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Reply #90 posted 01/02/10 6:42pm

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i've got Prince CDs and DVDs i haven't even listened to/watched.
everyone's a fruit & nut case
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Reply #91 posted 01/03/10 7:28pm

LeanderWapshot

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I have been bored sence 2005...

Like most ppl here i ran out and got the Lotusflower 3 CD set the day it came out
But you know what, Ive only played One CD once, never botherd to listen to the other ones
It's allmost like i dont even care any more
Prince is like dead .. a memory lol


I didn't even plan to buy it. A friend gave it to me. I listened to the Prince disc once and was so unthrilled, that I have never listened to the others.
He should let some years go by before releasing anything. Or, he should work with someone again, like his collaboration with W&L, because he isn't as imaginative as he once was.
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Reply #92 posted 01/03/10 10:58pm

HomeSquid

I bought Lotusflower. Listened to it about a half dozen times. Sold it and kept only "Dance For Me". What does that tell you. It's not bad music but like almost everything since Emancipation it's just so mediocre compared to his best days. All I can say is there was just something magical about him up until 1990 (the Batman soundtrack). he totally sold-out with "Diamonds" but I truly adored the Symbol record and loved most of "Gold" but then it's pretty much over. The only post Symbol album I ever listen to is "3121" and a personal "best of" I made containing songs like "So Far So Pleased", "The Holy River", etc...only 1 cd's worth...but hey I still fondly esteem the Prince of the 80s...I'm still hoping he'll just be humble and do a true collaboration with Wendy And Lisa
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Reply #93 posted 01/04/10 12:54pm

LeanderWapshot

BoySimon said:

Sort of understand what you're saying... but, if you go and listen to some of the music being released at the moment, it firstly reminds you of the huge influence Prince has had on music over the years, and secondly allows you to 'hear', for want of a better dscription, the music you perhaps wish Prince was making right now...check out Passion Pit, Kids of 88 and Computers Want Me Dead... very new wave... very saturated in most things Paisley... very much the sounds I would like Prince to be pushing now.


I never heard of those three bands but just checked them out. Wow! I especially like Passion Pit. Strong Prince influence. Thanks.
It's easy to assume there's no good music out there anymore judging by what's on radio/tv.
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Reply #94 posted 01/04/10 12:58pm

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LeanderWapshot said:

I have spent most of my life as an immense Prince fan. However, I have no hope whatsoever that he will do anything interesting again. There have been a few moments of pleasing music in the last ten or so years, but the Prince who put out songs that didn't sound like anything else, that had great vocal arrangements, the Prince who could allow healthy collaboration, and who didn't record music out of fear of being irrelevant is long gone.
For me, you'd have to go back well over a decade to find an album that was interesting and high-calibur.
Why am I here? I think I was bored and I sometimes check this site out, but I have never been less enthusiastic about Prince.


You will find many posters here who are apparently bored with Prince. Why they are posting here will always stay a mystery to me.


For me, it's because I still find his great work to be enduringly and excitingly interesting. If I'm being honest, I guess I'd have to admit that part of my wants to believe that he will surprise me again.
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Reply #95 posted 01/04/10 1:06pm

LeanderWapshot

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If you're bored, why write about in on a web site? Find something you enjoy and do that!

Don't take this personally.
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Reply #96 posted 01/04/10 8:13pm

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No, its not just u.....his music is not as fun and playful as it use to b. And he is always so dam serious! I wish he would lighten up a bit...i am just saying...
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Reply #97 posted 01/05/10 4:44am

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I agree that emanciption was a turning point. There has been no quality control since the split with warner. There have been some great tunes since, but they appear less and less. When F.U.N.K was released I had high hopes for the pending albums but was bitterly dissapointed again.

There is hope still for Prince and there will always be Prince influenced artists moving forward.

