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HOW RELIGIOUS IS PRINCE? What say you?
Is he.... Extremely religious? Moderately religious? Straight up Heathen walking around with a bible just for show? Let's discuss... | |
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Not religious at all!  | |
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Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture! REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince "I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben |
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let's say...for the purposes of this thread: extremely religious = goes to church a lot, reads and follows his bible, prays everyday and thanks God for everything, treats his body like a sacred temple , obeys the beatitudes and commandments, does not engage in fornication or self-worship and is readying for judgement day. moderately religious = goes to church now and then, reads his bible every once in a full a moon, prays when he is afraid or needs/wants something out of his reach and control. straight up heathen walking around with a bible just for show = he is enaging in some sinful debauchery as we speak!  | |
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re⋅li⋅gious
–adjective 1. of, pertaining to, or concerned with religion: a religious holiday. 2. imbued with or exhibiting religion; pious; devout; godly: a religious man. 3. scrupulously faithful; conscientious: religious care. 4. pertaining to or connected with a monastic or religious order. 5. appropriate to religion or to sacred rites or observances. –noun 6. a member of a religious order, congregation, etc.; a monk, friar, or nun. 7. the religious, devout or religious persons: Each year, thousands of the religious make pilgrimages to the shrine. I'd say he probably goes to Kingdom Hall a lot [Edited 11/25/09 15:12pm] Peace ... & Stay Funky ...
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DesireeNevermind said: ^
let's say...for the purposes of this thread: extremely religious = goes to church a lot, reads and follows his bible, prays everyday and thanks God for everything, treats his body like a sacred temple , obeys the beatitudes and commandments, does not engage in fornication or self-worship and is readying for judgement day. moderately religious = goes to church now and then, reads his bible every once in a full a moon, prays when he is afraid or needs/wants something out of his reach and control. straight up heathen walking around with a bible just for show = he is enaging in some sinful debauchery as we speak! Nobody knows except Prince himself. Unless you know someone that hangs with him??
Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture! REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince "I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben |
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maybe I do, maybe I don't. 
maybe I/he/she/we want to know how P is perceived when it comes to being religious. maybe this is just a fun thread to discuss P's image, or lack of, as a rocker with a faith. he's talked about his religion, incorporated spirituality into his music and has taken photos holding a bible so it's not like this is a touchy subject. | |
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I think if u read Ur list of options in reverse order thats pretty much his life story.
Started out as like the third option became like the second after Lovesexy and now he is more like the first. IMO. | |
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comegetwild said: I think if u read Ur list of options in reverse order thats pretty much his life story.
Started out as like the third option became like the second after Lovesexy and now he is more like the first. IMO. could be  | |
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. [Edited 12/21/09 13:15pm] | |
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Like that's anybody's business. [Edited 11/25/09 18:45pm] | |
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he's not true to the jw faith i don't think
i wish he'd just give it up and be like he was before ''now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, a fanatical criminal'' | |
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Not religious enough. I want more Jehovah, divisive lecturing, intolerance, separatist propaganda and theocratic order in my Prince music.  If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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How the hell are we supposed to know? | |
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In every interview he gives, he talks about God and the important part it plays in his life. In Paris he even requested the reporters to ask him questions about God.
Every concert he plays, he ends with the words "All praise to Jehovah God". Every album he makes nowadays has the words "Jehovah" somewhere on the inner sleeve. We know his girlfriend converted to the JW beliefs. I guess you could say he's "extremely" religious, especially for European norms. What I find very intruiging, is that this religious beliefs are not reflected in this work with the same intensity. Absolutely, Prince is a very spiritual songwriter and this spirituality is a dominant factor in his work. But if you look at the imagery and symbolism used in his work, it's a strange mixture of esoteric beliefs. Take "Lotusflow3r" : the lotusflower is a very important symbol in Buddhism, but is not a part of christian imagery. The Symbol album was filled with references to ancient Egypt and hermetic beliefs. With the exception of The Rainbow children (that still features some Egyptian references), none of his albums use straight forward biblical references or christian symbolism. Did Prince choose this approach deliberately not to estrange his fans ? I'm not sure, many of them are also devote christians and would not mind - others are atheist or agnosts and simply ignore the spiritual dimension of his music. What do you think ? [Edited 11/26/09 6:47am] | |
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Too religious for my liking, he should save his preaching and cultic rhetoric for those who actually care. The Rainbow Children is an example of his religious arrogance. So what are u going 2 do? R u just gonna sit there and watch? I'm not gonna stop until the war is over. Its gonna take a long time | |
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"And I'm here to tell ya, there's Something Else!"
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theRight1 said: I do think Prince is a deeply 'spiritual' person. Des, you told me he wasn't deep into the whole JW religion. I think in his mind he is.
