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jstar69 said: He's ashamed of his back catalogue (well the racy parts at least - it's a shame he doesnt see those as art)!!!!!
very doubtful that he would remaster them in there original sequence without editing - doubtful he would support a remastered 'dirty mind' with sister featuring He aint gonna do that while he's a JW He could. With a disclaimer in the liner notes. Much like MJ did before the Thriller video. [Edited 12/8/09 0:41am] |
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Marrk said: jstar69 said: He's ashamed of his back catalogue (well the racy parts at least - it's a shame he doesnt see those as art)!!!!!
very doubtful that he would remaster them in there original sequence without editing - doubtful he would support a remastered 'dirty mind' with sister featuring He aint gonna do that while he's a JW He could. With a disclaimer in the liner notes. Much like MJ did before the Thriller video. [Edited 12/8/09 0:41am] What was the MJ disclaimer??? | |
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jstar69 said: udo said: Wrong. WB is company. If they can earn $$ they're in. P has more stuff on his agenda besides $$, yes that's true. Would he rerelease his old materials unaltered (except for remastering)? Would he add some vault track(s)? For what fee? Agreed - it aint WB stonewalling it!!!!! That is not what i meant. What i meant to say is as long as WB has their hands in the kitty, Prince will most likely be against any remasters. Prince did an interview with a woman at Record World. They talked about whatever, then he asked her: "Does your pubic hair go up to your navel?" At that moment, we thought maybe we shouldn't encourage him to do interviews. | |
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metallicjigolo said: jstar69 said: Agreed - it aint WB stonewalling it!!!!! That is not what i meant. What i meant to say is as long as WB has their hands in the kitty, Prince will most likely be against any remasters. Well true! Either way its a lose lose situation for his fans - A) It's unlikely he'll cooperate with WB, so nothing will eventuate through the record company, and B) when he has the control(once WB have handed rights back) the old classic material will be edited/watered down to the n'th degree so people enjoy the underground releases | |
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money. | |
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he'll be suckin on that sorry stick
he shouldve thought about doing a back catalogue deal back when he was the musical flavour of the public...most people today say "oh is he still aorund??" | |
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metallicjigolo said: jstar69 said: Agreed - it aint WB stonewalling it!!!!! That is not what i meant. What i meant to say is as long as WB has their hands in the kitty, Prince will most likely be against any remasters. You imply that mr Prince hasn't really matured to be the business man he says he is? I mean, since 1994/5 the feud has resulted in both parties separating ways on a few levels. Just the master ownership is the remaining hotspot as far as we know. Now if P really has some business sense (think of the $$$ P!) he will do the mastering in-house, add some interesting vault material here and there, add extra photo material and texts to the booklets and be done with the production. Then he could negotiate an interesting deal since WB sees he tries to attract buyers. Now, on the other hand, it appears that P refuses to work like that. So it is P's fault if doesn't earn money from remasters at this time. It'll also be his fault if he will rerecord/alter the old material when he can do so. And we miss out. Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. | |
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Why the fuck would you want any remastered Prince records.
Its like the Beatles thing a couple of months ago, most people probably cant tell the difference on their cheap stereos PLUS why would you want to listen to to it. Surely any Prince fan would rather listen to the actual version of For You etc as it was produced in 1978 not messed about with in a new studio in 2009. The records were made how they were made, leave them alone. 3121 | |
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jstar69 said: He's ashamed of his back catalogue (well the racy parts at least - it's a shame he doesnt see those as art)!!!!!
very doubtful that he would remaster them in there original sequence without editing - doubtful he would support a remastered 'dirty mind' with sister featuring He aint gonna do that while he's a JW i for one would not mind at all if he replaced sister with another song. if there are perhaps 3 or 4 songs in total from his 80s output that are totally incompatible with where he's at right now, then so be it. i would rather have remasters of all those albums and have him take the few songs that are such off the albums and replace them with others. it could be either single b-sides or completely unheard songs that came out of the album's sessions. and true love lives on lollipops and crisps | |
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honer said: Why the fuck would you want any remastered Prince records.
