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Reply #30 posted 12/15/09 10:43am

Mindflux

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ernestsewell said:

aarontj said:



Specially The Pointer Sisters, Kim Karnes, Dionne Warwick, Kenny Loggins, David Paich, Jeffrey Osborne, Kenny Rogers, Steve Perry and La toya Jackson, they all going "strong", right.

Actually you might have no idea of your homework that's needed. Kenny Loggins is still touring and making music. St. Paul tours with him all the time as guitarist and keyboardist. Paul was doing lots of videos from the tour this past summer and the summer before, and the summer before. Kenny never stopped working, and he certainly didn't stall in his career in 1985 once "We Are The World" was released. It's insane to think that.

David Paich is a musician, and still working. After a bit of homework, we find that David Paich traveled to China where he worked composing theme music for the 2008 Summer Olympics. In 2009, he sang the hit song "Africa" at the Millennium Development Goals awards in New York and co-produced a new tune for George Benson. Paich was involved with the 61st Primetime Emmy Awards as a music producer and keyboardist for the on-stage band. In October 2009, David Paich was inducted into the Musicians Hall of Fame along with the other members of Toto. Yeah, he's not doing ANYTHING. rolleyes

Kenny Rogers still tours, and works and draws crowds to sell out a venue. My roommate's friend just went to his show the other day with her company. Kenny actually invited the whole group (looked to be around 30 folks) back stage for pictures and to hang out a bit.

When did LaToya have a big career anyway? It's hit and miss. So not a good example.

One of the Pointer Sisters died, so that's poor taste as an excuse.

Steve Perry, we ALL know, continued to work and release music. He did a lot of soundtrack songs. He had hip replacement surgery in 1998, so was definitely out of commission for a while.

It's weird how you cherry picked people to prove a point that doesn't exist. It's also a bit egocentric to think that because WE, as the music buying public, haven't heard what someone's doing that we assume they're doing nothing. How many people do you think knows Prince has a CD out? You know, just 3 years ago I was talking to a guy, roughly my age, and when I mentioned Prince, he said "You must miss him." I said, "What?" He thought Prince hadn't really released anything in years. We know better, but that was HIS perspective, and he hadn't been paying attention.

We also need to take down our egos and remember that any artist or musician, even Prince, doesn't OWE us an album, or a single, or a box set, or a compilation album or ANYTHING. It's their JOB, but they are also their own boss. Lionel Richie took off a few years to deal with the death of his father, and a divorce. That's his choice to take time off, and then he came back and is working consistently since. Even Jay Kay from Jamiroquai took time off to be with his newborn. Does that mean he's not "going strong"? These people aren't just sitting around thinking about the glory days, soaked in an alcoholic coma. How quickly we forget that these are just PEOPLE, human beings.

I noticed you didn't mention people like The Jacksons, Sheila E., Willie Nelson, Diana Ross, Tina Turner, Billy Joel, Lionel Richie, Hall & Oates, Cyndi Lauper, Bruce Springsteen, Paul Simon, Michael Jackson, Lindsey Buckingham. Let's not cherry pick the truth.


Great post.....and about as humble as I've ever seen you wink
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Reply #31 posted 12/15/09 11:04am

ernestsewell

Mindflux said:

Great post.....and about as humble as I've ever seen you wink

I'm the most humble person I know. LOL Besides, you and I know it has nothing to do with MY humility, or lack thereof. It's about a fans needs vs a fans dictation.
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Reply #32 posted 12/15/09 12:02pm

aarontj

ernestsewell said:

aarontj said:



Specially The Pointer Sisters, Kim Karnes, Dionne Warwick, Kenny Loggins, David Paich, Jeffrey Osborne, Kenny Rogers, Steve Perry and La toya Jackson, they all going "strong", right.

Actually you might have no idea of your homework that's needed. Kenny Loggins is still touring and making music. St. Paul tours with him all the time as guitarist and keyboardist. Paul was doing lots of videos from the tour this past summer and the summer before, and the summer before. Kenny never stopped working, and he certainly didn't stall in his career in 1985 once "We Are The World" was released. It's insane to think that.