Alan Wilkis and Juvelen are my particular favs at the moment.
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Reply #98 posted 01/09/10 7:15am

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LeanderWapshot said:

I have spent most of my life as an immense Prince fan. However, I have no hope whatsoever that he will do anything interesting again. There have been a few moments of pleasing music in the last ten or so years, but the Prince who put out songs that didn't sound like anything else, that had great vocal arrangements, the Prince who could allow healthy collaboration, and who didn't record music out of fear of being irrelevant is long gone.
For me, you'd have to go back well over a decade to find an album that was interesting and high-calibur.
Why am I here? I think I was bored and I sometimes check this site out, but I have never been less enthusiastic about Prince.


I agree 100%
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Reply #99 posted 01/09/10 7:43am

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I have the same feeling about Prince now, as I had about David Bowie, back in the day when he moved away from being exciting, artistic and pushing the envelope.

As Bowie grew older, he became more and more boring, passion became apathy. Sure, the man had a revival in the 1990s, where he produced some more exciting things (that still was miles from being as great as his own back catalogue), and after two or three albums, he fell back into himself and started to rewrite the ol' songs.

I feel Prince is in that exact place now, and it'll only grow worse. If he's lucky, he'll have a lucky strike on a couple of future albums like Bowie had, but overall, I think we should expect the man to become more and more a slave to his own idiosyncrasies and end up sounding like a Prince covers band trying to write new tunes like their own biggest idol.

Bowie I gave up on years ago, but I'm not ready to really give up Prince yet, even though he bores me a bit at the moment.
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Reply #100 posted 01/09/10 8:08am

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Cravens said:

I have the same feeling about Prince now, as I had about David Bowie, back in the day when he moved away from being exciting, artistic and pushing the envelope.

As Bowie grew older, he became more and more boring, passion became apathy. Sure, the man had a revival in the 1990s, where he produced some more exciting things (that still was miles from being as great as his own back catalogue), and after two or three albums, he fell back into himself and started to rewrite the ol' songs.

I feel Prince is in that exact place now, and it'll only grow worse. If he's lucky, he'll have a lucky strike on a couple of future albums like Bowie had, but overall, I think we should expect the man to become more and more a slave to his own idiosyncrasies and end up sounding like a Prince covers band trying to write new tunes like their own biggest idol.





Bowie I gave up on years ago, but I'm not ready to really give up Prince yet, even though he bores me a bit at the moment.
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like a 9000 pound sword, you could have a very big point here.
[Edited 1/9/10 8:09am]
We are all so full of doody here
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Reply #101 posted 01/09/10 8:28am

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ciao ciao..... nana
thanks, Prince......
prince prince prince prince
flag flag flag flag flag flag flag flag
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Reply #102 posted 01/09/10 7:07pm

Bighead

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nod you're alone!
[Edited 12/30/09 0:47am]


Yes you are. You're alone with the rest of the world to keep you company. Only us orgers are Prince fans. to the rest of the world, he's a curiosity. Like you said, there has been nothing too exiting in more than 10 yrs.
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Reply #103 posted 01/09/10 9:49pm

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djmarch said:

I agree that emanciption was a turning point. There has been no quality control since the split with warner. There have been some great tunes since, but they appear less and less. When F.U.N.K was released I had high hopes for the pending albums but was bitterly dissapointed again.

There is hope still for Prince and there will always be Prince influenced artists moving forward.

Alan Wilkis and Juvelen are my particular favs at the moment.



right nod

there are still a great song here and there, but there hasen't been a totally brilliant ALBUM since Gold.

The closest is The Rainbow Children... imo. But still... this album is not a masterpiece and not as joyfull as the WB music 1978 >>> 1995.


ps... "Joyfull" is that a word ? biggrin
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Reply #104 posted 01/10/10 1:04pm

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ernestsewell said:


You're both right I think. He's not as quick on the draw as he used to be, cranking out random and incredible music. I don't think he's "slow", but he's just not got the same muse he once did. That muse plays into the inspiration argument as well.

One of my favorite artists is Salvador Dali. He was fucking brilliant, but his last panting as atrocious. So many great artists go out on a lesser note than what they were once capable of doing.


