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MyNameIsCally said: Short Version: How do you feel about Prince's fans reactions to his Religion? Are they fair or do you feel they take it too far? What's so bad about Prince being a JW? Discuss  1) I actually think his fans react fair to his new faith. I mean, most of his fans are from way back in the 80's (for "some" reason he ain't making a lot of new fans), and back in the days, Prince as a whole was a totally different deal. He was more about melting things, breaking down walls and making people come together (black and white, gay and straight, men and women), whereas now he is the exact opposite, pointing at his little book and postulating that this and that is wrong (though a week later, he may say he was quoted wrong and say some obvious lie, to try and balance his public image with that of JW). It's almost as if his real name today should be The Artist Formerly Known as Prince. 2) His new found faith is of course great for the man himself. Cheers and applauds to anyone who can find an anchor in their lives, but .. now that he's a JW's he seems to think he got all the answers, and frankly, there's nothing more dull than a popstar who thinks they've figured it all out. Prince was exciting when he was searching, but dreadfully boring now that he's turned to preaching. 3) His level of faith, as portrayed by himself in the media that is, is rather obnoxious. Madonna's Kabbalah faith was never this irritating, since she figured that her paying fans was there for her music, not for her preaching technique. 4) There's also this thing about JW, that drives Prince to address how other people live in sin*). I find it hypocritical, that a man who wants to spend airtime (so to speak) on condemning men who likes to sit their asses on blunt meat sticks and women who likes carpet, as if it was any of his business, can't accept and most likely is outraged by fans who have anything critical to say about his own conduct. 5) And finally.. how can a man who almost seems to fancy himself a demi god, one who seems to find himself being a better person than the common people, believe in a higher being than himself? Can a narcissist, who claims everybody is wrong about him, even though everybody seems to be consistently and independently arriving at the same conclusions about him, really beleive in others than himself? Please note, that I'm not saying he is a narcessist, only that he showcases himself as such in the media and in his music. *) Before the JW tear me apart on that one, I'm basing this JW's claim on other who live in sin on the constant brochures and printings I get in the mail, that keep telling me that he or she are living in deep sin. [Edited 1/10/10 12:21pm] [Edited 1/10/10 12:24pm] |
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futurebaybeemama said: If you dont stand for something you will fall for anything. Prince has taken a stand and that is commendable in world of wavering ideals, justice and principles.
Marriage for example is a vow to join two people together in holy matrimony forever. Marriage mates taking a "stand" for one another with love and deep respect. How beautiful is that! The reality is the ever climbing divorce rate and infidelity with people that see grass as greener on the other side. Only to find out the grass insnt greener and the same problems that werent addressed before, come up again! Spiritual needs are met through study and application of God's perfect law and wisdom in your heart and mind. Whether choosing a religion or a mate, choose wisely and "stand" by it. Assuming Prince has a reverence for God and moral principles of course he will not want to curse or write about anything that borders on an immoral lifestyle. Out of the hearts abundance the mouth speaks. I believe we all have an accounting with God according to our deeds. He sees the secret person of the heart. Maybe Prince knows that and is trying to do his best to be a better man. What is so bad about any of that? The fact its intolerant, what about non Christians, gays and non religious people. Calling us immoral borders on hate and insult. I am an atheist, socialist Homosexual person of colour and proud of it. [Edited 1/11/10 17:00pm] So what are u going 2 do? R u just gonna sit there and watch? I'm not gonna stop until the war is over. Its gonna take a long time | |