David Paich is a musician, and still working. After a bit of homework, we find that David Paich traveled to China where he worked composing theme music for the 2008 Summer Olympics. In 2009, he sang the hit song "Africa" at the Millennium Development Goals awards in New York and co-produced a new tune for George Benson. Paich was involved with the 61st Primetime Emmy Awards as a music producer and keyboardist for the on-stage band. In October 2009, David Paich was inducted into the Musicians Hall of Fame along with the other members of Toto. Yeah, he's not doing ANYTHING. rolleyes

Kenny Rogers still tours, and works and draws crowds to sell out a venue. My roommate's friend just went to his show the other day with her company. Kenny actually invited the whole group (looked to be around 30 folks) back stage for pictures and to hang out a bit.

When did LaToya have a big career anyway? It's hit and miss. So not a good example.

One of the Pointer Sisters died, so that's poor taste as an excuse.

Steve Perry, we ALL know, continued to work and release music. He did a lot of soundtrack songs. He had hip replacement surgery in 1998, so was definitely out of commission for a while.

It's weird how you cherry picked people to prove a point that doesn't exist. It's also a bit egocentric to think that because WE, as the music buying public, haven't heard what someone's doing that we assume they're doing nothing. How many people do you think knows Prince has a CD out? You know, just 3 years ago I was talking to a guy, roughly my age, and when I mentioned Prince, he said "You must miss him." I said, "What?" He thought Prince hadn't really released anything in years. We know better, but that was HIS perspective, and he hadn't been paying attention.

We also need to take down our egos and remember that any artist or musician, even Prince, doesn't OWE us an album, or a single, or a box set, or a compilation album or ANYTHING. It's their JOB, but they are also their own boss. Lionel Richie took off a few years to deal with the death of his father, and a divorce. That's his choice to take time off, and then he came back and is working consistently since. Even Jay Kay from Jamiroquai took time off to be with his newborn. Does that mean he's not "going strong"? These people aren't just sitting around thinking about the glory days, soaked in an alcoholic coma. How quickly we forget that these are just PEOPLE, human beings.

I noticed you didn't mention people like The Jacksons, Sheila E., Willie Nelson, Diana Ross, Tina Turner, Billy Joel, Lionel Richie, Hall & Oates, Cyndi Lauper, Bruce Springsteen, Paul Simon, Michael Jackson, Lindsey Buckingham. Let's not cherry pick the truth.



All those people I mentioned, do have work, I din't say they were unemployed, I say they are not going "strong" (your word not mine) like they use to be backthen, I think that was the point when somebody ask about Huey Lewis (pop music) career, Broadway is not your stronger moment when you use to have 5 top ten singles from a single album.

So the guy from Toto is doing music for 2008 Summer Olympics, that's the equivalent of Jack White doing music for second grade cable networks.

BTW I din't knew I have to do my homework to know that almost all of the We Are the World participants keep touring, in a small cafe's or small clubs, but they keep touring (everyone knows that).

Is that "strong" like they use to?

Right. wink
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Reply #33 posted 12/15/09 12:15pm

aarontj

Mindflux said:

ernestsewell said:


Actually you might have no idea of your homework that's needed. Kenny Loggins is still touring and making music. St. Paul tours with him all the time as guitarist and keyboardist. Paul was doing lots of videos from the tour this past summer and the summer before, and the summer before. Kenny never stopped working, and he certainly didn't stall in his career in 1985 once "We Are The World" was released. It's insane to think that.

David Paich is a musician, and still working. After a bit of homework, we find that David Paich traveled to China where he worked composing theme music for the 2008 Summer Olympics. In 2009, he sang the hit song "Africa" at the Millennium Development Goals awards in New York and co-produced a new tune for George Benson. Paich was involved with the 61st Primetime Emmy Awards as a music producer and keyboardist for the on-stage band. In October 2009, David Paich was inducted into the Musicians Hall of Fame along with the other members of Toto. Yeah, he's not doing ANYTHING. rolleyes

Kenny Rogers still tours, and works and draws crowds to sell out a venue. My roommate's friend just went to his show the other day with her company. Kenny actually invited the whole group (looked to be around 30 folks) back stage for pictures and to hang out a bit.