Yeah but Prince isn't in his eighties with psychological and physical ailments. If you want a better analogy, try Miles Davis. The dude kept changing and changing his sound and not looking back with a cpl of exceptions (under Quincy Jones' urging). I challenge Prince to create something so fearless and out there as all of those tracks on the Complete On the Corner Sessions box set.
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Was Miles even in his '50s when he released the On The Corner album (which garnered some of his worst reviews of his career at the time it was released; Unfairly, I might add...)? What's the connection with Prince?...

The truth is, all great artists come down to earth...It is what it is....
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Reply #105 posted 01/10/10 1:51pm

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I sort of feel the same like the OP.

I know, i come here regularly to post (mainly about his past material), but thats because i am kinda 'used' to this place: i post here for quite a while and read it on a regular basis.

When it comes to his last recordings i can say:
I more or less stopped being interested in his music after 1995: the childish name-change, the slave-thing, the so-so quality of overlong 3 CD sets (Emancipation, Crystal Ball) and subsequent 'plastic' albums like New Power Soul and Rave were really offputting to me. Even to this day i dont own the two latter albums.
He did regain some of my interest with the Musicology project. But that was more because people (press and 'fans' here) were talking about a come-back, something that sparkled my interest. So I buyed the albums Musicology, 3121 and Planet Earth, only to notice they left my CD-played within 2 or 3 weeks to be hardly played again after that. I felt so underwhelmed by them that i havent even bought the Lotusflower set: i have downloaded it on my pc, but erased it after a couple of weeks, after listening to it just a few times.

The time has been long past that i bought a new Prince album at the day or in the week of release, and i notice the days that i did get frustated over him not using his 'potential', are past me too.

Right now i am the point that i dont really 'care' about his new output anymore. There are dozens of other artists, in every kind of musical style I can listen to and enjoy.
Yes, i listen to Princes new material when its reported on here, the curiousity remains. But i dont have any hopes he will release a new Sign of the Times or even a Gold Experience in the near future. If anything, that is what the last 15 years of his career has shown to me.
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Reply #106 posted 01/10/10 2:28pm

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No, you are not alone. I have only been a Prince fan for five years but I think what happened is that I overdid it lol I listened to so much music in such little time. However, I do agree. He's not interesting nowadays. I'd much rather listen to Gaga than him.
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Reply #107 posted 01/11/10 9:16am

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My take on some of Prince's lack of artistic development in the past decade is that he's making music that he perceives his core fans want; hence, MPLS SOUND, F.U.N.K. and the rock stuff. Which is cool for some. RAINBOW CHILDREN, ONE NITE ALONE, being originals. MUSICOLOGY was different for him, but plain for the music world. 3121 had some interesting things going on, some rehash, PLANET EARTH rehash, things that could have been done in the 90's. If you want to sound plain, do it for another artist, like Bria on ELIXIR where it worked great.

He's grown too comfy with the same guitar setup/sounds, the same instrumentions, the same stock synths. LOTUSFLOW3R finally started using more gtr. effects, but still same punchy Mesa Boogie sound. The synths sound thin, stock, not layered or tweaked enough.

I'm mean the performances/application are flawless and genuis. But we need some originality again. We need depth. He needs an engineer like David Rivkin again when they experimented with underwater guitars and such things like on U GOT THE LOOK. Just go for a goal of pure original sound like he did in 80's, which still influences today, listen to the drum machine on Lady Gaga RELOADED. He needs to press buttons again and if it means dropping the "great" million dollar studio rooms and joining the Amish with no electrics using pots and pans so be it. Maybe he's already done it, he records enuff -- we don't hear it all. Release it baby! razz
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Reply #108 posted 01/11/10 9:28am

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what gets on my tits is how he talks about songs we'll never hear and
say "the world is not ready for this".

if ever we've been ready, it's right now.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #109 posted 01/11/10 9:43am

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im bored by this site. probably my last day here. just cant get 'into' it. confused
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Reply #110 posted 01/11/10 9:54am

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Someone may not like his 2000s output, o.k., fine...

