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Thread started 12/14/09 10:32am

thebanishedone

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Old Friens 4 sale

Prince made 2 versions of the song
stripped down demo
and orchestrated version
which version do you like more and what lyrics did prince change?
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Reply #1 posted 12/14/09 10:41am

NouveauDance

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The lyrics he changed for the '91 era version (the released version) mainly change the more personal references to Prince's friends/colleagues. It's a shame they were changed.

Suggested targets have been Morris, Vanity, Chic Huntsberry, criticism against Prince's post-Purple Rain music and incorporating Wendy into the band, and some think the 'stuck in the snow' line is about Jam & Lewis, although I'd say that was old news by '85, and that line relates to cocaine abuse.

Compare the lyrics here:
http://www.dtt-lyrics.com...5.html#old
http://www.dtt-lyrics.com...ml#friends
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Reply #2 posted 12/14/09 10:43am

thebanishedone

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thanx noveu
its great song but older stripped down version is superior
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Reply #3 posted 12/14/09 10:47am

thebanishedone

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wow what a difference in lyrics
1985 version is much much better
do you have any info on the credits who played on the old and new versions?
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Reply #4 posted 12/14/09 12:25pm

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The Vault (book) doesn't say who is on the track, and suggest the liner notes on The Vault (album) are incorrect. The album liner notes say Sheila E. played on the record, but this is disputed.

The track was recorded in April 1985 during the initial Parade sessions, where Wendy & Lisa were often present. Obviously Clare Fisher's orchestra is on the track.

Then it was worked on later in 1991 (and possibly later).

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Reply #5 posted 12/14/09 12:31pm

emesem

The 1991 version is a travesty and a sure sign Prince had lost his mind by that point.
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Reply #6 posted 12/14/09 12:43pm

thebanishedone

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emesem you are right
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Reply #7 posted 12/14/09 2:12pm

xpertluva

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I think I'm one of the few people who like both versions. I absolutely love the full orchestra.
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Reply #8 posted 12/14/09 2:41pm

lotusflw3r

The version from The Vault contract filler album was a re-written version that was turned down by Joe Cocker (he took 5 Women instead). Prince kept the original from Warners, he obviously either felt he'd moved on from that song lyrically or he has plans to one day release it in it's original form as WB don't own it.

Hopefully it could be on Roadhouse Garden or The Dawn or CB II or ----- ----?
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Reply #9 posted 12/14/09 2:51pm

TheEnglishGent

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I love the newer version. The old one isn't exactly bad though. biggrin
RIP sad
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Reply #10 posted 12/14/09 2:55pm

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Reply #11 posted 12/14/09 3:32pm

thebanishedone

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both version are good
but the first one is more personal
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