When did LaToya have a big career anyway? It's hit and miss. So not a good example.

One of the Pointer Sisters died, so that's poor taste as an excuse.

Steve Perry, we ALL know, continued to work and release music. He did a lot of soundtrack songs. He had hip replacement surgery in 1998, so was definitely out of commission for a while.

It's weird how you cherry picked people to prove a point that doesn't exist. It's also a bit egocentric to think that because WE, as the music buying public, haven't heard what someone's doing that we assume they're doing nothing. How many people do you think knows Prince has a CD out? You know, just 3 years ago I was talking to a guy, roughly my age, and when I mentioned Prince, he said "You must miss him." I said, "What?" He thought Prince hadn't really released anything in years. We know better, but that was HIS perspective, and he hadn't been paying attention.

We also need to take down our egos and remember that any artist or musician, even Prince, doesn't OWE us an album, or a single, or a box set, or a compilation album or ANYTHING. It's their JOB, but they are also their own boss. Lionel Richie took off a few years to deal with the death of his father, and a divorce. That's his choice to take time off, and then he came back and is working consistently since. Even Jay Kay from Jamiroquai took time off to be with his newborn. Does that mean he's not "going strong"? These people aren't just sitting around thinking about the glory days, soaked in an alcoholic coma. How quickly we forget that these are just PEOPLE, human beings.

I noticed you didn't mention people like The Jacksons, Sheila E., Willie Nelson, Diana Ross, Tina Turner, Billy Joel, Lionel Richie, Hall & Oates, Cyndi Lauper, Bruce Springsteen, Paul Simon, Michael Jackson, Lindsey Buckingham. Let's not cherry pick the truth.


Great post.....and about as humble as I've ever seen you wink



He is not been humble, he is afraid, look: http://prince.org/msg/7/326027
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Reply #34 posted 12/15/09 12:42pm

ernestsewell

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All those people I mentioned, do have work, I din't say they were unemployed, I say they are not going "strong" (your word not mine) like they use to be backthen, I think that was the point when somebody ask about Huey Lewis (pop music) career, Broadway is not your stronger moment when you use to have 5 top ten singles from a single album.

So the guy from Toto is doing music for 2008 Summer Olympics, that's the equivalent of Jack White doing music for second grade cable networks.

BTW I din't knew I have to do my homework to know that almost all of the We Are the World participants keep touring, in a small cafe's or small clubs, but they keep touring (everyone knows that).

Is that "strong" like they use to?

Right. wink


But define "strong"? My point was made about what a FAN thinks is "going strong" opposed to what the artist thinks. Kenny Loggins works. He makes money, and maintains his lifestyle, and keeps his artistic juices flowing. How is that going strong? Oh wait, he doesn't have a #1 album or song. He's not on MTV. He's not winning awards on the endless string of award shows out there. Is that going strong to you? Even your touring example is lame. Few acts are selling out 50,000 seat stadiums. VERY few. "Like they used to". Well Prince ain't going strong like he used to either, in many regards.

This is a new age, and it's not about numbers anymore. There's a similar thread about what is considered a huge album. Most artists are battling to sell 500,000, if that, to gain a #1 spot the week of their album's release. Yet just 10 years ago, NSync was selling almost 2 million in one week, a million of that in the first DAY of release. That is the exception in 2009, not the rule.

All that said, your idea of "going strong" is based on old knowledge. It's not how things run today. It's not how it happens.

I think you're just trying to pick a fight for the sake of it. But .....eh.
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Reply #35 posted 12/15/09 12:43pm

ernestsewell

aarontj said:

Mindflux said:



Great post.....and about as humble as I've ever seen you wink



He is not been humble, he is afraid, look: http://prince.org/msg/7/326027

LOL Afraid. Yeah, I'm running scared on a fucking Prince forum. This thread is about old fans, vs. new fans, not your preconceived notions about a stranger. Get back on topic.
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Reply #36 posted 12/15/09 1:09pm

aarontj

ernestsewell said:

aarontj said:

All those people I mentioned, do have work, I din't say they were unemployed, I say they are not going "strong" (your word not mine) like they use to be backthen, I think that was the point when somebody ask about Huey Lewis (pop music) career, Broadway is not your stronger moment when you use to have 5 top ten singles from a single album.