But if you honestly want to tell me that "TRC" wasn't adventurous, or that "3121" (the song) with its dissonant guitars and the overlayed altered vocals wasn't something fresh, that you found the minimalism of "Black Sweat" boring, or his take on potential modern R'n'B with "Love", that you've been bored with the SNL version of "Fury", or that you don't hear any urgency in "Planet Earth" (the song) with its guitar solo - well, are you serious then???

Please ask yourself if there is any other pop artist out there you are as enthusiastic about as you've been with the Prince of, let's say, 1980-1988. Could it be that you have changed as well?
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Reply #111 posted 01/11/10 10:12am

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I think a fan should not be a fan only when his idol is high level or within a commercial market rating also think that music today is very low compared to the works of other years, Current demand is lacking in quality and not last over time. Prince has always sought to innovate and explore their own interests without taking into account the market.
Forever in my life...
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Reply #112 posted 01/11/10 11:02am

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EmancipationLover said:

Someone may not like his 2000s output, o.k., fine...

But if you honestly want to tell me that "TRC" wasn't adventurous, or that "3121" (the song) with its dissonant guitars and the overlayed altered vocals wasn't something fresh, that you found the minimalism of "Black Sweat" boring, or his take on potential modern R'n'B with "Love", that you've been bored with the SNL version of "Fury", or that you don't hear any urgency in "Planet Earth" (the song) with its guitar solo - well, are you serious then???

Please ask yourself if there is any other pop artist out there you are as enthusiastic about as you've been with the Prince of, let's say, 1980-1988. Could it be that you have changed as well?


I think Prince's output in the 00's had some merits, but that to me had more to do with the respectability of the albums. They were well crafted, nostalgic and with politely grown up, inoffensive experiments.
The exception to this of course being The Rainbow Children, which I find awfully flawed (I don't have to get into that do I? I'm sure the search function can pull up a million threads why it's flawed and why it isn't), though it musically was a route I would have hoped Prince would explore more.

But Black Sweat being anything but a (granted: excellent) re-write of past glories to the extent that you suddenly go "Hey where's the scream .. oh, yeah that's not that song", seems to me to be quite a stretch. Frankly, I think Pharrell Williams has been more successful at re-vamping Prince's sounds and at building upon what Prince did (and that I say, even though I don't really swing to any of Pharrell's beats).

The urgency of Planet Earth I'd also call .. erhm .. less than stellar. To me that particular song seems to be Prince forcing Michael Jacksons Earth/We Are The../Heal The../ect. with that of Beat It together in a "Earth" edition of Diamonds and Pearls.

Not I'm ging to address every single song Prince has done in the past ten years, but though I like most of them for what they are .. small hobby-type songs from a guy who can do so much more, none of them come close to being innovative, fresh or with any urgency.
I'd have to look at acts like M.I.A. to get that:
"F*ck it, I'm F'cking gonna put this weird as* sh*t in the mix and see what happens. I'm gonna make people dance 'till their feet bleed" (no you can't compare the two in as such, but it's that energy she has, that Prince once had too). Neither have I been a fan in the past 20 years, so I can hardly say how it was to eagerly anticipate what his next move after Parade would be, so I can't say I've changed, since I first discovered him years upon years after his prime.

It's not that Prince can't do it though. When I put on Silicon, I think "Funk me, old nack.. you can do it, if you want to". The question is then .. why won't he? Too content? Too rich?

Or maybe it's because he's just growing older, like everybody else, and like every other 50+ years old rock stars, he mellows and only creates new music so he can have a reason to tour. And I'm fine with that. Settle down, Prince. Embrace the mucisian you are today. Go make some jazz records or whatever you'd like ... All of that would be a respectable end to a glorious and turbulent career, only, he still tries to project an image of himself as one who re-invents the wheel again and again, it seems.
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Reply #113 posted 01/11/10 11:12am

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Joyinrepatition said:

datdude said:

he's still the only artist that gets me to the "store" on GP. u NEVER know what ur going to get and i find that even if the album is uneven, there are usually several gems that i like immediately or that grow on me. he's still extremely interesting and innovative to me. i like his "deeper" stuff and like most here it seems. i'm not put off by his spirituality. i'm so glad i don't get caught up in nostalgia as it relates to him

BAAAM i like you smile


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Reply #114 posted 01/11/10 11:16am

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Cravens said:

EmancipationLover said:

Someone may not like his 2000s output, o.k., fine...

