the Music made for masses, music without any particularity that might make it sound great, sound joyful, enthusiastic..
Even if Prince plays oldies he's constantly remasterizing his notes, recreating new vibes, he's just a unique and Superb Musician
[Edited 1/13/10 10:56am]
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Reply #135 posted 01/13/10 10:32pm

babynoz

Hmmm, lemme see... hmmm

The Dance
Digital Garden
Colonized Mind
Get On The Boat
Mellow
Boom
Chocolate Box
Fury
The Word
Incense and Candles
Te Amo Corazon
Muse 2 the Pharoah
Baby Knows
Beautiful Strange
Strange but True
Guitar
SHOE
Wall Of Berlin
3121
Feel Better, Feel Good

I'm good! boogie
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #136 posted 01/13/10 10:56pm

LinnLM1

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ernestsewell said:

I've been bored w/ his music for 10 years now.


I never understood this.

I liked Master P's 10 years ago, but I don't go on his fansites talking about how much I haven't liked his music in over a decade.

Obviously, he hasn't been as boring as people say he is if they come here.


No, he has been as boring as people say. Why do we come here? For one thing to talk about the glory years: 1980-87. Those years of music were so amazing there will always be something to talk about them. AND the fascination of fans who think P is still putting out great music. Very interesting.
the music knows what your motives are when you are making it

listen to The Replacements - its good for the soul
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Reply #137 posted 01/14/10 12:49am

iloveannie

Anybody interested in setting up a Prince.org.2 site for those that are fans yet aren't fanatical? It could cater for the many that prefer certain decades/albums/genres over others without being criticised for airing such opinions.

It could even let the members state, if they felt the need, that they didn't like certain material. Freedom of speech AND thought! Heaven forbid it should ever come to pass.

Religion, hypocrisy, sexuality, spirituality, immaturity and the 80s will be allowed. I mean where would Prince be if it were not for any of those?
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Reply #138 posted 01/14/10 1:32am

lombard

I still love Prince's music, but the subscription to the website was/is very dissapointing.
He could have made that very exciting for us by putting out some new tunes or old unreleased tracks.
I still haven't received my T-shirt but I don't give a F#@ck about that.
Also very dissapointing is the lack of an extensive European tour.
But.... He is still the only musician to date who is able to make interesting musi !!!!
How beautiful do the words have to B, before they conquer every heart
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Reply #139 posted 01/14/10 1:48am

iloveannie

Someone said Lotusflow3r may be a long grower for some much like Chaos and Disorder was. Gotta ask, was C&D a grower then? Dust gatherer for me.

The talent is still there in abundance. The execution live is incredible. The magic in the songs? Hmm, is it me that's old, is it Prince or is it just that that's the way it is.

One day you just find you're too old to be a popstar anymore.

Does he bore me? Not live (goes without saying) but definately recorded. There are other songs and bands that bring smiles to my feet nowadays. All younger sad
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Reply #140 posted 01/14/10 4:35am

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If you're bored, why write about in on a web site? Find something you enjoy and do that!



That is the million dollar question.
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Reply #141 posted 01/14/10 1:58pm

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TheJoyfulMaster said:


He's grown too comfy with the same guitar setup/sounds, the same instrumentions, the same stock synths. LOTUSFLOW3R finally started using more gtr. effects, but still same punchy Mesa Boogie sound. The synths sound thin, stock, not layered or tweaked enough.

I'm mean the performances/application are flawless and genuis. But we need some originality again. We need depth. He needs an engineer like David Rivkin again when they experimented with underwater guitars and such things like on U GOT THE LOOK. Just go for a goal of pure original sound like he did in 80's, which still influences today, listen to the drum machine on Lady Gaga RELOADED. He needs to press buttons again and if it means dropping the "great" million dollar studio rooms and joining the Amish with no electrics using pots and pans so be it. Maybe he's already done it, he records enuff -- we don't hear it all. Release it baby! razz


i agree with most of this. i suppose his long term fans want a little bit more depth from prince now, in terms of experimentation with production, arrangement. i think he last did anything like this on rainbow children but he needs a more produced/crafted approach instead of the live jazz band feel (but please no return to the boring loops of the exodus/come era).
his guitar work is just predictable notes now or swamped in wah wah.

i suppose we complain because we think he has better stuff inside him and we dont hear it because of his artistic choices.
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Reply #142 posted 01/15/10 2:06am

iloveannie

spoida said:

i agree with most of this. i suppose his long term fans want a little bit more depth from prince now, in terms of experimentation with production, arrangement. i think he last did anything like this on rainbow children but he needs a more produced/crafted approach instead of the live jazz band feel (but please no return to the boring loops of the exodus/come era).
his guitar work is just predictable notes now or swamped in wah wah.

i suppose we complain because we think he has better stuff inside him and we dont hear it because of his artistic choices.


And I agree with you there too. Then again my plant in the dining room stopped flowering long before it died. Perhaps it's the same thing. Perhaps the flowers have stopped blooming and now we're just left with the stems and stalks?