So the guy from Toto is doing music for 2008 Summer Olympics, that's the equivalent of Jack White doing music for second grade cable networks.

BTW I din't knew I have to do my homework to know that almost all of the We Are the World participants keep touring, in a small cafe's or small clubs, but they keep touring (everyone knows that).

Is that "strong" like they use to?

Right. wink


But define "strong"? My point was made about what a FAN thinks is "going strong" opposed to what the artist thinks. Kenny Loggins works. He makes money, and maintains his lifestyle, and keeps his artistic juices flowing. How is that going strong? Oh wait, he doesn't have a #1 album or song. He's not on MTV. He's not winning awards on the endless string of award shows out there. Is that going strong to you? Even your touring example is lame. Few acts are selling out 50,000 seat stadiums. VERY few. "Like they used to". Well Prince ain't going strong like he used to either, in many regards.

This is a new age, and it's not about numbers anymore. There's a similar thread about what is considered a huge album. Most artists are battling to sell 500,000, if that, to gain a #1 spot the week of their album's release. Yet just 10 years ago, NSync was selling almost 2 million in one week, a million of that in the first DAY of release. That is the exception in 2009, not the rule.

All that said, your idea of "going strong" is based on old knowledge. It's not how things run today. It's not how it happens.

I think you're just trying to pick a fight for the sake of it. But .....eh.



My idea of going "strong" was based on the original post that ask where are this and that people who use to be in USA for Africa super star ensamble, I think you're the one trying to twist the topic just to look hip and "now".

But if you wanna talk about how the industry run this days your talking to the right person. It's not about the charts anymore, it's not even about been so exposed anymore, a musician can have a decent career by making music for websites or tv spots, I have friends who made enough $ to pay the rent touring really small venues, and he does not have a record contract, you don't have to work as clerks or in a stupid office to have some food while you made your art, but let's be honest, that's beyond the point of this post.

Funny how you say "I pick a fight" with you, while your popular around here for twisting comments (swear and go nuts) to get your invalid points.

Buy hey...

Love.
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Reply #37 posted 12/15/09 1:14pm

aarontj

ernestsewell said:

aarontj said:




He is not been humble, he is afraid, look: http://prince.org/msg/7/326027

LOL Afraid. Yeah, I'm running scared on a fucking Prince forum. This thread is about old fans, vs. new fans, not your preconceived notions about a stranger. Get back on topic.



Kevin Smith never goes beyond the topic, right?

(Insert here a cynical joke quoting a Prince movie to distract or get your invalid point).

I guess your the only one who can joke. Peace! wink
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Reply #38 posted 12/15/09 1:34pm

ernestsewell

aarontj said:

ernestsewell said:


LOL Afraid. Yeah, I'm running scared on a fucking Prince forum. This thread is about old fans, vs. new fans, not your preconceived notions about a stranger. Get back on topic.



Kevin Smith never goes beyond the topic, right?

(Insert here a cynical joke quoting a Prince movie to distract or get your invalid point).

I guess your the only one who can joke. Peace! wink

Not at all. I'm always up for humor. But I don't really get the humor in the Kevin Smith comments. Just not my style. But you're still kind of nit picking, and it's boring. Now again.....BACK ON TOPIC.
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Reply #39 posted 12/25/09 2:10pm

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I don't really think it matters whether you are a new fan or an older fan - it is just about musical appreciation. I grew up with Prince's early tracks but never really got into his music until in recent years. Now I am older and appreciate the older music and together with the new music - that is what I love about music, you can enjoy it at any time of your life - sometimes it just takes a while to discover it! For me I have always loved music and followed different artists at different times - I was heavily into Madonna when younger & then the band Queen - now I am in my early 40s I have mellowed and really appreciate the finer talent of Prince - like a good port.
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Reply #40 posted 12/25/09 4:13pm

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I am a Fam of him since 2006 ( so i am a newbie lol) but i think i know much of his early works and performances smile but it has takes time eek yes and i am sad too, not become a fan earlier sad
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Reply #41 posted 12/25/09 5:58pm

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Sigh...I was born in the wrong decade... neutral (1982)

While I missed out on a lot of the notorious stuff...I won't complain too much...besides, it's pretty fun learning about "old" Prince while simultaneously listening to the releases of "new" Prince

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Reply #42 posted 12/26/09 1:25am

Imago

Oh Fuck Hewie Lewis's untalented ass!

