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TIME FOR A HIT RECORD ??

i think it is time that prince had another hit song....i know he is capable of writing it and i know the lack of radio interest and his age are against him having one but it CAN be done if promoted the right way and with a good solid track.....something really funky would be my best bet to getting into the charts again....he has to get a buzz going which would involve a high profile round of tv shows and interviews and maybe a one off special in both the us and the uk.....get the video and promo copies out a few weeks before the release to build interest ( as all the main acts do now) ...he stil has a sizable following that would get him back into the top ten if he does it properly..??.....the near 200,000 album sales in the us in the first week for his last release show he can still shift units .....
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not counting the re-release of 1999.....it has been 14 years since prince was last in the top ten in the uk ( gold ) and for an artist like prince....that is way too long ,
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some people say the singles chart is unimportant....well maybe but i would like to see him back in there showing all these tv pop artists what REAL musicial talent actually is....
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ps...i mean ...if whitney houston can have a top ten hit in the uk after ten years out her head on crack .....i think prince can do it....
[Edited 11/20/09 6:03am]
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Reply #1 posted 11/20/09 6:13am

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Why would mr '#1 at the bank' need a hit?
He cut out the middle men, he is comfortable with what he has.
Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #2 posted 11/20/09 6:58am

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I am not too concerned about how the general public receives his songs, I just care about how I (and other die-hards) receive them. The last 5 years have been great, especially compared to the previous five years. While he may not have had a #1 single, he has had a #1 album (in the US anyway), a #2 album, and a top-grossing tour.
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Reply #3 posted 11/20/09 7:04am

nurseV

I don't give a shit about a #1 hit, but I am getting tired of waiting for Prince to come to DFW mad Dammit all I want is one big concert lol C'mon Prince have a heart
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Reply #4 posted 11/20/09 8:38am

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The UK haven't GOT prince since 93 when he did the ActII Wembley shows, i think the name changed threw everybody off, Even prince day on Radio 1 in 94 to celebrate Come was a disaster, every album he releases goes top 5 for 1 week, then drops out completely on week 2 and that's because we buy it on day 1 and no one else is interested.


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Reply #5 posted 11/20/09 9:03am

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blackbob said:

i think it is time that prince had another hit song....i know he is capable of writing it and i know the lack of radio interest and his age are against him having one but it CAN be done if promoted the right way and with a good solid track.....something really funky would be my best bet to getting into the charts again....he has to get a buzz going which would involve a high profile round of tv shows and interviews and maybe a one off special in both the us and the uk.....get the video and promo copies out a few weeks before the release to build interest ( as all the main acts do now) ...he stil has a sizable following that would get him back into the top ten if he does it properly..??.....the near 200,000 album sales in the us in the first week for his last release show he can still shift units .....
.
not counting the re-release of 1999.....it has been 14 years since prince was last in the top ten in the uk ( gold ) and for an artist like prince....that is way too long ,
.
some people say the singles chart is unimportant....well maybe but i would like to see him back in there showing all these tv pop artists what REAL musicial talent actually is....
.
.
ps...i mean ...if whitney houston can have a top ten hit in the uk after ten years out her head on crack .....i think prince can do it....
[Edited 11/20/09 6:03am]


Prince act like a professional pop star?? Um, why would he ever want to do that? biggrin Seriously he can have several top ten hits if he wants them. The thing is and has been for like 20 years or so, he wants it on his own terms. Terms that guarantee his music won't be enjoyable to most or hold much profit potential to any label or big-box retailer interested in backing him.
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Reply #6 posted 11/20/09 9:19am

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bigd74 said:

The UK haven't GOT prince since 93 when he did the ActII Wembley shows, i think the name changed threw everybody off, Even prince day on Radio 1 in 94 to celebrate Come was a disaster, every album he releases goes top 5 for 1 week, then drops out completely on week 2 and that's because we buy it on day 1 and no one else is interested.


cool


Absolute rubbish - the UK has been and continues to be one of his most receptive and understanding audiences! His album sales performance is nothing to go by and is the same whichever country you look at.

