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Reply #30 posted 11/24/09 8:16am

ernestsewell

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ernestsewell said:

Did you not get enough answers on this thread, so you started this one with the exact same statement? http://prince.org/msg/7/324469


Tsk tsk. You must be more original than to have two names.



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Reply #31 posted 11/24/09 8:20am

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One of my favourite Prince songs.

If U R going 2 demonstrate Prince's "Rock Opera" side, this is the cut 2 do it with.

Pure Prince (regardless of the Queen comparison), and absolutely brilliant, both musically and lyrically.

That's all 4 now...
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Reply #32 posted 11/24/09 8:22am

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Also, the thought of that song being done in one take is mind blowing... even with overdubs.
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Reply #33 posted 11/24/09 8:41am

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Reply #34 posted 11/24/09 9:17am

ernestsewell

Giovanni777 said:

Also, the thought of that song being done in one take is mind blowing... even with overdubs.

Totally agree. I can't see where there'd be many overdubs, but just the idea of timing, precious, etc, as a band, to pull off that song is downright amazing.
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Reply #35 posted 11/24/09 9:20am

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Reply #36 posted 11/24/09 9:54am

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Reply #37 posted 11/24/09 10:13am

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this song is amazing one of my fave P songs
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Reply #38 posted 11/24/09 10:34am

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this song is amazing one of my fave P songs

I love the pic in your avatar. Years ago, I had that as my PC wallpaper. Great picture.
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Reply #39 posted 11/25/09 11:27am

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this song is.... intresting hmmm

its like a mixture of orchestra and rock and roll nod

i also really like the guitar work in this song as well nod

now the lyrics are just falloff lol
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Reply #40 posted 11/25/09 11:34am

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Wait, why was the other thread locked? It was about the COMIC BOOK, and this one is about the SONG. Two completely different things, two completely different discussions.

Back on topic, I've always liked this song. It's not as amazing as "Bohemian Rhapsody," but it works for me as the Prince equivalent, and the guitar work is spectacular in places. I think the fact that it's so polarizing among the fanbase shows that it has something going for it. Prince's more "out there" experiments like this one may not always be perfect, but at least they're interesting.
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Reply #41 posted 11/25/09 11:49am

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renfield said:

Wait, why was the other thread locked? It was about the COMIC BOOK, and this one is about the SONG. Two completely different things, two completely different discussions.

Because we know why.
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Reply #42 posted 11/25/09 12:17pm

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ernestsewell said:

renfield said:

Wait, why was the other thread locked? It was about the COMIC BOOK, and this one is about the SONG. Two completely different things, two completely different discussions.

Because we know why.

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Reply #43 posted 11/25/09 12:23pm

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ernestsewell said:

renfield said:

Wait, why was the other thread locked? It was about the COMIC BOOK, and this one is about the SONG. Two completely different things, two completely different discussions.

Because we know why.

Explain it to me one more time Ernie
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Reply #44 posted 11/25/09 1:48pm

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ernestsewell said:

renfield said:

Wait, why was the other thread locked? It was about the COMIC BOOK, and this one is about the SONG. Two completely different things, two completely different discussions.

Because we know why.


Sorry, I should have specified that I was asking a moderator.
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Reply #45 posted 11/25/09 8:12pm

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Hatman said:

HonestMan13 said:

My favorite part...

"U say U'll call me and then U don't
eye'll want 2 kiss U and then eye won't
We both do nothing and call it love
Is this love? Is this love?


Simply beautiful and the falsetto is perfection!
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Couldn't agree more, it's one of the most sublime moments of his career!
The composition of that bit is amazing too!



3 Chains O' Gold

If I don't think about the fact that she left me
If I don't see the pearls fall from the sky
If I don't hear the accusations of blasphemy
If I don't feel the tears in my eyes
This is the best day of my life
U say u'll call me and then and then u don't
I'll want 2 kiss u and then I won't
We both do nothing and call it love
Is this love?
Is this love?