Its like the Beatles thing a couple of months ago, most people probably cant tell the difference on their cheap stereos PLUS why would you want to listen to to it. Surely any Prince fan would rather listen to the actual version of For You etc as it was produced in 1978 not messed about with in a new studio in 2009. The records were made how they were made, leave them alone. well that is assuming all fans have crappy stereos!!!! I for 1 don't and would love remasters, and if not remasters then re-releases with bonus material, extended versions, outtakes, etc.... Oh someone slap me, that ain't gonna happen | |
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IstenSzek said: jstar69 said: He's ashamed of his back catalogue (well the racy parts at least - it's a shame he doesnt see those as art)!!!!!
very doubtful that he would remaster them in there original sequence without editing - doubtful he would support a remastered 'dirty mind' with sister featuring He aint gonna do that while he's a JW i for one would not mind at all if he replaced sister with another song. if there are perhaps 3 or 4 songs in total from his 80s output that are totally incompatible with where he's at right now, then so be it. i would rather have remasters of all those albums and have him take the few songs that are such off the albums and replace them with others. it could be either single b-sides or completely unheard songs that came out hmmmm. I don't see the point in meddling with a historical and perfect recipe. So removing legendary key ingredients(like sister) would be a BIG mistake- a critical blunder waiting to happen perhaps! of the album's sessions. | |
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Because there should not be any.
Prince is a walking redux. | |
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Sometimes it is hard 2 find some of the albums that
are now OOP from the WB and from the NPG Records era. But thanks 2 your replies I know now why there r no re-releases at all. | |
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the tech who was visiting this site some time ago, sharing his experience with prince, said that he has pushed the limit on the original tapes to such an extend that there's not all that much to do with them when it comes to remastering. The HQ-er formerly known as krokostimpy. | |
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zobilamouche said: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the tech who was visiting this site some time ago, sharing his experience with prince, said that he has pushed the limit on the original tapes to such an extend that there's not all that much to do with them when it comes to remastering.
While it's true that Chronic Freeze said that, and Prince did in fact record in the red while he was learning how to self-produce - there is still enough advancement in technology since the CDs were first mastered to at least get them to sound as good if not better than the vinyl LPs. Those vinyls were mastered from the same 2-tracks as the CDs, but of course sound much better because vinyl mastering was well understood back then. Done correctly, remastered CDs would blow away what we now have. If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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squirrelgrease said: zobilamouche said: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the tech who was visiting this site some time ago, sharing his experience with prince, said that he has pushed the limit on the original tapes to such an extend that there's not all that much to do with them when it comes to remastering.
While it's true that Chronic Freeze said that, and Prince did in fact record in the red while he was learning how to self-produce - there is still enough advancement in technology since the CDs were first mastered to at least get them to sound as good if not better than the vinyl LPs. Those vinyls were mastered from the same 2-tracks as the CDs, but of course sound much better because vinyl mastering was well understood back then. Done correctly, remastered CDs would blow away what we now have. In that case - I'm all for it  ))The HQ-er formerly known as krokostimpy. | |
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zobilamouche said: squirrelgrease said: While it's true that Chronic Freeze said that, and Prince did in fact record in the red while he was learning how to self-produce - there is still enough advancement in technology since the CDs were first mastered to at least get them to sound as good if not better than the vinyl LPs. Those vinyls were mastered from the same 2-tracks as the CDs, but of course sound much better because vinyl mastering was well understood back then. Done correctly, remastered CDs would blow away what we now have. In that case - I'm all for it ))Yes, me too! Sounds interesting. Apart from the Warner albums. What is with the albums he released in the 90s via NPG Records? Some of them are OOP. Maybe it would not be necessary to re-master them already but maybe to re-released them...? | |
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How would u go about remastering/packaging this lot?....
THESE ARE THE WB MUST-HAVES... For You (2cd) Prince (2cd) Dirty Mind (2cd) Controversy (2cd) 1999 (2cd) Purple Rain (2/3cd) Around The World In a Day (2cd) Parade (2cd) Sign 'O’ The Times (3cd) Lovesexy (2cd) Batman (1cd) Graffiti Bridge (2cd) Diamonds And Pearls (2cd) O+> (2cd) THESE COULD BE COMBINED ONTO ONE RELEASE: Come The Gold Experience Contractual Obligations The Black Album (1cd expanded) Chaos and Disorder/The Vault (combined release) Take the previously unreleased tracks and combine??? The Hits/The B-sides Girl 6 The Very Best Of... Ultimate Prince After Warners... what should happen 2 these lot?: Emancipation Crystal Ball/The Truth/Kamasutra Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic/Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic The Rainbow Children One Nite Alone One Nite Alone (Live) Xpectation C-Note N.E.W.S The Chocolate Invasion The Slaughterhouse Musicology 3121 Planet Earth Indigo Nights Live Sessions Lotusflow3r/MPLSound/Elixer | |
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