I don't understand why people feel Prince needs to chart - its entirely meaningless. Blackbob seems to feel it would show other pop stars how it should be done - well, first I don't think most of them care anyway but, the fact remains, Prince has already done that and did so for 20 years. No need to flog a dead horse, is there?
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Reply #7 posted 11/20/09 10:20am

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blackbob said:

i think it is time that prince had another hit song....i know he is capable of writing it and i know the lack of radio interest and his age are against him having one but it CAN be done if promoted the right way and with a good solid track.....something really funky would be my best bet to getting into the charts again....he has to get a buzz going which would involve a high profile round of tv shows and interviews and maybe a one off special in both the us and the uk.....get the video and promo copies out a few weeks before the release to build interest ( as all the main acts do now) ...he stil has a sizable following that would get him back into the top ten if he does it properly..??.....the near 200,000 album sales in the us in the first week for his last release show he can still shift units .....
.
not counting the re-release of 1999.....it has been 14 years since prince was last in the top ten in the uk ( gold ) and for an artist like prince....that is way too long ,
.
some people say the singles chart is unimportant....well maybe but i would like to see him back in there showing all these tv pop artists what REAL musicial talent actually is....
.
.
ps...i mean ...if whitney houston can have a top ten hit in the uk after ten years out her head on crack .....i think prince can do it....
[Edited 11/20/09 6:03am]


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Reply #8 posted 11/20/09 10:21am

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nurseV said:

I don't give a shit about a #1 hit, but I am getting tired of waiting for Prince to come to DFW mad Dammit all I want is one big concert lol C'mon Prince have a heart



if he do I will have to make the trip again! Saw him in 2004! wozzza!
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Reply #9 posted 11/20/09 10:28am

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Still there's no harm in feeling nostalgic and hankering over the past surely that's what we all do in this forum.
Im with you on this one Bob all i want is one kick ass tune to prove to my kids that their father aint some weirdo who lives in the 80s lol
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Reply #10 posted 11/20/09 10:29am

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yes...

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would be nice .....
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Reply #11 posted 11/20/09 12:14pm

lotusflw3r

The quality of the song would b irrelevant, it's the celebrity/popularity/being in vogue that gets u a hit these days - he would have to seriously sell his soul to someone like Simon Cowell to get a hit nowadays - he'd have to go on X-Factor and do a duet with the winner or something. then go on every tv/radio show and magazine and just flog the song 24/7, which we know he can't do, he has very little interest in one song for more than a week.

I think an amazing performance at Glastonbury (and a Jools Holland Special) would help lift his profile in the UK. A proper trip down memory lane/sing-a-long type of show, all songs that people know the words to...

Let's Go Crazy
When Doves Cry
Kiss
Nothing Compares 2 U
TMBGITW
Little Red Corvette
Manic Monday/1999 hybrid?
Purple Rain

Encore:
Sign 'O' The Times
U Got The Look
I Would Die 4 U
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Reply #12 posted 11/20/09 12:27pm

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lotusflw3r said:

The quality of the song would b irrelevant, it's the celebrity/popularity/being in vogue that gets u a hit these days - he would have to seriously sell his soul to someone like Simon Cowell to get a hit nowadays - he'd have to go on X-Factor and do a duet with the winner or something. then go on every tv/radio show and magazine and just flog the song 24/7, which we know he can't do, he has very little interest in one song for more than a week.

I think an amazing performance at Glastonbury (and a Jools Holland Special) would help lift his profile in the UK. A proper trip down memory lane/sing-a-long type of show, all songs that people know the words to...

Let's Go Crazy
When Doves Cry
Kiss
Nothing Compares 2 U
TMBGITW
Little Red Corvette
Manic Monday/1999 hybrid?
Purple Rain


.....



Definately! that would be the bomb!

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Reply #13 posted 11/20/09 12:29pm

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lotusflw3r said:

The quality of the song would b irrelevant, it's the celebrity/popularity/being in vogue that gets u a hit these days - he would have to seriously sell his soul to someone like Simon Cowell to get a hit nowadays - he'd have to go on X-Factor and do a duet with the winner or something. then go on every tv/radio show and magazine and just flog the song 24/7, which we know he can't do, he has very little interest in one song for more than a week.

I think an amazing performance at Glastonbury (and a Jools Holland Special) would help lift his profile in the UK. A proper trip down memory lane/sing-a-long type of show, all songs that people know the words to...

Let's Go Crazy
When Doves Cry
Kiss
Nothing Compares 2 U
TMBGITW
Little Red Corvette
Manic Monday/1999 hybrid?
Purple Rain


.....

I almost agree, although it seems that all you need to do these days in the UK, is to turn up to the X-Factor in any capacity, show your arse a bit and you are pretty much guaranteed top ten the next week. It's pure shite for the clone music shiteness of shite that makes me spew through my eye sockets.

