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Dance 4 Me is a Marvin Gaye rip-off? Okay i dont know if this has been mentioned before, but i was just sitting at home listening to Marvin Gayes "Dream Of A Lifetime" album from 1985.
When the song "Masochistic Beauty" came on, i was immediately thinking: Hmmm, where do i know this beat from? Now i think i know - this old MG song is/was the "blueprint" to Princes "Dance 4 Me"! Or is something wrong with my ears? Please check it out and tell me if you hear it as well...  [Edited 11/11/09 12:10pm] "ohYeeeeeah" said: I'm a massive Bowie fan. Even on Scary Monsters, I always skip Fame ... |
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In all of recorded music, two songs with the same beat? What are the odds?  | |
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CJBabyDaddy said: In all of recorded music, two songs with the same beat? What are the odds?
no no no - Have you listened to the Marvin Gaye song? It's not just the beat! It's also a almost identical melody and similiar bass line! What are the odds for that happening by accident please? 
Could you listen to the song first and comment afterwards please? [Edited 11/11/09 12:33pm] "ohYeeeeeah" said: I'm a massive Bowie fan. Even on Scary Monsters, I always skip Fame ... |
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CJBabyDaddy said: In all of recorded music, two songs with the same beat? What are the odds?
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I still have that album. "Masochistic Beauty" was the JAM, but they R not that similar. "He's a musician's musician..." |
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*sorry double post* [Edited 11/11/09 12:29pm] "ohYeeeeeah" said: I'm a massive Bowie fan. Even on Scary Monsters, I always skip Fame ... |
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personally i dont think it sounds like dance 4 me Hey Miss Murder Can i, Hey miss murder can i, make beauty stay if i take my life.....ohhhhh | |
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Soulstar77A said: Okay i dont know if this has been mentioned before, but i was just sitting at home listening to Marvin Gayes "Dream Of A Lifetime" album from 1985.
When the song "Masochistic Beauty" came on, i was immediately thinking: Hmmm, where do i know this beat from? Now i think i know - this old MG song is/was the "blueprint" to Princes "Dance 4 Me"! Or is something wrong with my ears? Please check it out and tell me if you hear it as well...
[Edited 11/11/09 12:10pm] Despite the comment above, as a musician, that baseline is almost identical. It's played slightly different but u are correct. [Edited 11/11/09 12:44pm] | |
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Graycap23 said: Soulstar77A said: Okay i dont know if this has been mentioned before, but i was just sitting at home listening to Marvin Gayes "Dream Of A Lifetime" album from 1985.
When the song "Masochistic Beauty" came on, i was immediately thinking: Hmmm, where do i know this beat from? Now i think i know - this old MG song is/was the "blueprint" to Princes "Dance 4 Me"! Or is something wrong with my ears? Please check it out and tell me if you hear it as well...
[Edited 11/11/09 12:10pm] Despite the comment above, as a musician, that baseline is almost identical. It's played slightly different but u are correct. [Edited 11/11/09 12:44pm] I'm not a musician but there's nothing wrong with my hearing and even I can hear what you both are hearing!  I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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HatrinaHaterwitz said: Graycap23 said: Despite the comment above, as a musician, that baseline is almost identical. It's played slightly different but u are correct. [Edited 11/11/09 12:44pm] I'm not a musician but there's nothing wrong with my hearing and even I can hear what you both are hearing! ditto I totally agree |
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well dammit, now I have to dl that MG song. | |
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Graycap23 said: Soulstar77A said: Okay i dont know if this has been mentioned before, but i was just sitting at home listening to Marvin Gayes "Dream Of A Lifetime" album from 1985.
When the song "Masochistic Beauty" came on, i was immediately thinking: Hmmm, where do i know this beat from? Now i think i know - this old MG song is/was the "blueprint" to Princes "Dance 4 Me"! Or is something wrong with my ears? Please check it out and tell me if you hear it as well...