It got chucked onto the compost pile before it finally died. I still remember the flowers though. The compost helped my potatoes no end last year.
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Reply #143 posted 01/15/10 7:34am

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ernestsewell said:


You're both right I think. He's not as quick on the draw as he used to be, cranking out random and incredible music. I don't think he's "slow", but he's just not got the same muse he once did. That muse plays into the inspiration argument as well.

One of my favorite artists is Salvador Dali. He was fucking brilliant, but his last panting as atrocious. So many great artists go out on a lesser note than what they were once capable of doing.


Yeah but Prince isn't in his eighties with psychological and physical ailments. If you want a better analogy, try Miles Davis. The dude kept changing and changing his sound and not looking back with a cpl of exceptions (under Quincy Jones' urging). I challenge Prince to create something so fearless and out there as all of those tracks on the Complete On the Corner Sessions box set. When Miles couldn't put out quality any longer, he "retired" for six years, and then came back out. Albeit, I don't like Miles's eighties output as much as the rest, but he still forged ahead until he dropped.

Many of us were lucky enough to follow Prince from the beginning and saw that beautiful flower blossom through the eighties. Then, it seems, the Nineties came, he had accomplished every caveat that could be possibly obtained, and he started to meld with respectability the more he tried to break from it.

Nope, his music is boring, it is Prince Lite. I am just waiting for the Vault to crack open and hear that reckless genius once again. The only reason I come here is to read about the old days. Prince is damn straight, "my only competition is me in the past." He'd rather suppress his best work than allow it to supercede the crap he shits out. It's part of the coup of being an icon.
[Edited 12/31/09 14:32pm]

nod I'm the same. I'm fascinated by Prince's golden years and everything that led up to them, but unfortunately I find little of interest here on the org about those days. Where are the scholars? mad There's so much to say about his great years, but no-one has even scratched the surface. Unless I'm just missing those threads or something.
“The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Reply #144 posted 01/15/10 8:07am

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iloveannie said:

Anybody interested in setting up a Prince.org.2 site for those that are fans yet aren't fanatical? It could cater for the many that prefer certain decades/albums/genres over others without being criticised for airing such opinions.

It could even let the members state, if they felt the need, that they didn't like certain material. Freedom of speech AND thought! Heaven forbid it should ever come to pass.

Religion, hypocrisy, sexuality, spirituality, immaturity and the 80s will be allowed. I mean where would Prince be if it were not for any of those?


There could be some great discussions but there's only so much to discuss about one particular artist and it would get dull after a while. It wouldn't be near as fun and humorous without the fams getting their panties in a wad because somebody doesn't think Prince is the Lord and Savior. lol
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Reply #145 posted 01/15/10 8:45am

Japio

You have to take it like it is. That's life. He gave me so much joy. I will never forget this. I'm a fan because he is different, so whatever he does I don't like I say to myself: thats Prince you have to life with that.
There is coming an end to everything on this earth. Be happy what he already gave us during his life.
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Reply #146 posted 01/15/10 9:35am

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yes.
i started getting bored around planet earth.
its a couple songs on there that i dig,
but its not like i can play the album
all the way through.
i skip a shit load.
and the latest...i like about 2 songs...3 tops.
although LIVE prince will never "bore" me.
ever.
[Edited 1/15/10 9:35am]
...then he turned to me and said "I dare you".
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Reply #147 posted 01/15/10 7:58pm

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iloveannie said:

Anybody interested in setting up a Prince.org.2 site for those that are fans yet aren't fanatical? It could cater for the many that prefer certain decades/albums/genres over others without being criticised for airing such opinions.

It could even let the members state, if they felt the need, that they didn't like certain material. Freedom of speech AND thought! Heaven forbid it should ever come to pass.

Religion, hypocrisy, sexuality, spirituality, immaturity and the 80s will be allowed. I mean where would Prince be if it were not for any of those?
hug
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Reply #148 posted 01/15/10 8:32pm

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I'll be blunt


Prince is definately a highlight of my life so far.

I'm 22. Still young!

Ive had the great fortune of being both British and a fan 3 years before 21 Nights.

I have 4 CDR'S full of prince images

countless amounts of bootleg CD's/DVD's

Love everything I have of his.

The minute his song appears on a radio/television station, I go nuts!

BUT!

I am bored!

The whole Paris affair was good and interesting, but this to me just seems to have been a bit of a "2005" all over again(!)

At the end of the day we all wouldn't be responding to this forum if we didn't like Prince.

He's produced countless amount of songs and albums we love but yes recently it's been a bit drole on the Prince front for fans.

JUST WAIT PEOPLE!

Although he's getting older,I feel there's still another trick up his sleeve! And then(!) it be all excitement and interest in Prince again on the org


ITS PRINCE!

ONE OF THE LAST LIVING LEGENDS OF MUSIC!(Let's face it he IS!)

(I know this has been a bit optimistic, but I will bet for this message that Im right!)
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Reply #149 posted 01/16/10 11:59am

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vainandy said:

There could be some great discussions but there's only so much to discuss about one particular artist and it would get dull after a while. It wouldn't be near as fun and humorous without the fams getting their panties in a wad because somebody doesn't think Prince is the Lord and Savior. lol


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