independent and unofficial
Prince fan community
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Prince: Music and More > prince said
« Previous topic  Next topic »
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Author

Tweet     Share

Message
Thread started 12/24/09 3:50pm

TrevorAyer

prince said

the npg were more funky than the revolution

but i think the revolution are way way way way way more funky than the npg

what do u think?
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1 posted 12/24/09 4:09pm

zaza

You want to disagree with Prince?! no no no!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #2 posted 12/24/09 4:12pm

facedown7

avatar

I think (course my posts are ignored) Both bands were equally funky in their own way.
"3 1 2 1"
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #3 posted 12/24/09 4:12pm

myfavorite

avatar

I AM PRINCE!!!!! ...lol


we became one long ago...and i benn tryna drop him ever since!!!!!
THE B EST BE YOURSELF AS LONG AS YOUR SELF ISNT A DYCK[/r]

**....Someti
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #4 posted 12/24/09 4:12pm

ernestsewell

The mid-90's NPG would have put the Revolution on their tail. Sonny T and Michael B were, and still are, one of the funkiest rhythm sections ever. Put Tommy and Morris over that, and they're BAD ASS.

The Revolution was funky because for many of those guys, it was their only gig to that point. Brownmark and Bobby hadn't been in another band, neither had Fink necessarily. Wendy was fresh out of high school when she joined the band. Lisa was young too. They played well because they played together, often, and for a long time. But when you have folks like Sonny and Michael that had been in bands well before that point (wasn't Sonny in Jesse's revue?), they have a whole different vibe. Tommy had played a LOT before he joined up w/ the NPG in 1991. Morris had too. Therein lies the difference: history and experience.

The Revolution was like spoons in a drawer. They just snapped into place when put together. Always in the same groove.

The NPG in the mid-90's was more like a junk drawer. It had everything you needed at one glance, and most everything fit perfectly in pocket. But watch out.....you go in that drawer tryin' to grab something, and ya gonna get hurt! dancing jig
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #5 posted 12/24/09 4:15pm

bashraka

The NPG with Michael B, Sonny T, and Tommy Barberella was a much tighter and technically accomplished rhythm section than the Revolution in my opinion. Individually the NPG had rhythm section players(sonny t was a better bassist than Brown Mark/Michael B is one of the best drummers I ever heard) however, as a unit I gotta go with The Revolution especially during the Parade/Hit N Run era. The way they played and perfectly segued from one musical passage to the next was remarkable.
3121 #1 THIS YEAR
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #6 posted 12/24/09 4:30pm

fingertips

avatar

i love pizza .. which ones better?shit just give it to me ..
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #7 posted 12/24/09 4:55pm

TrevorAyer

i just feel like the npg was more like canned funk ... especially with those stale hip hop beats ... which isnt funk ... but listining to the revolution either from purple rain era ... like possessed or all day all nite (can u tell which show ive been digging lately) or irrisistable bitch ...or if u hit up a classic track like mountains or new position or i wonder u .. they all have these very simple yet interweaving rythms and i will admit there was a time when i dug npg but in a way they kind of bore me big time .. sure there was sexy mf and gett off but they also seemed more rock orientated .. like a r n b band playing rock where as the revolution came off like a jazz band playing funk and ultimately if i just looked at them i would probably think they were pretty funkless (funkless would be a good song title ps) but america ... pop life ... 17 days ... erotic city ... even something in the water sounded funky ... somethin about it really does it for me ... then u have a song like 'now' which acts like its supposed to be funky but has more of the energy of a rock show ... gold chaos all rock ... symbol a little funk but more r n b and pop .. diamonds .. just a couple funky songs ... mostly pop ... yes very polished band but still i think the revolution brought the funk like no other line up
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #8 posted 12/24/09 4:57pm

skoolteecher

Apples and oranges.
The objectives of these two bands were different.
They served their respective purposes equally well.
confused
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #9 posted 12/24/09 5:17pm

playerinthesun
shine

Here we are folks< the dream we all dream of....
Boy vs. Girl in the world series of love...
A whole lot better, than the fools he left here......
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #10 posted 12/25/09 5:57pm

TrevorAyer

playerinthesunshine said:

Here we are folks< the dream we all dream of....
Boy vs. Girl in the world series of love...



slam it!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #11 posted 12/25/09 10:03pm

yankem

avatar

ernestsewell said:

The mid-90's NPG would have put the Revolution on their tail. Sonny T and Michael B were, and still are, one of the funkiest rhythm sections ever. Put Tommy and Morris over that, and they're BAD ASS.

