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Reply #90 posted 12/08/09 12:40am

vizionheiry

Yes but present day Jehovah Witness's consider Russell's theosophy practices of the occult. While present day protest Christians consider JWs false doctrine because of their disavowal of the trinity. Also they rely on the interpretation of the WatchTower writings to bear equal weight with the Bible. Not to mention all of the false prophecies. Also, even though the 144,000 are explicity written about as the people of Israel, they interpret that to mean only 144k human beings will be admitted into Heaven.

But you do raise a valid point. Since Prince is a mason, he more than likely follows Russell's theosophy. The masonic imagery is rife in Prince's pictures and music. But Prince is also smart enough to know that Russell's theosophy is based in the occult. Which means that Prince would be then conscious of rejecting Jesus.
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Reply #91 posted 12/08/09 2:29am

DWZ

eye will c u on the other side
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Reply #92 posted 12/08/09 2:54am

DWZ

eye will c u on the other side
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Reply #93 posted 12/08/09 8:05am

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[Edited 12/21/09 8:51am]
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #94 posted 12/08/09 8:56am

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..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #95 posted 12/08/09 3:45pm

Billmenever

Umm what's the question? sneeze
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Reply #96 posted 12/11/09 11:26am

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DWZ said:

vizionheiry said:

Yes but present day Jehovah Witness's consider Russell's theosophy practices of the occult. While present day protest Christians consider JWs false doctrine because of their disavowal of the trinity. Also they rely on the interpretation of the WatchTower writings to bear equal weight with the Bible. Not to mention all of the false prophecies. Also, even though the 144,000 are explicity written about as the people of Israel, they interpret that to mean only 144k human beings will be admitted into Heaven.

But you do raise a valid point. Since Prince is a mason, he more than likely follows Russell's theosophy. The masonic imagery is rife in Prince's pictures and music. But Prince is also smart enough to know that Russell's theosophy is based in the occult. Which means that Prince would be then conscious of rejecting Jesus.


Also I wonder if the Theosophy was never changed would present day witnesses still think it was of the occult, if the preception of a mason was never downloaded as "being" occult based on judgment of a projection of what a mason is, ha ha I just had an epiphany, lol ty for this But Prince is also smart enough to know that Russell's theosophy is based in the occult.Which means that Prince would be then conscious of rejecting Jesus I get it obe 1.. such a Jedi he is wink



I am totally unaware of Russells interest in the occult etc and wonder if Prince looked that deep into it when he became baptized. I never looked deaply into the life of the founder. I wonder if there is a biography of him that is available?
There came a time when the risk of remaining tight in the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. Anais Nin.
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Reply #97 posted 12/11/09 12:15pm

DWZ

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Reply #98 posted 12/11/09 12:54pm

Deadflow3r

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DWZ said:

Deadflow3r said:




I am totally unaware of Russells interest in the occult etc and wonder if Prince looked that deep into it when he became baptized. I never looked deaply into the life of the founder. I wonder if there is a biography of him that is available?


http://www.bookrags.com/w...ze_Russell Best I could find so far lovie... wink



Thanks for the info. We should probably be careful about talking about the JW's without talking about Prince; otherwise we will be chasing this thread in P & R lol Do most people really look into the history of their religion?? I think Prince was very gung-ho and after a while lost his passion for being "born again". You can very much see it in his lyrics in his past release and even in the ones before that. I mean you would think there would be a song as passionate about Christ as THE TEARS IN YOUR EYES or THE LADDER on his latest release given that he has been a Witness for about 10 years.




I also thought of something over the past 4 days. When Prince was speaking with Tavis Smiley, he did not say he was a Jehovah's Witness. Instead he said that he was a "witness for Jehovah". Sounds the same but is it? I mean elixir and Elixer seem the same but they obviously have different meanings. Prince is very good at playing with words. Any body can witness, it simply means that you spread the words of Christ. A Jehovah's Witness is however a member of a very specific group. I am not so sure that he is anymore. If he was disfellowshipped it would certainly not be announced publicly by the Witnesses themselves. The only people who would know for sure are the people who were in either his L.A. or Minneapolis congregation.
There came a time when the risk of remaining tight in the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. Anais Nin.
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Reply #99 posted 12/11/09 1:50pm