But if you honestly want to tell me that "TRC" wasn't adventurous, or that "3121" (the song) with its dissonant guitars and the overlayed altered vocals wasn't something fresh, that you found the minimalism of "Black Sweat" boring, or his take on potential modern R'n'B with "Love", that you've been bored with the SNL version of "Fury", or that you don't hear any urgency in "Planet Earth" (the song) with its guitar solo - well, are you serious then???

Please ask yourself if there is any other pop artist out there you are as enthusiastic about as you've been with the Prince of, let's say, 1980-1988. Could it be that you have changed as well?


I think Prince's output in the 00's had some merits, but that to me had more to do with the respectability of the albums. They were well crafted, nostalgic and with politely grown up, inoffensive experiments.
The exception to this of course being The Rainbow Children, which I find awfully flawed (I don't have to get into that do I? I'm sure the search function can pull up a million threads why it's flawed and why it isn't), though it musically was a route I would have hoped Prince would explore more.

But Black Sweat being anything but a (granted: excellent) re-write of past glories to the extent that you suddenly go "Hey where's the scream .. oh, yeah that's not that song", seems to me to be quite a stretch. Frankly, I think Pharrell Williams has been more successful at re-vamping Prince's sounds and at building upon what Prince did (and that I say, even though I don't really swing to any of Pharrell's beats).

The urgency of Planet Earth I'd also call .. erhm .. less than stellar. To me that particular song seems to be Prince forcing Michael Jacksons Earth/We Are The../Heal The../ect. with that of Beat It together in a "Earth" edition of Diamonds and Pearls.

Not I'm ging to address every single song Prince has done in the past ten years, but though I like most of them for what they are .. small hobby-type songs from a guy who can do so much more, none of them come close to being innovative, fresh or with any urgency.
I'd have to look at acts like M.I.A. to get that:
"F*ck it, I'm F'cking gonna put this weird as* sh*t in the mix and see what happens. I'm gonna make people dance 'till their feet bleed" (no you can't compare the two in as such, but it's that energy she has, that Prince once had too). Neither have I been a fan in the past 20 years, so I can hardly say how it was to eagerly anticipate what his next move after Parade would be, so I can't say I've changed, since I first discovered him years upon years after his prime.

It's not that Prince can't do it though. When I put on Silicon, I think "Funk me, old nack.. you can do it, if you want to". The question is then .. why won't he? Too content? Too rich?

Or maybe it's because he's just growing older, like everybody else, and like every other 50+ years old rock stars, he mellows and only creates new music so he can have a reason to tour. And I'm fine with that. Settle down, Prince. Embrace the mucisian you are today. Go make some jazz records or whatever you'd like ... All of that would be a respectable end to a glorious and turbulent career, only, he still tries to project an image of himself as one who re-invents the wheel again and again, it seems.
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But isn't TRC a good example???

People always say he's doing his stuff on auto pilot. Yet, when he makes a religiously inspired concept album with (as some think) partially provocative lyrics, it's not the experimentalism they want. Same with N.E.W.S.: it might be too light for some people's taste, yet it was something new Prince hasn't done before. Same with "Xpectation"...

I still can't figure out what folks dislike about "Lotusflow3r" - it's guitar based, organic in sound, not overproduced. Give it 10 years and people will love it, just as they love "Chaos and Disorder" now. wink
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Reply #115 posted 01/11/10 11:19am

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EmancipationLover said:

Someone may not like his 2000s output, o.k., fine...