The Revolution was funky because for many of those guys, it was their only gig to that point. Brownmark and Bobby hadn't been in another band, neither had Fink necessarily. Wendy was fresh out of high school when she joined the band. Lisa was young too. They played well because they played together, often, and for a long time. But when you have folks like Sonny and Michael that had been in bands well before that point (wasn't Sonny in Jesse's revue?), they have a whole different vibe. Tommy had played a LOT before he joined up w/ the NPG in 1991. Morris had too. Therein lies the difference: history and experience.

The Revolution was like spoons in a drawer. They just snapped into place when put together. Always in the same groove.

The NPG in the mid-90's was more like a junk drawer. It had everything you needed at one glance, and most everything fit perfectly in pocket. But watch out.....you go in that drawer tryin' to grab something, and ya gonna get hurt! dancing jig



Yes, Sonny was on the Shockadelica album (try to recognise him on the pic with all this make up !!!!)
"open your heart, open your mind
A train is leaving all day..."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #12 posted 12/25/09 10:31pm

ernestsewell

yankem said:

Yes, Sonny was on the Shockadelica album (try to recognise him on the pic with all this make up !!!!)

Yeah, sounds right. I knew he was in the mix somewhere.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #13 posted 12/25/09 10:34pm

Paris9748430

I tend to agree, but it also depends on what they're playing.

The NPG during the Diamonds & Pearls/Act 1 & 2 weren't that funky.

The NPG during the Gold Experience era. Hella Funky!!!

The NPG during the Empancipation era. Not funky.

During the Rave era, even though Larry Graham was his bass player the band wasn't that funky. Although, Larry normally makes any band funkier.

The band from the One Nite Alone-Musicology Tour was extremely funky. They definitely had some moments where they were funkier than the Revolution.

The NPG now with the Dunham's aren't funkier than the Revolution. I don't really like Josh as a bass player, but I like Cora's drumming quite a bit. Since they're a package deal, we just have to deal with him.

He's definitely the least funky Bass Player Prince has ever had.
JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #14 posted 12/26/09 7:01am

Dave1992

The mid 90s NPG was the epitome of FUNK.




End of story.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #15 posted 12/26/09 7:12am

Marrk

avatar

Funny how P described the Revolution as cold and electronic and yet, that's how music is today. That's where Prince has been influencial, not too much of a leap from the 1999 album & Erotic City to Gaga and co.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #16 posted 12/26/09 7:35am

ernestsewell

Marrk said:

Funny how P described the Revolution as cold and electronic and yet, that's how music is today. That's where Prince has been influencial, not too much of a leap from the 1999 album & Erotic City to Gaga and co.

Prince is once again shitting on his past. It's a bit hypocritical too, isn't it? How many times has he sent a song to Wendy and Lisa to work on it, over the years? He's played with W&L at least twice in the past few years, had most of the Revolution in tow in 2000 or 2001 at the Celebration. He fights so hard to turn his back on his past - the same past that got him where he's at today, the same past that made him the star he claims to be, the same past that he cannot ever change, the same past that he goes back to more than he'll ever admit. He doesn't want to do old stuff? Hmmm, what was the name of disk 2 on his last album? MPLSound. He hyped it as a blast to the past, his "old" sound, yet it was neither.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #17 posted 12/26/09 7:40am

Marrk

avatar

ernestsewell said:

Marrk said:

Funny how P described the Revolution as cold and electronic and yet, that's how music is today. That's where Prince has been influencial, not too much of a leap from the 1999 album & Erotic City to Gaga and co.

Prince is once again shitting on his past. It's a bit hypocritical too, isn't it? How many times has he sent a song to Wendy and Lisa to work on it, over the years? He's played with W&L at least twice in the past few years, had most of the Revolution in tow in 2000 or 2001 at the Celebration. He fights so hard to turn his back on his past - the same past that got him where he's at today, the same past that made him the star he claims to be, the same past that he cannot ever change, the same past that he goes back to more than he'll ever admit. He doesn't want to do old stuff? Hmmm, what was the name of disk 2 on his last album? MPLSound. He hyped it as a blast to the past, his "old" sound, yet it was neither.


To be fair Ernest, he said that years ago, not yesterday or something. lol
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #18 posted 12/26/09 7:43am

ernestsewell

Marrk said:

ernestsewell said:


Prince is once again shitting on his past. It's a bit hypocritical too, isn't it? How many times has he sent a song to Wendy and Lisa to work on it, over the years? He's played with W&L at least twice in the past few years, had most of the Revolution in tow in 2000 or 2001 at the Celebration. He fights so hard to turn his back on his past - the same past that got him where he's at today, the same past that made him the star he claims to be, the same past that he cannot ever change, the same past that he goes back to more than he'll ever admit. He doesn't want to do old stuff? Hmmm, what was the name of disk 2 on his last album? MPLSound. He hyped it as a blast to the past, his "old" sound, yet it was neither.