DWZ

eye will c u on the other side
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Reply #100 posted 12/12/09 9:13am

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..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #101 posted 12/12/09 9:29am

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..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #102 posted 12/12/09 9:56am

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..Jesus taught of the depth potential of man and of his spiritualunity with God..perhaps He was ahead of His time...
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..only recently have scientist,philosphers,psychologists,and educators begun to catch the idea of an integrated whole as the guide 4 studying man or L-I-F-E or The Universe..
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..this is the concept of spiritual unity that is found between the lines in all Jesus' teachings..
...strangely..religious groups have been the slowest of all to catch this vision..
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..this especially remarkable because the very word "religion"..from its Greek root..has a strong connotation of UNITY..
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...it is difficult 2 talk..or write...about Jesus Christ or the Christian teachings...w/o coming in2 DIRECT-CONFLICT with deeply rooted attitudes...
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..this is because..
...the whole flow of Western civilization has been so completely involved in the organization of the Christian "church" and the outreach of Christian ideals..
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..let us admit at the outset..in our study of the Gospel of Jesus..we will not be articulating a "social Gospel"..nor will we try 2 substantiate any political views by rationalization of His teachings..ours will be complete you-centered approach-since we believe this 2 be Jesus' approach...
...MZSEXYBABY'why won't prince release THE DIVINE?..any1??' crysball
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #103 posted 12/12/09 10:33am

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..if u can F-I-N-D consciousness of ur spiritual UNITY with the Infinite and with ur FELLOW MAN...and if u can become established in the conviction of the Divinity of Man..u will become an intuitively GUIDED and EFFECTIVE INSTRUMENT 4 SOCIAL and political action within the framework of ur INTERESTS,ABILITIES and RESPONSIBILITIES...
.
..the Gospel will become a message 4 the ages...a universal MESSAGE OF TRUTH..4 all people everywhere...
.
..man has been going up and down the earth,climbing,digging,diving,exploring,searching 4 something that is already IN HIMSELF..
.
..2,000yrs ago..a man named Jesus found it and shared its secret...but in the movement that sprang up in His name...the Divinity in man has been the best kept secret of the ages....
.
.... hmmm hmmm hmmm
..THE DIVINE..it is claimed 2 best prince's best solo performance!!!!...which means he REALLY MEANT THAT SONG!!!!..i can just hear the emotion of that song!!...it seeps through just in it's name THE DIVINE flower
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..why won't prince release it??..i would say because of it's content...it could be anything and that alone is BEAUTIFUL....the blind-leading-the-blind..will NEVER WORK...
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..i don't blame prince 4 not release'in it..it could BE 4 every1's ears...but people in general burn-their-bridges or they SABOTAGE their own..when everything is ok...some people will never accept the Good News...
.
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..ARISE AND LIVE!..
...live it more fully than ever b-4..
..appreciate the great gift of L-I-F-E in ALL forms..
...F-I-N-D..H-O-P-E..in the promise of Spring..
..S-E-E-K peace in the beauty of a rainbow..
...bask in the glory of a sunset..
..let the laughter of children fill u with joy..
...be compassionate 2 the hurting hearts u meet along the way..
..and discover that which is good in all people and all things
...live and help others 2 live!..
..be an inspiration 2 all u meet..
...because i have lived and died..
..can u L-O-V-E me this much 2 LIVE fully until we walk 2gether again?..
.
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...A sense sublime far more deeply interfused...whose dwelling is the LIGHT of setting suns..
..and the round ocean and the living Air...
...and the blue sky..and in the mind of man..
..a motion and spirit..that impels all thinking things..all objects of all thought..
...and rolls through all things..
.
...from outward things..whate'er u may believe..
..there is an intermost center in us all..
...where TRUTH abides in fulness..and around...
..wall upon wall..the gross flesh hems it in..
...this perfect,clear perception...WHICH IS TRUTH..a baffling and perverting carnal mesh..
..binds it..
...and makes all error..and 2 know..rather consists in opening out a way..
..whence the imprisoned splendor may escape..than in effecting entry 4 a LIGHT..supposed 2 be without...
...MZSEXYBABY'this will be my 4,731st post!!..no i am no newbie and yes i have my share of posts...in honor of Prince's 51st year alive on this earth..he is my cornerstone of my purpose HERE...how beautiful do the words have 2 be b-4 they conquer every heart?..how will u know if i may then in the right key..if u make me stop b-4 i start?...if i came back as a..' crysball
[Edited 12/12/09 10:34am]
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #104 posted 12/12/09 4:13pm

