Even though that Prince song is better than the others, those others are all magnificent artists, I love each one! And don't forget, the people who vote for who wins the grammy, I'm pretty sure they're all RIAA assholes! Unless it's the artists themselves voting, then he has a shot. Good luck Prince, I like that cut.

RenHoek said:

Neil's song can be found on his myspace page.....where he streamed his new album for a few days recently. I'm a fan of all the artists but sometimes the Grammys just hands out awards for different reasons. Can't figure out the reason this time. This rocks ...

japanrocks said:

Grew up listening to Josh Homme and his bands here in the desert, no doubt TCV rock.

"Dreamer"....hot, blues-rock.
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TwiliteKid said:

But having seen the nominees, my opinion hasn't changed.

Congratulations Prince.
Dreamer is fantastic song.

SUPRMAN said:

Mine either. "Dreamer" is the best of the category, but this is the Grammy's and travesties like this one happen all the time, which is why I don't usually watch them.



On a side note, Prince should have two nominations in that category because "Colonized Mind" is one of the best rock songs I have heard in years.

SUPRMAN said:

Well that's fair enough.

bellanoche said:

I'm not sure I'd call that a travesty. A disappointment sure, but not a travesty.

TwiliteKid said:

Well, I would definitely call it a travesty. "Bad" and "SOTT" were amazing albums by great artists. Those albums had classic songs and universal appeal. "Joshua Tree" was a good album by an average band with one or two classic songs and limited appeal. Even Whitney's album "Whitney" had more songs with greater appeal than "Joshua Tree." Another thing is that the album of the year award is a producer's award also. The production on Whitney's, MJ's and Prince's albums was better than "Joshua Tree." So when I look at talent, song quality, musical diversity and production, the fact that U2 won is a travesty.
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bellanoche said:

excellent feedback bellanoche and so TRUE

bellanoche said:

Let me get this out of the way first: I am not a U2 fan. That said, you're letting your love for Prince cloud your judgement.

Average band? Limited appeal? The Joshua Tree has sold 25 million copies and produced 3 #1 singles. The same can not be sad for Sign O The Times. 22 years later, U2 is one of the two or thre biggest bands in the world. The same cannont be said for Prince.

As for the production issues, are you serioulsy suggesting that the production on Whintey's album better than the work of BRIAN FUCKING ENO? That's ridiculous.

Again, I too am disappointed that Prince didn't take home that Grammy, but you're coming across like yet another closeminded Prince fan, incapable of looking anything involving Prince without rose-coloured glasses.

decent

Love ´Dreamer´. His best Jimi tribute, ever.

TwiliteKid said:

Well, I will also come off as one too cause I have always felt that that was one of the most outrageous moments of the Grammys. I also had listened to the Joshua Tree which was a great collections of songs but What does Brian Eno supposed to mean to me or anyone who listens to soul or rhythm and blues. Although I knew who he was but he has never made any music that made me dance. He is good in his field but has he ever ventured into different sounds or is he just a rock producer which has no impact on certain sections of the world.

jimmyrogertodd said:

First: Since when has making you dance been the only criteria for music? The Grammy's are not the Soul Train awards.

Second: Brian Eno hasn't ventured into different sounds? That may be the most laughable statement ever uttered on the .org. Over the course of his 40 year career, Eno has been a member of Roxy Music, collaborated closely with David Bowie, recorded some of the most adventorous pop music of the 70s (check out his albums "Here Come The Warm Jets" or "Another Green World"), practically invented Ambient music with his album "Music For Airports" and aside from U2, has produced a wide variety of artists, including the Talking Heads (They don't make you dance? Seriously?), John Cale, Devo, Baaba Maal (just a rock producer?), Jane Siberry, Sinead O'Connor, and most recently, Coldplay.

Educate yourself before you make ridiculous claims. Myopia is not an attractive quality.

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SUPRMAN said:

I agree with u. I do like Dylan's and Springsteen's songs, but they don't compre to "Dreamer" to me.