To be fair Ernest, he said that years ago, not yesterday or something. lol

Might be, but my statements are still true. I know he didn't JUST say it last week or something. He's pooped on The Revolution for ages since 1986.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #19 posted 12/26/09 2:30pm

babynoz

ernestsewell said:

The mid-90's NPG would have put the Revolution on their tail. Sonny T and Michael B were, and still are, one of the funkiest rhythm sections ever. Put Tommy and Morris over that, and they're BAD ASS.

The Revolution was funky because for many of those guys, it was their only gig to that point. Brownmark and Bobby hadn't been in another band, neither had Fink necessarily. Wendy was fresh out of high school when she joined the band. Lisa was young too. They played well because they played together, often, and for a long time. But when you have folks like Sonny and Michael that had been in bands well before that point (wasn't Sonny in Jesse's revue?), they have a whole different vibe. Tommy had played a LOT before he joined up w/ the NPG in 1991. Morris had too. Therein lies the difference: history and experience.

The Revolution was like spoons in a drawer. They just snapped into place when put together. Always in the same groove.

The NPG in the mid-90's was more like a junk drawer. It had everything you needed at one glance, and most everything fit perfectly in pocket. But watch out.....you go in that drawer tryin' to grab something, and ya gonna get hurt! dancing jig



yeahthat
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #20 posted 12/26/09 2:32pm

Harlepolis

I think his band circa 87-88 could floor ALL of his bands before and after.
[Edited 12/26/09 14:32pm]
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #21 posted 12/26/09 2:41pm

muirdo

avatar

Dave1992 said:

The mid 90s NPG was the epitome of FUNK.




End of story.



and that from someone who was 3 or 4 or 5 tops,at the time
He was pop driven in the 90's,funk came before you even existed.
Fuck the funk - it's time to ditch the worn-out Vegas horns fills, pick up the geee-tar and finally ROCK THE MUTHA-FUCKER!! He hinted at this on Chaos, now it's time to step up and fully DELIVER!!
woot!
KrystleEyes 22/03/05
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #22 posted 12/27/09 3:10am

Dave1992

muirdo said:

Dave1992 said:

The mid 90s NPG was the epitome of FUNK.




End of story.



and that from someone who was 3 or 4 or 5 tops,at the time
He was pop driven in the 90's,funk came before you even existed.


If age is all you have to verify your opinion - yes, honey, you are right.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #23 posted 12/27/09 12:00pm

TrevorAyer

i was mostly refering to the gold exodus line up to which prince seemed to be saying that his old band never could be as funky as this line up and basically i didnt think that line up was not all that funky ... more cheesy than funky ... i was initially impressed with the line up expecially with exodus .. i loved it for a long time but as time passed i found it very blaze realizing the beats didn't really have that much life to them and the band didn't really add much to the funkyness to the songs .. in fact the beat was really the only funky element going ... whereas the revolution aged with time, i can still go back an listen and it seems to get even funkier .. picking out the subtle little things interweaving ... a song like erotic city blending in with all the critics .. just great moments like that that never really came out of the npg in my opinion.

but what i really wanted to say was that i will give props for xenophobia on the ona live box ... that was funky .. still love that song


Paris9748430 said:

I tend to agree, but it also depends on what they're playing.

The NPG during the Diamonds & Pearls/Act 1 & 2 weren't that funky.

The NPG during the Gold Experience era. Hella Funky!!!

The NPG during the Empancipation era. Not funky.

During the Rave era, even though Larry Graham was his bass player the band wasn't that funky. Although, Larry normally makes any band funkier.

The band from the One Nite Alone-Musicology Tour was extremely funky. They definitely had some moments where they were funkier than the Revolution.

The NPG now with the Dunham's aren't funkier than the Revolution. I don't really like Josh as a bass player, but I like Cora's drumming quite a bit. Since they're a package deal, we just have to deal with him.

He's definitely the least funky Bass Player Prince has ever had.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #24 posted 12/27/09 12:21pm

JesusFreak

avatar

The NPG may be funkier & more technical

but the Revolution was FAR more rock n' roll
& that's simply all that mattter
"Not to sound cosmic, but I've made plans for the next 3,000 years," he says. "Before, it was only three days at a time."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Prince: Music and More > prince said