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mzkqueen03 said:

..if u can F-I-N-D consciousness of ur spiritual UNITY with the Infinite and with ur FELLOW MAN...and if u can become established in the conviction of the Divinity of Man..u will become an intuitively GUIDED and EFFECTIVE INSTRUMENT 4 SOCIAL and political action within the framework of ur INTERESTS,ABILITIES and RESPONSIBILITIES...
.
..the Gospel will become a message 4 the ages...a universal MESSAGE OF TRUTH..4 all people everywhere...
.
..man has been going up and down the earth,climbing,digging,diving,exploring,searching 4 something that is already IN HIMSELF..
.
..2,000yrs ago..a man named Jesus found it and shared its secret...but in the movement that sprang up in His name...the Divinity in man has been the best kept secret of the ages....
.
.... hmmm hmmm hmmm
..THE DIVINE..it is claimed 2 best prince's best solo performance!!!!...which means he REALLY MEANT THAT SONG!!!!..i can just hear the emotion of that song!!...it seeps through just in it's name THE DIVINE flower
.
..why won't prince release it??..i would say because of it's content...it could be anything and that alone is BEAUTIFUL....the blind-leading-the-blind..will NEVER WORK...
.
..i don't blame prince 4 not release'in it..it could BE 4 every1's ears...but people in general burn-their-bridges or they SABOTAGE their own..when everything is ok...some people will never accept the Good News...
.
.
..ARISE AND LIVE!..
...live it more fully than ever b-4..
..appreciate the great gift of L-I-F-E in ALL forms..
...F-I-N-D..H-O-P-E..in the promise of Spring..
..S-E-E-K peace in the beauty of a rainbow..
...bask in the glory of a sunset..
..let the laughter of children fill u with joy..
...be compassionate 2 the hurting hearts u meet along the way..
..and discover that which is good in all people and all things
...live and help others 2 live!..
..be an inspiration 2 all u meet..
...because i have lived and died..
..can u L-O-V-E me this much 2 LIVE fully until we walk 2gether again?..
.
.
...A sense sublime far more deeply interfused...whose dwelling is the LIGHT of setting suns..
..and the round ocean and the living Air...
...and the blue sky..and in the mind of man..
..a motion and spirit..that impels all thinking things..all objects of all thought..
...and rolls through all things..
.
...from outward things..whate'er u may believe..
..there is an intermost center in us all..
...where TRUTH abides in fulness..and around...
..wall upon wall..the gross flesh hems it in..
...this perfect,clear perception...WHICH IS TRUTH..a baffling and perverting carnal mesh..
..binds it..
...and makes all error..and 2 know..rather consists in opening out a way..
..whence the imprisoned splendor may escape..than in effecting entry 4 a LIGHT..supposed 2 be without...
...MZSEXYBABY'this will be my 4,731st post!!..no i am no newbie and yes i have my share of posts...in honor of Prince's 51st year alive on this earth..he is my cornerstone of my purpose HERE...how beautiful do the words have 2 be b-4 they conquer every heart?..how will u know if i may then in the right key..if u make me stop b-4 i start?...if i came back as a..' crysball
[Edited 12/12/09 10:34am]
Jehovah please bless mzkqueen she really loves you...when i read her post i learn so much....
sexy hug
♥ Feeling Purple Rain...Don't hold on 2 the pain, hold on 2 the memories ♥
My heart will go on...Celine Dion
I will always love you...Whitney Houston
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Reply #105 posted 12/12/09 4:27pm

ladychel61

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Deadflow3r said:

DWZ said:



http://www.bookrags.com/w...ze_Russell Best I could find so far lovie... wink



Thanks for the info. We should probably be careful about talking about the JW's without talking about Prince; otherwise we will be chasing this thread in P & R lol Do most people really look into the history of their religion?? I think Prince was very gung-ho and after a while lost his passion for being "born again". You can very much see it in his lyrics in his past release and even in the ones before that. I mean you would think there would be a song as passionate about Christ as THE TEARS IN YOUR EYES or THE LADDER on his latest release given that he has been a Witness for about 10 years.