I have to watch it just to see how ludicrously hideously knob jangglingly shyte it really is. I HATE 95 percent of chart music, it makes me projectile cry sick!
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Reply #14 posted 11/20/09 12:35pm

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yer i think if he released valentina as a single it would do good
i know the song is really good but some people wouldn't buy it cos it hasn't got some twat who beats his girlfriend in it that try's to dance
and instead has a classy man but past the prime
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Reply #15 posted 11/20/09 12:58pm

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i totally agree, prince needs to make another hit jam, like gett off, to show the music charts he still has it, there are sooo many bad acts, and singles out there, id love a prince no 1 to happen, and blow the charts wide open, i do believe he still has it in him, poor single choices, lack of promotion and lack of chart interest from the man himself has contributed to this hit song downturn.
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Reply #16 posted 11/20/09 2:14pm

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razord said:

i totally agree, prince needs to make another hit jam, like gett off, to show the music charts he still has it, there are sooo many bad acts, and singles out there, id love a prince no 1 to happen, and blow the charts wide open, i do believe he still has it in him, poor single choices, lack of promotion and lack of chart interest from the man himself has contributed to this hit song downturn.


People like you talk "industry".
I talk quality...and the last CD oozes quality.
It is a number one hit.
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Reply #17 posted 11/20/09 2:15pm

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blackbob said:

i think it is time that prince had another hit song....i know he is capable of writing it and i know the lack of radio interest and his age are against him having one but it CAN be done if promoted the right way and with a good solid track.....something really funky would be my best bet to getting into the charts again....he has to get a buzz going which would involve a high profile round of tv shows and interviews and maybe a one off special in both the us and the uk.....get the video and promo copies out a few weeks before the release to build interest ( as all the main acts do now) ...he stil has a sizable following that would get him back into the top ten if he does it properly..??.....the near 200,000 album sales in the us in the first week for his last release show he can still shift units .....
.
not counting the re-release of 1999.....it has been 14 years since prince was last in the top ten in the uk ( gold ) and for an artist like prince....that is way too long ,
.
some people say the singles chart is unimportant....well maybe but i would like to see him back in there showing all these tv pop artists what REAL musicial talent actually is....
.
.
ps...i mean ...if whitney houston can have a top ten hit in the uk after ten years out her head on crack .....i think prince can do it....
[Edited 11/20/09 6:03am]



I believe P can do it also but why should he. (been there, done that comes to mind)
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Reply #18 posted 11/20/09 7:22pm

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I think the recent 2CD package was the closest thing to a potential hit album he put out since, say, 10 years (at least). Probably will be the closest for the next 10, too. And to avoid certain arguments: I'm not talking about "quality" here or anything, just the mainstream-ness and the number of possible radio tunes.
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Reply #19 posted 11/20/09 7:25pm

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Get T-Pain on the phone! Time to make a hit up in this bitch!

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Reply #20 posted 11/20/09 9:25pm

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It would b nice & ideal but I don't c it happening. I don't think P is all that worried about making any hits. I mean, I don't think he'd mind having a hit but I don't think he minds if he doesn't either.

I think Prince is his own genre. This wonderful underground artist that's always playing by his rules. It's difficult to really compare any one single artist to him(mj?). For the fans he has it's like finding this hidden treasure of killer music that no 1 gets but u. @least that's how I feel about it sometimes.
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Reply #21 posted 11/21/09 11:00am

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bigd74 said:

Definately! that would be the bomb!

cool

WTF!?
The same old rehash?
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Reply #22 posted 11/21/09 11:08am

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udo said:

bigd74 said:

Definately! that would be the bomb!

cool

WTF!?
The same old rehash?



If you look at my reply i had highlighted 'Jools Hollsand Special' and that is the bomb that i was referring to.

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Reply #23 posted 11/21/09 11:46am

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its the perfect time for prince to put out the best album of his career ... r + b and rap are fading people are getting back into indie and rock band sounds prince has always been that perfect mix of both worlds and if hits us with the dirty mind sound mixed with the pop perfection of sign album or diamonds album give it that raw appeal with a hint of that hip hop sound that he totally pioneered with 1999 and speakingof the appocolypse he can throw in that dance floor sensibiltiy and make it a double ... himself on drums with guests from sheila e eric leeds atlanta bliss wendy lisa dez maceo susannah oh and dont forget claire fisher put em in a room for a month and hit record ...

come u should do that prince no more will u cry
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Reply #24 posted 11/21/09 2:50pm

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Lotus Flower & MPL sounds are covered with em!
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Reply #25 posted 11/21/09 3:59pm