I still believe he's faithful to his religious beliefs. Even after the photo his dear friend took of him holding the Al Green cd by the elevator. Last year Prince said he was single, sexy, and celibate. This year it looks like he is doing some serious romantic courting with his woman. I don't think he's a heathen. I think he's in love and having a ball with his Bria. Isn't she even a JW now?I agree. He is spiritual. And I've heard Bria is one of Jehovah's Witnesses now too. I love music | |
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comegetwild said: I think if u read Ur list of options in reverse order thats pretty much his life story.
Started out as like the third option became like the second after Lovesexy and now he is more like the first. IMO. I disagree, there are too many songs with religious references before Lovesexy. As others have said we cannot know the answer to the question but there is no reason to believe that Prince has ever been disingenuous about his faith. There is a lot of room between Extreme and Moderate, so I would say based only on his music and his public comments that somewhere between the two. |
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he is still confused but now that he is older he is fed up with being confused and really wants to make up his mind thus all the preachy stuff is a projection of his desire to know himself but the very nature of spirituality is acceptance of the chaos as something uncomprehendable and the acceptance of ones self as imperfect therefore the preaching of my way is the right way is in itself flawed and contrary to true faith ... thus we get very conservative and safe musical statements meant to proclaim conformity to a man made notion of good and right yet as someone who has tapped into the god source and created works so brilliant and beautiful that to deny gods influence would be blasphemy, he faces the ultimate question, does god want him to serve a man made notion (false god) as presented in the bible or does god want him to be himself as he was created to be to the fullest and most brilliant extreme without self imposed censorship. prince is returning to the upswing of being who god made him instead of the slave that those who use the bible to oppress want him to be as is evidence in his recent and rare h e double hockey sticks outburst on guitar | |
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you already know how I feel about this. For whatever reason, he was very into the JW thing in 2001. That was a long long time ago.
Does he go door to door AT ALL? Does he attend Kingdom Hall at least once a week but preferably twice? Does he associate with people in his congregation outside of Larry and Larry's family? Maybe he does read the bible often. I think, however, he likes his own interpretation of what he reads verses the official Jehovah's Witness one. My vote ia that he wants out and he doesn't want to take the steps. Songs like Dance for Me, "Here I Come" and Elixer, let me know he clearly does not care if the Witnesses feel offended and if they don't like it they can simply kick him out. Certainly Bria will not stay a minute longer than he does. The only problem will be Larry. Prince won't need Larry's friendship anymore and the whole situaltion might become awkward between them if Prince leaves. Prince won't have any reason any longer to butter Larry's bread and the gravy train for Larry may come to an end. There came a time when the risk of remaining tight in the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. Anais Nin. | |
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this topic is uncomfortable for me let him praise in peace | |
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Deadflow3r said: you already know how I feel about this. For whatever reason, he was very into the JW thing in 2001. That was a long long time ago.
Does he go door to door AT ALL? Does he attend Kingdom Hall at least once a week but preferably twice? Does he associate with people in his congregation outside of Larry and Larry's family? Maybe he does read the bible often. I think, however, he likes his own interpretation of what he reads verses the official Jehovah's Witness one. My vote ia that he wants out and he doesn't want to take the steps. Songs like Dance for Me, "Here I Come" and Elixer, let me know he clearly does not care if the Witnesses feel offended and if they don't like it they can simply kick him out. Certainly Bria will not stay a minute longer than he does. The only problem will be Larry. Prince won't need Larry's friendship anymore and the whole situaltion might become awkward between them if Prince leaves. Prince won't have any reason any longer to butter Larry's bread and the gravy train for Larry may come to an end. Where is this Prince utopia that U speak of?
How cool would that be though cuz I'm sorry if anyone disagrees with me here but I think Prince has turned in2 a stuck up snob since the JW's came in2 his life. He really needs to chill out and smile more. IMHO. | |
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 [Edited 11/29/09 2:11am] Fuck the funk - it's time to ditch the worn-out Vegas horns fills, pick up the geee-tar and finally ROCK THE MUTHA-FUCKER!! He hinted at this on Chaos, now it's time to step up and fully DELIVER!!
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LittleSister said: In every interview he gives, he talks about God and the important part it plays in his life. In Paris he even requested the reporters to ask him questions about God.