I also thought of something over the past 4 days. When Prince was speaking with Tavis Smiley, he did not say he was a Jehovah's Witness. Instead he said that he was a "witness for Jehovah". Sounds the same but is it? I mean elixir and Elixer seem the same but they obviously have different meanings. Prince is very good at playing with words. Any body can witness, it simply means that you spread the words of Christ. A Jehovah's Witness is however a member of a very specific group. I am not so sure that he is anymore. If he was disfellowshipped it would certainly not be announced publicly by the Witnesses themselves. The only people who would know for sure are the people who were in either his L.A. or Minneapolis congregation.

Prince is a Jehovah Witness....I wonder why when you say you are a Jehovah's Witness people love 2 see if you are going 2 do something wrong....If he was married 2 Bria and were 2 sing....I like it when she dance 4 me ....would you say that he is singing something wrong....leave Prince alone hug sexy
♥ Feeling Purple Rain...Don't hold on 2 the pain, hold on 2 the memories ♥
My heart will go on...Celine Dion
I will always love you...Whitney Houston
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Reply #106 posted 12/12/09 4:32pm

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shytown said:[quote]

ladychel61 said:

mzkqueen03 said:

...i understand what u are saying Deadflow3r....
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...i want 2 explain something 2 all that will listen...
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..Prince like all of us...we have a right 2 be happy...but happiness has 2 be fought for and it is not an easy task...
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...yes Prince wrote the lyrics 2 the Lotusflow3r COLLECTION...but PLEASE understand why he did it....Prince did it because that is his way of courting his future-wife!!!!!...not someone that he just wants 2 bang-thank-ya-ma'am...
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...prince is very sensual..he is very specific..and he is DETERMINED!!!
...
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...the paisley-park oct'09 party...was a specific invitation 2 all women..though every1 who had $40 could attend....
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...every1 is at a wait-n-see moment right now...buy while we wait please we shouldn't be judge'in prince on how religious he is....BECAUSE he is!!!..
..what if prince has FOUND the woman that he would want 2 spend L-I-F-E with...that is a huge responsibility!!!...2-prince..2-his-future-wife...2-JEHOVAH!!!!!..
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..L-I-F-E IS NOT A JOKE!!!...

..MZSEXYBABY'i'm gonna say this once..then i'ma leave this town' :wildsign
hug batting eyes


Your intellect is dizzying. Valid points Mzsexybaby. Thats a quote from "Here" im gonna say this once then i'ma leave this town." whistle

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My heart will go on...Celine Dion
I will always love you...Whitney Houston
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Reply #107 posted 12/12/09 5:55pm

Jekylline

So....my belief is:
If everybody does just 1 thing that his/hers religion teaches...a lot of problems in this world would be easily solved smile

Like: "treat everyone else like you want to be treated"!!! ( lesson 1 wink ) (isn't that a lesson in all religions?)!!!!
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Reply #108 posted 12/14/09 9:28am

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^^^^^!!!!!^^^^^
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..it is about religion alive..and whenever religion comes 2 L-I-F-E it displays a startling quality..it takes over..
...as..else..while not silenced..becomes subdued and thrown w/o contest in2 a supporting role..
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..Religion alive CONFRONTS the individual with the most momentous option this world can present...it calls the S-O-U-L 2 the highest adventure it can undertake..a proposed journey across the jungles,peaks,and deserts of the human spirit..
...the call is 2 confront reality...2 master the self...those who DARE 2 hear and follow this secret-call soon learn the dangers and difficulties of its lonely journey..
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..a sharpened edge of a razor,hard to traverse!..
...a difficult path is this-the poet's declare!..
..MZSEXYBABY'who R..the greatest benefactors of the loving generation of mankind?' eye
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..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #109 posted 12/14/09 9:34am