This morning I wanted a cup of coffee
But I didn't have any cream
Last night I wanted some inspiration
But I didn't have any dreams
Coupled with the fact that u belong 2 another
Whose name is self-righteousness
So evil girl, if one of us has a date
with the undertaker, which one will it be?
U can cry 4 ever, but u'll get no sympathy
This is the best day of my life

I've got 3 chains o' gold
And they will shine 4 ever
They are the nucleus of my soul
Melt down, no, they will never

I've got 3 chains o' gold
And they will shine 4 ever
They are the nucleus of my soul
Melt down, no, they will never

Give back the chains - if you don't you will die
Nothing should come between you and I

I've got 3 chains o' gold
And they will shine 4 ever
If one of us has 2 go
U will go before me

If one of us has 2 go (3 chains o' gold)
U will go before me
(3 chains o' gold)
u will go before me, baby (they will shine 4 ever)
cuz I sho 'nuff say u will

(3 chains o' gold)
(u will go before me)
(u will go before me)
(u will go before me)
(u will go before me)

I've got 3 chains o' gold
They gonna shine...

Forever, forever, forever

(3 chains o' gold)
I'll die in your arms under the cherry moon...
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Reply #46 posted 11/27/09 4:06am

Bewdy

Giovanni777 said:

and absolutely brilliant, both musically and lyrically.



This morning I wanted a cup of coffee
But I didn't have any cream
Last night I wanted some inspiration
But I didn't have any dreams

Come on THESE LYRICS ARE SHIT??? Almost as bad as Des'ree, "I don't want to see a ghost/It's the sight that I fear most/I'd rather have a piece of toast/Watch the evening news"

Good tune though... biggrin
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Reply #47 posted 11/27/09 4:20am

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Bewdy said:

Giovanni777 said:

and absolutely brilliant, both musically and lyrically.



This morning I wanted a cup of coffee
But I didn't have any cream
Last night I wanted some inspiration
But I didn't have any dreams

Come on THESE LYRICS ARE SHIT??? Almost as bad as Des'ree, "I don't want to see a ghost/It's the sight that I fear most/I'd rather have a piece of toast/Watch the evening news"

Good tune though... biggrin
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Hmmm, but I've always felt that those lyrics are deliberately uninspired, contrived to be, because it reflects what he is singing about - in other words, here's a fairly lazy line due to the lack of inspiration....in itself and inspired way to write wink

Those Des'ree lyrics, however, are just shite!! An attempt to appear existentialist and whimsical.
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...we have only scratched the surface of what the mind can do...

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Reply #48 posted 11/27/09 4:58am

Bewdy

Good tune though... biggrin
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[/quote]

Hmmm, but I've always felt that those lyrics are deliberately uninspired, contrived to be, because it reflects what he is singing about - in other words, here's a fairly lazy line due to the lack of inspiration....in itself and inspired way to write wink

Those Des'ree lyrics, however, are just shite!! An attempt to appear existentialist and whimsical.
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[/quote]

So you're saying, that poor lyrics by prince are intentionally so, which is itself inspired? and poor lyrics by another artist are just poor. i think you are over defending, what are essentially, the lyrics of a school child's calibre.

Perhaps I missing something but the lyrics to this tune seem to have no thread at all, they just chop and change form one thing to another, as does the music for that matter. It just so happens I prefer the music to the lyrics in this case. The whole undertaker section of this tune I think is contrived and trying to hard to be operatic, the side of prince I wish he really wouldn't push on us, as per the whole karma sutra nonsense. ugh!
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Reply #49 posted 11/27/09 5:15am

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Good stuff. cool
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Reply #50 posted 11/27/09 6:20am

brechten

it's creative 2 the max !
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Reply #51 posted 11/27/09 6:37am

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Love this song, love this album, Prince really was on fire here.


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Reply #52 posted 11/27/09 11:47am

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Bewdy said:

Good tune though... biggrin
[Edited 11/27/09 4:09am]


Mindflux said:


Hmmm, but I've always felt that those lyrics are deliberately uninspired, contrived to be, because it reflects what he is singing about - in other words, here's a fairly lazy line due to the lack of inspiration....in itself and inspired way to write wink

Those Des'ree lyrics, however, are just shite!! An attempt to appear existentialist and whimsical.
[Edited 11/27/09 4:21am]


Bewdy said





So you're saying, that poor lyrics by prince are intentionally so, which is itself inspired? and poor lyrics by another artist are just poor. i think you are over defending, what are essentially, the lyrics of a school child's calibre.