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Cravens said: MyNameIsCally said: Short Version: How do you feel about Prince's fans reactions to his Religion? Are they fair or do you feel they take it too far? What's so bad about Prince being a JW? Discuss 1) I actually think his fans react fair to his new faith. I mean, most of his fans are from way back in the 80's (for "some" reason he ain't making a lot of new fans), and back in the days, Prince as a whole was a totally different deal. He was more about melting things, breaking down walls and making people come together (black and white, gay and straight, men and women), whereas now he is the exact opposite, pointing at his little book and postulating that this and that is wrong (though a week later, he may say he was quoted wrong and say some obvious lie, to try and balance his public image with that of JW). It's almost as if his real name today should be The Artist Formerly Known as Prince. 2) His new found faith is of course great for the man himself. Cheers and applauds to anyone who can find an anchor in their lives, but .. now that he's a JW's he seems to think he got all the answers, and frankly, there's nothing more dull than a popstar who thinks they've figured it all out. Prince was exciting when he was searching, but dreadfully boring now that he's turned to preaching. 3) His level of faith, as portrayed by himself in the media that is, is rather obnoxious. Madonna's Kabbalah faith was never this irritating, since she figured that her paying fans was there for her music, not for her preaching technique. 4) There's also this thing about JW, that drives Prince to address how other people live in sin*). I find it hypocritical, that a man who wants to spend airtime (so to speak) on condemning men who likes to sit their asses on blunt meat sticks and women who likes carpet, as if it was any of his business, can't accept and most likely is outraged by fans who have anything critical to say about his own conduct. 5) And finally.. how can a man who almost seems to fancy himself a demi god, one who seems to find himself being a better person than the common people, believe in a higher being than himself? Can a narcissist, who claims everybody is wrong about him, even though everybody seems to be consistently and independently arriving at the same conclusions about him, really beleive in others than himself? Please note, that I'm not saying he is a narcessist, only that he showcases himself as such in the media and in his music. *) Before the JW tear me apart on that one, I'm basing this JW's claim on other who live in sin on the constant brochures and printings I get in the mail, that keep telling me that he or she are living in deep sin. [Edited 1/10/10 12:21pm] [Edited 1/10/10 12:24pm] Truth be told, it is only a relatively small (albeit vocal) contingent represented here a prince.org and such, that would even bother to bitch and moan about Prince being a Jehovah's Witness. A huge section of the fan base doesn't give a shit either way. I am just old/young enough to be a fan from "way back in the 80's" and it doesn't bother me in the slightest. A few reasons why: Prince still sings about sexual bliss and the gloriously naughty. "Wet circles 'round the toy, while U bring urself 2 joy."---- Prince: Rainbow Children Prince has been preachy at least since 1985. Prince and the Revolution: LIVE!--- Prince: "Who screamed? Was it U? Did it matter who ate of the apple 1st? The end result was negative." "Don't confused, there is only one Lord....Jesus." To me, the Prince of the 21st century is more of a return to form from that confused pop star of the 90's who was trying to figure out who he was by rapping, and writing slave on his face. Don't get me wrong, I love The Gold Experience era, but being a fan since 2001 onwards has been more fun than most of the 90's. Uh, except for the lack of Paisley parties every weekend. I do miss those. [Edited 1/11/10 19:09pm] "New Power slide...." |
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skywalker said: Cravens said: 1) I actually think his fans react fair to his new faith. I mean, most of his fans are from way back in the 80's (for "some" reason he ain't making a lot of new fans), and back in the days, Prince as a whole was a totally different deal. He was more about melting things, breaking down walls and making people come together (black and white, gay and straight, men and women), whereas now he is the exact opposite, pointing at his little book and postulating that this and that is wrong (though a week later, he may say he was quoted wrong and say some obvious lie, to try and balance his public image with that of JW). It's almost as if his real name today should be The Artist Formerly Known as Prince. 2) His new found faith is of course great for the man himself. Cheers and applauds to anyone who can find an anchor in their lives, but .. now that he's a JW's he seems to think he got all the answers, and frankly, there's nothing more dull than a popstar who thinks they've figured it all out. Prince was exciting when he was searching, but dreadfully boring now that he's turned to preaching. 3) His level of faith, as portrayed by himself in the media that is, is rather obnoxious. Madonna's Kabbalah faith was never this irritating, since she figured that her paying fans was there for her music, not for her preaching technique. 