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...the answer should not surprise...authentic religion is the dearest opening through which the inexhaustible energies of the cosmos can pour in2 human existence..
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..what then can rival its power 2 touch and inspire the deepest creative centers of man's being...moving outward from there in2 myth and rite it provides the symbols that carry history 4ward...until at length its backwash and L-I-F-E await a NEW redemption.....RELIGION is the only R-E-A-L motive force in the world..
...MZSEXYBABY'what should be our approach 2 the religions of man from this point on?' crysball
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #110 posted 12/14/09 9:41am

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ladychel61 said:

Deadflow3r said:




Thanks for the info. We should probably be careful about talking about the JW's without talking about Prince; otherwise we will be chasing this thread in P & R lol Do most people really look into the history of their religion?? I think Prince was very gung-ho and after a while lost his passion for being "born again". You can very much see it in his lyrics in his past release and even in the ones before that. I mean you would think there would be a song as passionate about Christ as THE TEARS IN YOUR EYES or THE LADDER on his latest release given that he has been a Witness for about 10 years.




I also thought of something over the past 4 days. When Prince was speaking with Tavis Smiley, he did not say he was a Jehovah's Witness. Instead he said that he was a "witness for Jehovah". Sounds the same but is it? I mean elixir and Elixer seem the same but they obviously have different meanings. Prince is very good at playing with words. Any body can witness, it simply means that you spread the words of Christ. A Jehovah's Witness is however a member of a very specific group. I am not so sure that he is anymore. If he was disfellowshipped it would certainly not be announced publicly by the Witnesses themselves. The only people who would know for sure are the people who were in either his L.A. or Minneapolis congregation.

Prince is a Jehovah Witness....I wonder why when you say you are a Jehovah's Witness people love 2 see if you are going 2 do something wrong....If he was married 2 Bria and were 2 sing....I like it when she dance 4 me ....would you say that he is singing something wrong....leave Prince alone hug sexy



yes I would because that's not the subject most TRUE witnesses that I know would have a song about. I am not bugging Prince, just saying that I don't think he is into it anymore.


Ladychil61 if you are REALLY a Jehovah's Witness then you must know some people who you admire who are long time witnesses. Ask them what they think of the lyrics on his last CD. Surely you respect their opinion??? Ask them if they think someone who sings such songs is a witness in good standing?


You really love what mzkqueen03 writes. Why don't you bring a copy of this thread to them and see what they think?? It seems to me that Witnesses consult with eachother about such matters and certainly it couldn't hurt YOU!!!!
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Reply #111 posted 12/14/09 9:42am

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..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #112 posted 12/14/09 9:45am

Deadflow3r

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ladychel61 said:

Deadflow3r said:




Thanks for the info. We should probably be careful about talking about the JW's without talking about Prince; otherwise we will be chasing this thread in P & R lol Do most people really look into the history of their religion?? I think Prince was very gung-ho and after a while lost his passion for being "born again". You can very much see it in his lyrics in his past release and even in the ones before that. I mean you would think there would be a song as passionate about Christ as THE TEARS IN YOUR EYES or THE LADDER on his latest release given that he has been a Witness for about 10 years.




I also thought of something over the past 4 days. When Prince was speaking with Tavis Smiley, he did not say he was a Jehovah's Witness. Instead he said that he was a "witness for Jehovah". Sounds the same but is it? I mean elixir and Elixer seem the same but they obviously have different meanings. Prince is very good at playing with words. Any body can witness, it simply means that you spread the words of Christ. A Jehovah's Witness is however a member of a very specific group. I am not so sure that he is anymore. If he was disfellowshipped it would certainly not be announced publicly by the Witnesses themselves. The only people who would know for sure are the people who were in either his L.A. or Minneapolis congregation.