Every concert he plays, he ends with the words "All praise to Jehovah God". Every album he makes nowadays has the words "Jehovah" somewhere on the inner sleeve. We know his girlfriend converted to the JW beliefs. I guess you could say he's "extremely" religious, especially for European norms. What I find very intruiging, is that this religious beliefs are not reflected in this work with the same intensity. Absolutely, Prince is a very spiritual songwriter and this spirituality is a dominant factor in his work. But if you look at the imagery and symbolism used in his work, it's a strange mixture of esoteric beliefs. Take "Lotusflow3r" : the lotusflower is a very important symbol in Buddhism, but is not a part of christian imagery. The Symbol album was filled with references to ancient Egypt and hermetic beliefs. With the exception of The Rainbow children (that still features some Egyptian references), none of his albums use straight forward biblical references or christian symbolism. Did Prince choose this approach deliberately not to estrange his fans ? I'm not sure, many of them are also devote christians and would not mind - others are atheist or agnosts and simply ignore the spiritual dimension of his music. What do you think ? [Edited 11/26/09 6:47am] Excellent post.  I say yes that Prince chose to incorporate neutral spiritual references and symbolism in his music. I don't think it was done to refrain from estranging any christian fans but as a means to embrace fans of all faiths - even the atheistic faith which one could say is a faith in "nothingness" . I also do not find Prince to be extremely religious but rather moderate as no doubt most people are. It would be impossible for a man with his **cough** passion for living to be extremely religious. That would entail giving up the random pussy/new proteges, reconciling or at least apologizing to his ex-wives since divorce is frowned upon in many faiths, repent for his cheating past (he aint been faithful to any of his chicks), continuing to go door to door to spread the word of the lord, not judging his fellow man (that's a tough one), and even perhaps giving up a good portion of his wealth and chucking some of that ego since you can't take wealth with you to heaven and only the meek shall inherit the earth.
anyway....carry on. | |
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DesireeNevermind said: LittleSister said: In every interview he gives, he talks about God and the important part it plays in his life. In Paris he even requested the reporters to ask him questions about God.
Every concert he plays, he ends with the words "All praise to Jehovah God". Every album he makes nowadays has the words "Jehovah" somewhere on the inner sleeve. We know his girlfriend converted to the JW beliefs. I guess you could say he's "extremely" religious, especially for European norms. What I find very intruiging, is that this religious beliefs are not reflected in this work with the same intensity. Absolutely, Prince is a very spiritual songwriter and this spirituality is a dominant factor in his work. But if you look at the imagery and symbolism used in his work, it's a strange mixture of esoteric beliefs. All I Can Say Is Man!!! Take "Lotusflow3r" : the lotusflower is a very important symbol in Buddhism, but is not a part of christian imagery. The Symbol album was filled with references to ancient Egypt and hermetic beliefs. With the exception of The Rainbow children (that still features some Egyptian references), none of his albums use straight forward biblical references or christian symbolism. Did Prince choose this approach deliberately not to estrange his fans ? I'm not sure, many of them are also devote christians and would not mind - others are atheist or agnosts and simply ignore the spiritual dimension of his music. What do you think ? [Edited 11/26/09 6:47am] Excellent post. I say yes that Prince chose to incorporate neutral spiritual references and symbolism in his music. I don't think it was done to refrain from estranging any christian fans but as a means to embrace fans of all faiths - even the atheistic faith which one could say is a faith in "nothingness" . I also do not find Prince to be extremely religious but rather moderate as no doubt most people are. It would be impossible for a man with his **cough** passion for living to be extremely religious. That would entail giving up the random pussy/new proteges, reconciling or at least apologizing to his ex-wives since divorce is frowned upon in many faiths, repent for his cheating past (he aint been faithful to any of his chicks), continuing to go door to door to spread the word of the lord, not judging his fellow man (that's a tough one), and even perhaps giving up a good portion of his wealth and chucking some of that ego since you can't take wealth with you to heaven and only the meek shall inherit the earth.
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comegetwild said: Deadflow3r said: you already know how I feel about this. For whatever reason, he was very into the JW thing in 2001. That was a long long time ago.
Does he go door to door AT ALL? Does he attend Kingdom Hall at least once a week but preferably twice? Does he associate with people in his congregation outside of Larry and Larry's family? Maybe he does read the bible often. I think, however, he likes his own interpretation of what he reads verses the official Jehovah's Witness one. My vote ia that he wants out and he doesn't want to take the steps. Songs like Dance for Me, "Here I Come" and Elixer, let me know he clearly does not care if the Witnesses feel offended and if they don't like it they can simply kick him out. Certainly Bria will not stay a minute longer than he does. The only problem will be Larry. Prince won't need Larry's friendship anymore and the whole situaltion might become awkward between them if Prince leaves. Prince won't have any reason any longer to butter Larry's bread and the gravy train for Larry may come to an end. Where is this Prince utopia that U speak of?
How cool would that be though cuz I'm sorry if anyone disagrees with me here but I think Prince has turned in2 a stuck up snob since the JW's came in2 his life. He really needs to chill out and smile more. IMHO. Well I don't think the Witnesses or their beliefs can be blamed for his "I am who am" attitude. Being a "lover of self" and a braggard is highly frowned upon in that sect. That's another area where Prince blatantly goes against their belief and could care less whether they like it or not. I am not at home unfortunately, so I can't quote the big purple book that I got this from, But Mavis was quoted as saying in 2007 that in many ways the old Prince is back. I think he is doing what he does in a relationship; He's checked out but waiting for the witnesses to give him his walking papers. There came a time when the risk of remaining tight in the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. Anais Nin. | |
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Hey, what do you think is a Prince Utopia? There came a time when the risk of remaining tight in the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. Anais Nin. | |
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. [Edited 12/21/09 8:43am] ..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind | |
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