If Springsteen wins, I think it will be because people remember the song from the inauguration.

TwiliteKid said:

Let me state the obvious - you don't know me. I am not letting my love for Prince cloud anything. Your dismissive comments show that you have a bias that does not allow you to consider that I might actually have an opinion that has nothing to do with liking Prince's music. Don't get me confused with some other folks on here.

First off, I love music, good music - period. Prince is my favorite artist, but he is not all that I listen to, no where close to it. I was not disappointed that Prince didn't win. I was insulted by the travesty of giving U2 an award they did not deserve when there were three other artists/producers/ablums that were far more deserving. I am not a huge Whitney or MJ fan, but I would have been cool with either of those albums winning over Prince that year despite SOTT being one of my favorite albums.

You can throw sales and chart figures around all day long. They do not and have not ever connoted "greatness" to me. There are many AMAZING songs and albums that haven't sold squat. Britney Spears has sold millions and had multiple number ones as well, so what does that mean? Are any of her albums better than "Bad," "SOTT" or "Whitney?"

I have always felt that U2 is one of the most overrated bands of all time. I don't care how many albums they have sold. Their appeal is limited. They are a one-dimensional band. Their music only appeals to a certain kind of listener. Whitney, MJ and Prince, however, have further reaching appeal, whether they sell the same numbers as U2 or not. Their music crosses genres and attracts diverse listeners.

Prince, Quincy and Narada as producers have worked with many different artists and created great music in different genres. I am not overwhelmed by Brian Eno as a producer. I never have been. So, yes, for an 80's pop album, I will say that Narada Michael Walden's production work is better and was more deserving of that award than the U2 album. I am not a fan of that style of music, but that Whitney album spawned several 80's pop staples.

Finally, U2 is very much an average band when it comes to musical ability. At best, they are competent musicians. However, there is NOTHING awe inspiring or special about their musicianship - nothing! Their songs are basic rock songs. People love them, and I get that. They buy their albums and go to their stadium shows. However, that doesn't make them any better musicians. Bono isn't a great singer, The Edge isn't a great guitarist, Adam Clayton isn't a great bassist and Larry Mullen Jr. isn't a great drummer. They are all AVERAGE.

congrats 2 Prince...

Arguing whether or not the Grammy's got it right is almost as retarded as the show. Prince could just as easily have won. But knowing that it was cut down to 2 records worth of material instead of 3 kinda gives it an unfinished quality. Whereas Joshua Tree was a masterpiece from start to finish.

bellanoche said:

You're right, I don't know you. I can only make judgments based on your posts here, and like I said, you're coming off as pretty close-minded. This latest post is just more proof of that.

I was pretty suprised that all the nominees are people that have been in the business for a long time. Ain't any good fresh blood in the Rock categorie??



Sign of the time is a great album that far too few people have heard.

congrats prince! hope you win!

congrats prince! hope you win!

TwiliteKid said:

Had a feeling he'd get nominated for something! Glad he did, he probably won't perform, but hope he wins!

katara said:

Me too.....

Nice one Prince...

LondonStyle said:

ditto

TwiliteKid said:

blah blah blah...

Hands up. Who thinks SOTT is better than The Joshua Tree? And the result?
Now go to a U2 site and ask the same. Ooh look. The tree wins over there. Surprised?

It's all about opinion. Yours v. His. Mine v. Yours. Mine v His. etc...

Prince is nominated for a Grammy. Good news. Surely?

TwiliteKid said:

I always thought that music was for dancing. And what was up with the Soul Train reference?? And some of those names have never been on any playlist that I have listened to. Baaba Maal??? Never even heard that name before. But like I said in the beginning that I was one of those peeps who thought that he should have won that award. You don't so what. We like different things which is cool but Brian Eno still does mean a hill of beans to me as far as funky music cause I don't see him associated with anything funky whereas Prince can rock and funk with the best of them. Can U2 get funky??? Answer me that, music educator.