Prince is a Jehovah Witness....I wonder why when you say you are a Jehovah's Witness people love 2 see if you are going 2 do something wrong....If he was married 2 Bria and were 2 sing....I like it when she dance 4 me ....would you say that he is singing something wrong....leave Prince alone hug sexy



It's also the use of "Halleluyah" in the beginning. Not exactly respectful to Jehovah.
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Reply #113 posted 12/14/09 9:56am

theRight1

Jekylline said:[quote]So....my belief is:
If everybody does just 1 thing that his/hers religion teaches...a lot of problems in this world would be easily solved smile

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Reply #114 posted 12/14/09 11:32am

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theRight1 said:

Jekylline said:

So....my belief is:
If everybody does just 1 thing that his/hers religion teaches...a lot of problems in this world would be easily solved smile

Like: "treat everyone else like you want to be treated"!!! ( lesson 1 wink ) (isn't that a lesson in all religions?)!!!!

I have family members who were recently suspended (for 4 weeks) from their church for being two months behind in their tithing. Mind you they gave extra money in tithing six months ago. I agree with you. People can keep their RE-LIGION. I prefer to Love others and tell the truth. I think religion is the easy way out for those who can't seem to treat others how they want to be treated.



What kind of church did they attend?
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Reply #115 posted 12/14/09 11:41am

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Deadflow3r said:

theRight1 said:


I have family members who were recently suspended (for 4 weeks) from their church for being two months behind in their tithing. Mind you they gave extra money in tithing six months ago. I agree with you. People can keep their RE-LIGION. I prefer to Love others and tell the truth. I think religion is the easy way out for those who can't seem to treat others how they want to be treated.



What kind of church did they attend?

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Reply #116 posted 12/14/09 11:43am

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theRight1 said:

Jekylline said:

So....my belief is:
If everybody does just 1 thing that his/hers religion teaches...a lot of problems in this world would be easily solved smile

Like: "treat everyone else like you want to be treated"!!! ( lesson 1 wink ) (isn't that a lesson in all religions?)!!!!

I have family members who were recently suspended (for 4 weeks) from their church for being two months behind in their tithing. Mind you they gave extra money in tithing six months ago. I agree with you. People can keep their RE-LIGION. I prefer to Love others and tell the truth. I think religion is the easy way out for those who can't seem to treat others how they want to be treated.

I don't agree with your last sentence. That's makin a general statement and u don't know wats in people's hearts.
I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh
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Reply #117 posted 12/14/09 11:51am

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Reply #118 posted 12/14/09 12:14pm

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theRight1 said:

Deadflow3r said:




What kind of church did they attend?

It's not Jews for Jesus but it's a very similar organization who of course claims to be "the truth" and calls everyone else sinners. You have to watch out for churches like this.
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I dont understand this thinking. Should religions claim they dont teach truth? Dont you know truth when you hear it? That statement does not hold up when truth is whatever is true to the individual. Should we watch out for Jesus? He said he was "the truth", the way and the life. The truth is subjective. All are sinners. Any religion stating otherwise is not telling truth. Truth is a mirror and if it hurts to hear or is difficult to follow then you are on the right path. Truth cannot fit into our personal agenda or desires and it means action on our part.

We all need teachers, choose wisely and stand firm.

Its all or nothing.
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Reply #119 posted 12/14/09 12:42pm

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Deadflow3r said:

DWZ said:



http://www.bookrags.com/w...ze_Russell Best I could find so far lovie... wink



Thanks for the info. We should probably be careful about talking about the JW's without talking about Prince; otherwise we will be chasing this thread in P & R lol Do most people really look into the history of their religion?? I think Prince was very gung-ho and after a while lost his passion for being "born again". You can very much see it in his lyrics in his past release and even in the ones before that. I mean you would think there would be a song as passionate about Christ as THE TEARS IN YOUR EYES or THE LADDER on his latest release given that he has been a Witness for about 10 years.





I also thought of something over the past 4 days. When Prince was speaking with Tavis Smiley, he did not say he was a Jehovah's Witness. Instead he said that he was a "witness for Jehovah". Sounds the same but is it? I mean elixir and Elixer seem the same but they obviously have different meanings. Prince is very good at playing with words. Any body can witness, it simply means that you spread the words of Christ. A Jehovah's Witness is however a member of a very specific group. I am not so sure that he is anymore. If he was disfellowshipped it would certainly not be announced publicly by the Witnesses themselves. The only people who would know for sure are the people who were in either his L.A. or Minneapolis congregation.



He HAS BEEN BAPTIZED 4 7 YRS 2 B EXACT.

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