He expressed obvious displeasure at Prince & The Revolution winning several awards at the Grammies, even saying "This will come as a surprise..." when Prince won the highest honor at the AMAs. It was as if, in his mind, Prince was a quirk or a passing fad... rolleyes
Fuck Mr. Lewis. lol
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Reply #43 posted 12/26/09 2:46pm

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darkangel7077 said:

Sigh...I was born in the wrong decade... neutral (1982)

While I missed out on a lot of the notorious stuff...I won't complain too much...besides, it's pretty fun learning about "old" Prince while simultaneously listening to the releases of "new" Prince

lol


Yes I agree it is all part of the journey. What a fun ride!
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Reply #44 posted 12/26/09 4:02pm

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New fans suck. nana
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Reply #45 posted 12/26/09 4:04pm

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xtraloveable83 said:

I am a Fam of him since 2006 ( so i am a newbie lol) but i think i know much of his early works and performances smile but it has takes time eek yes and i am sad too, not become a fan earlier sad


maybe that's what I needed to hear. I grew up with the Beatles...it's going to be 50 something years since their first hit, and they are still relevant.
I just read a biography about Sir Paul McCartney, and actually learned some things I didn't know

I wonder where Prince fans will be in 2029 or so, 50 years after Prince first hit the charts...will fans of his music then, read about his early tours, his hit and run tours, the o2 concerts etc..as part of understanding his music?
I listen to his music over and over again, and especially now that I have it on my ipod, I hear new things all the time. Will they?
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Reply #46 posted 12/26/09 4:44pm

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Older fans, newer fans it doesn't matter. It's all about the music! I've been a
fan since 1978, when "For You" and "Prince" hit the radio stations.
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Reply #47 posted 12/26/09 5:36pm

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BlackAdder7 said:

Having been a prince fan since 1979 or so, I know his history...the wearing thongs onstage...the appearance on American Bandstand...The opening for the Rolling Stones...
Prince gained alot of fans after the release of Purple Rain, became an international superstar. I'm glad he didn't sing on We are the World...where's Huey Lewis now?
Perhaps he's gained new fans from his recent releases, I don't know. Perhaps people have seen him on this past years stints on the Tonite Show with jay Leno..
Do the newer fans know about Prince's history, the way that Beatles fans know about the Beatles early days in Hamburg?
What do you think?



I'm glad he didn't sing on We are the World...where's Huey Lewis now?

What the heck is that supposed to mean? Bruce Springsteen , Michael Jackson, and Stevie Wonder sung on We Are the World too. I love Prince and have been a fan since !982 when I was just 12 years old but the guy punked out . Probably got scared to be in a room where he couldn't control everything.
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Reply #48 posted 12/26/09 5:58pm

BlackAdder7

chrisslope9 said:

BlackAdder7 said:

Having been a prince fan since 1979 or so, I know his history...the wearing thongs onstage...the appearance on American Bandstand...The opening for the Rolling Stones...
Prince gained alot of fans after the release of Purple Rain, became an international superstar. I'm glad he didn't sing on We are the World...where's Huey Lewis now?
Perhaps he's gained new fans from his recent releases, I don't know. Perhaps people have seen him on this past years stints on the Tonite Show with jay Leno..
Do the newer fans know about Prince's history, the way that Beatles fans know about the Beatles early days in Hamburg?
What do you think?



I'm glad he didn't sing on We are the World...where's Huey Lewis now?