[Edited 11/11/09 12:10pm] Despite the comment above, as a musician, that baseline is almost identical. It's played slightly different but u are correct. [Edited 11/11/09 12:44pm] As a fellow musician, shouldn't that be "BASSline"??? & it IS similar...i guess musical geniuses think alike . If U came 2 get your 'Purple Rain' on...U'RE IN THE WRONG HOUSE!!!!!! | |
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Well I haven't heard those songs but, so what if it is?????
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The bass line in "Masochistic Beauty" was very common back in the day. There were a bunch of jams with bass lines far more similar.
The bass line in "Dance 4 Me" is nowhere near a "rip off", as stated. Just sayin'. "He's a musician's musician..." |
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Shit that is the same music idea. But lot's of music get repeated, same idea with different details. I bet there are more songs that use this idea. This Marvin Gaye song has so many "prince" brand ideas in it including the title. I'm sure it like many Gaye's songs was a huge influence. Soaked in.
Actually the lyric pattern is like that Rockwell song in parts. My art book: http://www.lulu.com/spotl...ecomicskid
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and if it is so what it wouldn't be the first song to ever sound like another  | |
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Why they keep comparing Prince's music with these dead people? [Edited 11/11/09 15:26pm] | |
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ufoclub said: Shit that is the same music idea. But lot's of music get repeated, same idea with different details. I bet there are more songs that use this idea. This Marvin Gaye song has so many "prince" brand ideas in it including the title. I'm sure it like many Gaye's songs was a huge influence. Soaked in.
Actually the lyric pattern is like that Rockwell song in parts. That would be all well, good and perfectly understandable, if we weren't talking about the very same man that goes to such ridiculous extremes when it comes to his own music and "protecting" his copyrights. I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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I am hearing the Marvin Gaye song for the first time today This song, Masochistic Beauty was just as explicit as some of Prince's early stuff. i.e. Dirty Mind, Extralovable etc. check it out for yourselves if you havent heard it before.
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Dayclear said: Why they keep comparing Prince's music with these dead people?
[Edited 11/11/09 15:26pm]  it really is starting to get old though Enjoy him while you can. | |
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Dolphinking23 said: I am hearing the Marvin Gaye song for the first time today This song, Masochistic Beauty was just as explicit as some of Prince's early stuff. i.e. Dirty Mind, Extralovable etc. check it out for yourselves if you havent heard it before.
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Love Marvin Gaye, but he was a freak too Some of his Lyrics are very risque and probably x-rated for the 70's  | |
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I hear what your saying, but given the age of that album, I would venture a guess that Marvin Gaye's album was significantly influenced by Prince's very popular sound at the time.
So what we may have is Prince writing a song influenced by Gaye, which was in turn influenced by Prince?  "Knowledge is preferable to ignorance. Better by far to embrace the hard truth than a reassuring faith. If we crave some cosmic purpose, then let us find ourselves a worthy goal" - Carl Sagan | |
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had never even heard of this . i like it  . who knew marvin gaye had done some crazy shit like this . i don't see too much of a similarity though  For all time I am with you, you are with me. | |
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it sounds derivative. Back it up against his 'whats goin on album' 15 years earlier & u'll c what  mean."If u take this shit seriously, ur a bigger fool than I am" |
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Same Chord...
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Soulstar77A said: Okay i dont know if this has been mentioned before, but i was just sitting at home listening to Marvin Gayes "Dream Of A Lifetime" album from 1985.
When the song "Masochistic Beauty" came on, i was immediately thinking: Hmmm, where do i know this beat from? Now i think i know - this old MG song is/was the "blueprint" to Princes "Dance 4 Me"! Or is something wrong with my ears? Please check it out and tell me if you hear it as well...
[Edited 11/11/09 12:10pm] Wow, good catch! I definitely hear the similarities! They are very similar!!!! | |
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There are similarities - but the question was "is it a rip-off?"....the answer to which is a resolute "NO"!!!
How many times are people gonna bring this up? Do you have any idea how many songs use the same chord progression? Use the same rhythm? Same melody? Countless! I mean, this is the equivalent of accusing every other car manufacturer of ripping off Ford because their car has 4 wheels too!!  ...we have only scratched the surface of what the mind can do...
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