But if you honestly want to tell me that "TRC" wasn't adventurous, or that "3121" (the song) with its dissonant guitars and the overlayed altered vocals wasn't something fresh, that you found the minimalism of "Black Sweat" boring, or his take on potential modern R'n'B with "Love", that you've been bored with the SNL version of "Fury", or that you don't hear any urgency in "Planet Earth" (the song) with its guitar solo - well, are you serious then???

Please ask yourself if there is any other pop artist out there you are as enthusiastic about as you've been with the Prince of, let's say, 1980-1988. Could it be that you have changed as well?



Well said. People do change and the music they grew up with is often given special consideration.

I choose albums like Musicology, 3121, Planet Earth, and Lotusflow3r over Diamonds and Pearls and prince anyday of the week. I mean, how are you gonna pick "The Max" or "The Flow" over the funk of "3121"?

Call me crazy, but the Prince pop albums of the 00's sound like Prince being Prince. He's is satisfied being himself and so am I.

You wanna talk about desperate grabs to stay "current" talk Diamonds and Pearls and Tony M. Give me "Black Sweat" over "Jughead". I choose Tamar, the Twins, Cora, Bria, etc over the Gameboyz any day of the week.

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Reply #116 posted 01/11/10 11:46am

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LeanderWapshot said:

I have spent most of my life as an immense Prince fan. However, I have no hope whatsoever that he will do anything interesting again. There have been a few moments of pleasing music in the last ten or so years, but the Prince who put out songs that didn't sound like anything else, that had great vocal arrangements, the Prince who could allow healthy collaboration, and who didn't record music out of fear of being irrelevant is long gone.
For me, you'd have to go back well over a decade to find an album that was interesting and high-calibur.
Why am I here? I think I was bored and I sometimes check this site out, but I have never been less enthusiastic about Prince.



No....the bootlegs that keep coming out and the raw footage of concerts I have never seen keep me going on downtime.
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Reply #117 posted 01/11/10 11:46am

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But isn't TRC a good example???

People always say he's doing his stuff on auto pilot. Yet, when he makes a religiously inspired concept album with (as some think) partially provocative lyrics, it's not the experimentalism they want. Same with N.E.W.S.: it might be too light for some people's taste, yet it was something new Prince hasn't done before. Same with "Xpectation"...

I still can't figure out what folks dislike about "Lotusflow3r" - it's guitar based, organic in sound, not overproduced. Give it 10 years and people will love it, just as they love "Chaos and Disorder" now. wink


Well, I agree. I really (reallyreally) dislike the theme and lyrics of The Rainbow Children, but I do dig the music. My dislike of the lyrics however is in essence my own problem, I can respect the man's faith. And as for N.E.W.S. - I actually like that one as well. Not that it's a great jazz record, but it's a note worthy (non-canon) little stab at trying new things for Prince. I could be happy, if he elaborated musically on that genre in future releases, and perhaps found a sound that was more unique, perchance even offered the genre a little bit of his own personality.

But when I'm "bored" of Prince, I'm practically speaking of Musicology and up. With TRC and N.E.W.S. (and even One Nite Alone) prior to his mainstream comeback you could say that Prince showed new sides to himself and a fresh curiosity to some new stuff. I can't truly say, that anything on Musicology and afterwards has given me hints of a man who's still in the "game" for the sake of turning over more stones and looking at what he can find underneath.

And that's probably fine, as EmancipationLover said, it's Prince being Prince in a sort of content manner, but I'm not excited about it, more like "Oh, you got a new one? Good for you, Prince".
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Reply #118 posted 01/11/10 11:55am

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really bored?
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Reply #119 posted 01/11/10 8:34pm

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nod you're alone!
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I SECOND THAT!! THAT SEXY LITTLE MAN STILL ROX MY SOCKS!! AND THAT WILL NEVER CHANGE!!!smile)<3333 LET HIS PURPLE RAIN LIVE ON!!! lol biggrin wink razz cool
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Forums > Prince: Music and More > Am I alone in being totally bored by Prince?