Perhaps I missing something but the lyrics to this tune seem to have no thread at all, they just chop and change form one thing to another, as does the music for that matter. It just so happens I prefer the music to the lyrics in this case. The whole undertaker section of this tune I think is contrived and trying to hard to be operatic, the side of prince I wish he really wouldn't push on us, as per the whole karma sutra nonsense. ugh!


No, I'm not generalising - I'm taking both the specific lyrics you quoted and analysing them IN CONTEXT of the song they come from - not generalising that Prince can never write a crap lyric, or that its always defensible when he does. What I am doing is providing the justification for it here, in Prince's case - it might be intentional or not, that's the beauty of interpreting art! So, no, not over-defending, just providing a specific answer to a specific question.

Again, the whole "chop and change" aspect of the track, both lyrically and in musical style is just typical of the very genre he is attempting (the dramatic rock-opera style a la Queen and various musicals and stage productions) - its not my favourite style either, but that doesn't stop me appreciating the brilliance that is contained within those tracks. As an aside, I really can't stand "Strays of the World", but there are still elements of it that make it interesting on the rare occasions I hear it!
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My dance project;
www.zubzub.co.uk

Listen to any of my tracks in full, for free, here;
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Reply #53 posted 11/27/09 7:41pm

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While a very unique song on a very complex 3 cd set, i would place it as one of the weaker songs on the set. Not really sure what he was aiming at here either.

I do not compare this in the least to queen. If I wanted to give an album of his a tracing homage to anything slightly queen, it would be LoveSexy. and mostly the song AnnaStasia (did I spell it wrong?)

I usually shy back from those songs where Prince tries to make himself sound big, bad and untouchable. This is not the Prince I relate to. I like the Prince that shares his vulnerabilities in his music, the Prince who seems to try to reach for that perfect peace with life, and like us all finds that invisible things are hard to find. This was my draw to 3121. It was a man sharing himself and having fun. Sometimes Prince takes himself a little too seriously, and he is not very good at pulling that off without making it very cringe worthy.
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Reply #54 posted 11/27/09 9:13pm

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hollywooddove said:

While a very unique song on a very complex 3 cd set, i would place it as one of the weaker songs on the set. Not really sure what he was aiming at here either.

I do not compare this in the least to queen. If I wanted to give an album of his a tracing homage to anything slightly queen, it would be LoveSexy. and mostly the song AnnaStasia (did I spell it wrong?)

I usually shy back from those songs where Prince tries to make himself sound big, bad and untouchable. This is not the Prince I relate to. I like the Prince that shares his vulnerabilities in his music, the Prince who seems to try to reach for that perfect peace with life, and like us all finds that invisible things are hard to find. This was my draw to 3121. It was a man sharing himself and having fun. Sometimes Prince takes himself a little too seriously, and he is not very good at pulling that off without making it very cringe worthy.



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Reply #55 posted 11/28/09 1:49pm

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hollywooddove said:[quote]While a very unique song on a very complex 3 cd set, i would place it as one of the weaker songs on the set. Not really sure what he was aiming at here either.

Am I missing something???
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Reply #56 posted 11/28/09 2:07pm

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ernestsewell said:


Because we know why.




where's the dancing cat with w 3 chains of gold around him???
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Reply #57 posted 11/28/09 9:16pm

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I love this song.
However, whenever I see think of the words 'Three Chains O Gold' I can only think of that strange lady with the strange accent shouting "Mayte! It's your farrrther!".
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Reply #58 posted 11/28/09 9:47pm

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unbelieveably terrible song.

the guitar solo is nice though.
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Reply #59 posted 11/28/09 10:00pm

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purplepolitician said:

i think i'm probably the only one that thinks this song kicks ass headbang lol boxed

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