4) There's also this thing about JW, that drives Prince to address how other people live in sin*). I find it hypocritical, that a man who wants to spend airtime (so to speak) on condemning men who likes to sit their asses on blunt meat sticks and women who likes carpet, as if it was any of his business, can't accept and most likely is outraged by fans who have anything critical to say about his own conduct. 5) And finally.. how can a man who almost seems to fancy himself a demi god, one who seems to find himself being a better person than the common people, believe in a higher being than himself? Can a narcissist, who claims everybody is wrong about him, even though everybody seems to be consistently and independently arriving at the same conclusions about him, really beleive in others than himself? Please note, that I'm not saying he is a narcessist, only that he showcases himself as such in the media and in his music. *) Before the JW tear me apart on that one, I'm basing this JW's claim on other who live in sin on the constant brochures and printings I get in the mail, that keep telling me that he or she are living in deep sin. [Edited 1/10/10 12:21pm] [Edited 1/10/10 12:24pm] Truth be told, it is only a relatively small (albeit vocal) contingent represented here a prince.org and such, that would even bother to bitch and moan about Prince being a Jehovah's Witness. A huge section of the fan base doesn't give a shit either way. I am just old/young enough to be a fan from "way back in the 80's" and it doesn't bother me in the slightest. A few reasons why: Prince still sings about sexual bliss and the gloriously naughty. "Wet circles 'round the toy, while U bring urself 2 joy."---- Prince: Rainbow Children Prince has been preachy at least since 1985. Prince and the Revolution: LIVE!--- Prince: "Who screamed? Was it U? Did it matter who ate of the apple 1st? The end result was negative." "Don't confused, there is only one Lord....Jesus." To me, the Prince of the 21st century is more of a return to form from that confused pop star of the 90's who was trying to figure out who he was by rapping, and writing slave on his face. Don't get me wrong, I love The Gold Experience era, but being a fan since 2001 onwards has been more fun than most of the 90's. Uh, except for the lack of Paisley parties every weekend. I do miss those. [Edited 1/11/10 19:09pm] And then there is the one line from that one song where I believe Prince summed himself up best... "You are my God, I am your child, from now on I promise to be wild...." Lovesexy album, I may have a couple words wrong, but for the most part. that is it. We are all so full of  here | |
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funksterr said: Nothing is bad about it. The problem is Prince, not the JW. If you listen to his music since his conversion it all has an undercurrent of negativity and bitterness. Not what you would expect from someone enjoying some sort of spiritual enlightenment.
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daPrettyman said: Why r people so concerned with his religion?
because religion can change a lot same reason Michael Jackson didn't perform Thriller at the Victory Tour because of the JW | |
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thelovedoveabove said: daPrettyman said: Why r people so concerned with his religion?
because religion can change a lot same reason Michael Jackson didn't perform Thriller at the Victory Tour because of the JW Religion itself ain't the problem.....but the JW religion is a load of shite. | |
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skywalker said: Not to sing my same old song, but....
I don't think it's changed him (or his music) nearly as much as people around here exclaim. Awhile back, Prince said that looking at the cover of the lovesexy album was like looking in a mirror. If something ill came out of your mouth, that was simply a reflection of you. Same thing about Prince and his beliefs. Your thoughts and views on Prince, his art, and his faith, say a lot more about you where you're at than it says about where Prince is. Here is a sad fact that some of us may not realize: We don't actually really know Prince. As long as he keeps singing about, "..wet circles 'round the toy while u bring your self to joy..", keeps putting out new music, and keeps putting on a hellafied live show...I'm good. [Edited 12/21/09 12:38pm] Exactly The NPG Vandals Rule! | |
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skywalker said: Here is a sad fact that some of us may not realize:
We don't actually really know Prince. Sure right about that. Alot of us get too caught up in wat we know and use that to base our judgement on the man's entire being!  I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh | |
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