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there are two reasons he cannot have a hit

1) he is not aligned to a major record company (when he does align its usually a one album deal so the record companies wont promote him as much as their other artists)

2) because he is no longer able to write a quality song.

prince was always a bit weird in the 80's, the way he performed his songs and sang them, and arranged them was unusual - but the underlying songwriting was brilliant - thats why so many of his covers were also brilliant. now, he is a better performer and arranger, but the songwriting is poor and it shows in the music - you cannot hide from a lack of quality.
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Reply #26 posted 11/21/09 4:33pm

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Whats he need a chart hit for? He has a legacy and he has a solid business model, what more does he need. Some crappy pop song to please the Jonas Brothers/Miley Cyrus/Britney and bling bling rap fans out there. Hell naw. Lets keep things the way they are.
So what are u going 2 do? R u just gonna sit there and watch? I'm not gonna stop until the war is over. Its gonna take a long time
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Reply #27 posted 11/21/09 6:36pm

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Perhaps I'm setting the bar too low but I actually consider Musicology, 3121, Planet Earth, and lotusflow3r hit records.

I mean, not on the scale of some of the rubbish that's getting lots of heavy rotation on the radios, but his albums are topping the charts, which is difficult for a seasoned vet in the music industry to do.

I think Prince is adopting the business model that radiohead, U2, and a lot of bands have adopted where the record promotes the tour instead of vice versa, but I could be wrong.

It's been several months since he's released lotusflow3r so I wouldn't doubt that he's in the studio finishing up a followup already lol
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Reply #28 posted 11/21/09 9:30pm

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vinx98 said:

there are two reasons he cannot have a hit

1) he is not aligned to a major record company (when he does align its usually a one album deal so the record companies wont promote him as much as their other artists)

2) because he is no longer able to write a quality song.

prince was always a bit weird in the 80's, the way he performed his songs and sang them, and arranged them was unusual - but the underlying songwriting was brilliant - thats why so many of his covers were also brilliant. now, he is a better performer and arranger, but the songwriting is poor and it shows in the music - you cannot hide from a lack of quality.



I am going to agree with you, his songwriting of late has been very unoriginal and flat. All of his songs are paeans to female beauty minus the dirty bits, environmental concerns (Yawn), look at how funky I am songs, and religious crap. I mean take the song "dance for me", apart from funky beats and a solid rhythm, the songs lyrics are jokeable "You are standing there in your Christian Dior, dark shadows in the pale moonlight" sounds like Lyrics101 to me. Theres no quirkiness, no If I was ur Girlfriends or even Love 2 the 9s type lyrics. I think the last song he wrote that had any real meaning and quirkiness was Animal Kingdom back in 1997-98.

Thats how u can tell about his song writing, people will either love the song or be unable to stand it, here most of his stuff fits into the mildly liking to indifferent category. Ok he still has a sense of melody in his music and hes cut back considerably in the overproduction, but at the sake of his musicality?
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Reply #29 posted 11/22/09 1:32am

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Imago said:

Perhaps I'm setting the bar too low but I actually consider Musicology, 3121, Planet Earth, and lotusflow3r hit records.

I mean, not on the scale of some of the rubbish that's getting lots of heavy rotation on the radios, but his albums are topping the charts, which is difficult for a seasoned vet in the music industry to do.

I think Prince is adopting the business model that radiohead, U2, and a lot of bands have adopted where the record promotes the tour instead of vice versa, but I could be wrong.

It's been several months since he's released lotusflow3r so I wouldn't doubt that he's in the studio finishing up a followup already lol



as someone previously put it, they topped the charts for one week, and are then forgotton.

In the 80's, his albums may or may not of topped the charts, but they would hang around in the charts and were certainly not forgotton - they were talked about and people knew about them. If you asked people about lotusflower today, they would give you a blank look. I am not doubting that prince has a lot of fans accumulated over a very long career, yes we all buy his record in the first week it is released so it goes to number one - but I think what the original poster wanted was for Prince to still be "relevant" to the music world - yes his legacy is relevant, but not his new stuff. Its kind of like Bowie and Paul Macartney, the public and music reviewers shrug when they release a new record, they know the guy is/was a genius, and therefore provide him with the utmost respect - but they also are not too interested either - its like your great grandfather walking around the house - deaf in one ear, walking slowly - yeah he may saved someone's life in WW2, and you look at his younger photos with respect and love - but you also would rather spend your time with your wife and kids.
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