What the heck is that supposed to mean? Bruce Springsteen , Michael Jackson, and Stevie Wonder sung on We Are the World too. I love Prince and have been a fan since !982 when I was just 12 years old but the guy punked out . Probably got scared to be in a room where he couldn't control everything.


what the where's huey lewis now comment means is...
everyone was asked to do the song after the american music awards. I believe that Huey Lewis sang Prince's part. Perhaps I'm wrong on that, but I know someone sang Prince's line. When Prince didn't sing for We are the World, he received bad publicity. Do his fans remember that, or did they move on. Kinda like when John Lennon commented the Beatles were bigger than Jesus Christ. There were record burnings, etc. and the fans moved on.
The We are the World diss is part of Prince's history. Do his newer fans know about it?...do they care?
The We are the World song now is old news. Some of the artists featured on it are no longer relevant....like Huey Lewis.
Of course Bruce, and Stevie and Diana are stars...they always will be.
Huey had 3 or 4 songs in him and that was it...and yet he was on the song...
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Reply #49 posted 12/26/09 6:33pm

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I know enough to dig him... *kiss* heart
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Reply #50 posted 12/26/09 8:59pm

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So I am a new fan (since 2006) and I think it can be advantageous to be a new fan instead of an old fan. Here's why. I was first exposed to Prince when I was 15 and plucked Purple Rain out of my family's CD case and listened to it front to back. So I became a fan. Eventually, I bought my very own Prince album and it was Planet Earth and I really liked it. Now, you all seem to hate PE and that's fine but most of you haters are probably the older fans who grew up with the prime 80s stuff and who expect better. Yet, I didn't grow up with that stuff so I can dig the new stuff as it is and not look down on it as being lesser than the old stuff.

Also, there's a lot of stuff that us younger fans don't have or know of Prince from the old days. So discovering this stuff is exciting for us while it is probably just same old same old for the older fans. Pretty much it's more exciting to be a Prince fan in the here and now for the younger fans than for the older fans. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it oscar73 and whodknee.

One last note. I'm so new as a fan, I don't know what laserdisc is. Cheers.
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Reply #51 posted 12/27/09 9:44am

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BlackAdder7 said:

Having been a prince fan since 1979 or so, I know his history...the wearing thongs onstage...the appearance on American Bandstand...The opening for the Rolling Stones...
Prince gained alot of fans after the release of Purple Rain, became an international superstar. I'm glad he didn't sing on We are the World...where's Huey Lewis now?
Perhaps he's gained new fans from his recent releases, I don't know. Perhaps people have seen him on this past years stints on the Tonite Show with jay Leno..
Do the newer fans know about Prince's history, the way that Beatles fans know about the Beatles early days in Hamburg?
What do you think?


I've been seeing more and more "newer" fans like myself getting a glimpse into the greatness of Mr. Prince Rogers Nelson on shows like Jay Leno and what not. I've been a fan since 1996 and I heard The Gold Experience one time and was instantly hooked. Needless to say I was trying to get closer to a co-worker of mine who allowed me to "borrow" that album. Then I saw P's interview on Oprah and that confirmed my fandom, is that a word ... LoL
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Reply #52 posted 12/27/09 2:10pm

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Getting into Prince in 1991, I don't consider my self experienced enough to be an old fan (Not living in the USA also puts me at a distinct disadvantage too), but I do consider myself more than a newbie who discovered Prince during or after Musicology/3121 period. I am a 'middle age' fan then.
I think all fans regardless of their knowledge of and commitment to idolising Prince, are alwyas going to be curious about him and his music. And thats where this site helps, I have learned so much more about him and his music since I joined the site 5 years ago, and thats what important. All fans should be happy to learn, new fans should be nutured by the older ones, and I agree with some of the newbies, don't run them down, because they didn't line up to buy a copy of Dirty Mind on its release date.
I think some of the American fans too, could be a bit more charitable and understanding to international fans (Ie out of North America and Western Europe) fans rather than treating us like aliens who are discriminated against as we know less about Prince and in my country's case have never even been in. Prince's biggest mistake was never visiting New Zealand, whence Michael has been here 3 times at least.
So basically some of the more HARDCORE American fans could be more charitable to those who are not American.
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Reply #53 posted 12/27/09 2:42pm

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Dayclear said:

I'm so glad I was there in the beginning of Prince's career. I seriously do not understand these new fans, I mean they missed ALL the good stuff, and I do mean ALL. nod
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My main problem is being born in the wrong decade razz but that isnt gonna stop me listening to good music and he still puts on one hell of a show biggrin .
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Reply #54 posted 12/27/09 11:45pm

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I consider myself a newer fan (I came on around TGE, so, what, 15 years?). I know his whole catalog and his key performances and whatnot, but what I know less about than the old folks are the associates. Band members and such. I could basically give a fuck about the Revolution. boxed

I also have no idea what he's up to now. Lotusf*(#%@r sucked ass, and I haven't heard most of the online-only releases from the past several years. The extent of my emotional involvement with his career over the past year was to swoon over his Ellen performance of "Crimson and Clover". A COVER. shrug
"What's 'non-sequitur' mean? Do I look it up in a Fag-to-English dictionary?"
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Reply #55 posted 12/28/09 12:22am

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Isabell said:[quote]
But let's get back on track. I was one of many pulled into the Purple world thanks to Purple Rain. Actually thanks to When Doves Cry, the first time I heard it on the radio (back in the day when there wasn't too much shit on the radio and they were playing Prince very often) my reaction was:
eek "WHO's THAT!!!!!" excited

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I first saw the Video on Top of the Pops in the UK and like you WOW!!! this is different I like it I want more so got the Purple Rain tape and it progressed from there and now we are nearing 2010 I am still a fan of his music
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Reply #56 posted 12/28/09 1:01pm

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whodknee said:

New fans suck. nana


I think that's wrong of you to say, it's not our fault that we were born in the wrong decade, we couldn't decide when we wanted to live.
And also Prince's music is age-less and that's why the new generation find his music interesting and start to like him. If you ask Prince I don't think he appriciates his older fans more than his new ones, he probably likes them equally.
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Reply #57 posted 12/29/09 3:15am

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Talking to younger fans for me is one of the greatest things about coming to the org. What they dont know they dont know and they teach me a lot about perspective and yes how my old ass can be a little biased about the good ole days. I believe prince is blessed to be around this long and have so many segments of his audiance, few artist can stake this claim. In my opinion theres actually four distinct groups #1 the oldheads (like myself) who are pre purple rain, rude boy image prince- #2 the Purple Rain folks, this crew usually consist of the younger siblings of the oldheads and the casual fans who were baptised in the waters of lake minnetonka, #3 the flannel set, early 90's symbol era fans who were able to find him...despite him lol, and lastly #4 the legendary/kiddie crew lol, the media rush post 2004 attracted a lot of new listeners bored with pop radio and ultimately drawn to his musicianship-in my opinion they have the most fun because they get to play catch up and they arent hampered by expectations nor his past image. It's all valid, and it's all fam.
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Reply #58 posted 12/29/09 7:13am

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oscar73 said:

there aren't new fans.....



There are definately new fans. I just recently got really into Prince. Watched, of all things, Under the Cherry Moon, Purple Rain, and Graffiti Bridge and just loved them...well the music I should say. Since then just been wanting to learn everything I can about his music and his history. History is very important in understanding what's going on behind the music. music
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Reply #59 posted 12/29/09 6:18pm

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dreamshaman32 said:

Talking to younger fans for me is one of the greatest things about coming to the org. What they dont know they dont know and they teach me a lot about perspective and yes how my old ass can be a little biased about the good ole days. I believe prince is blessed to be around this long and have so many segments of his audiance, few artist can stake this claim. In my opinion theres actually four distinct groups #1 the oldheads (like myself) who are pre purple rain, rude boy image prince- #2 the Purple Rain folks, this crew usually consist of the younger siblings of the oldheads and the casual fans who were baptised in the waters of lake minnetonka, #3 the flannel set, early 90's symbol era fans who were able to find him...despite him lol, and lastly #4 the legendary/kiddie crew lol, the media rush post 2004 attracted a lot of new listeners bored with pop radio and ultimately drawn to his musicianship-in my opinion they have the most fun because they get to play catch up and they arent hampered by expectations nor his past image. It's all valid, and it's all fam.

Well said dreamshaman32. nod
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