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Prince's Critics It's interesting how if a critic gives a bad review of a Prince album, many of you attack his review like wolves. I wonder why most of you can't just accept another person's opinion. He doesn't like an album, so he's an asshole, or he doesn't know what he's talking about. What the fuck is that? Well if you wanna run that logic, then you're all assholes if there's any one album you don't like. A critics job is to tell the world how he/she feels about something. You act like Prince himself is gonna see your defending comments and personally call and thank you.
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I agree...except for a few changes:
"It's interesting how if a fan gives a good review of a Prince album, many of you attack his review like wolves. I wonder why most of you can't just accept another person's opinion. He likes an album, so he's an asskisser, or he doesn't know what he's talking about. What the fuck is that? Well if you wanna run that logic, then you're all assholes if there's any one album you like. A fan's right is to tell the world how he/she feels about something. You act like Prince himself is gonna see your mocking these fans who love his output and personally call and say "You know what...you're right!!...I'm gonna change!" People, hear me now! Stop caring who's cock people love riding!" | |
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Inetersting reply. However I never cared if anyone liked a piece of Prince's music. What I find silly is how people just keep defending everything he does, or when they use Prince-ism, or when they get angry if someone doesn't like a record. If you like TRC, fine, but quit acting like you're Prince's wife. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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EvilWhiteMale said: It's interesting how if a critic gives a bad review of a Prince album, many of you attack his review like wolves. I wonder why most of you can't just accept another person's opinion. He doesn't like an album, so he's an asshole, or he doesn't know what he's talking about. What the fuck is that? Well if you wanna run that logic, then you're all assholes if there's any one album you don't like. A critics job is to tell the world how he/she feels about something. You act like Prince himself is gonna see your defending comments and personally call and thank you.
People, hear me now! Get off the Purple cock! Um the reason most attack a critc of ONA is not because they said they didn't like it, its the reasons why which are dubious. You know this. Not talking about fam fanatics but for the most part some who have been critical of the critcs have done so in an intelligent way..which the reviewer has not. Most negative reviewers of ONA have written some stupid shit negating most of their opinion. Dont front like they haven't and that this isn't just a post to attack those who like Princes recent output for all to see. So make the post about fanatics, not a general post about not accepting someones obvious biased and uneducated opinion. What I want to know is why there are people who give a fuck that there are those who dont like what a reviewer says. . [This message was edited Sat Jan 11 17:38:09 PST 2003 by rdhull] "Climb in my fur." | |
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EvilWhiteMale said: Inetersting reply. However I never cared if anyone liked a piece of Prince's music. What I find silly is how people just keep defending everything he does, or when they use Prince-ism, or when they get angry if someone doesn't like a record. If you like TRC, fine, but quit acting like you're Prince's wife.
Why do you care? If you are so above it all you wouldn't even bother lol. "Climb in my fur." | |
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EvilWhiteMale said: Inetersting reply. However I never cared if anyone liked a piece of Prince's music.
And I never cared if anyone didn't...but you weren't referring to me specifically, and I wasn't referring to you specifically...we were both referring to that (thankfully) small segment of the Prince fan population who get bent way, way out of shape because a critic/fan liked or disliked something they did/didn't... What I find silly is how people just keep defending everything he does
Truth be told, you probably don't really know or care if anyone has defended everything Prince has done...you just assume they must have if they're defending something you find weak and lame... or when they use Prince-ism
What does that have to do with how anyone reacts to Prince's critics??...???... or when they get angry if someone doesn't like a record.
I agree wit ya...cuz I find it silly when people get angry if someone does like a record...("How could you possibly like TRC??...You have your head stuck too far up Prince's ass if you like that!") If you like TRC, fine, but quit acting like you're Prince's wife.
I agree again...and would add onto that, if you don't like TRC, fine, but quit acting like you're Prince's ex-wife. | |
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Aight. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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EvilWhiteMale said: It's interesting how if a critic gives a bad review of a Prince album, many of you attack his review like wolves. I wonder why most of you can't just accept another person's opinion. He doesn't like an album, so he's an asshole, or he doesn't know what he's talking about. What the fuck is that? Well if you wanna run that logic, then you're all assholes if there's any one album you don't like. A critics job is to tell the world how he/she feels about something. You act like Prince himself is gonna see your defending comments and personally call and thank you.
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rdhull said: EvilWhiteMale said: It's interesting how if a critic gives a bad review of a Prince album, many of you attack his review like wolves. I wonder why most of you can't just accept another person's opinion. He doesn't like an album, so he's an asshole, or he doesn't know what he's talking about. What the fuck is that? Well if you wanna run that logic, then you're all assholes if there's any one album you don't like. A critics job is to tell the world how he/she feels about something. You act like Prince himself is gonna see your defending comments and personally call and thank you.
People, hear me now! Get off the Purple cock! Um the reason most attack a critc of ONA is not because they said they didn't like it, its the reasons why which are dubious. You know this. Not talking about fam fanatics but for the most part some who have been critical of the critcs have done so in an intelligent way..which the reviewer has not. Most negative reviewers of ONA have written some stupid shit negating most of their opinion. Dont front like they haven't and that this isn't just a post to attack those who like Princes recent output for all to see. So make the post about fanatics, not a general post about not accepting someones obvious biased and uneducated opinion. What I want to know is why there are people who give a fuck that there are those who dont like what a reviewer says. . [This message was edited Sat Jan 11 17:38:09 PST 2003 by rdhull] There is no one right way to review his albums. The person does not have to have a vast knowledge of Prince and follow his every footstep to be allowed to sit down, listen to a CD and say what he/she thinks of it. More often than not, fanatics get bent when they run into people who don't agree with them. To which I say, get over it. Being nasty towards everyone who doesn't have the same interests as you isn't going to cause the world to conform to your tastes. Anyone can say what they think of Prince's music at any given time, no matter what background they are coming from and their opinion is just as valid as the next guys. | |
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NPGMCsucks said: rdhull said: EvilWhiteMale said: It's interesting how if a critic gives a bad review of a Prince album, many of you attack his review like wolves. I wonder why most of you can't just accept another person's opinion. He doesn't like an album, so he's an asshole, or he doesn't know what he's talking about. What the fuck is that? Well if you wanna run that logic, then you're all assholes if there's any one album you don't like. A critics job is to tell the world how he/she feels about something. You act like Prince himself is gonna see your defending comments and personally call and thank you.
People, hear me now! Get off the Purple cock! Um the reason most attack a critc of ONA is not because they said they didn't like it, its the reasons why which are dubious. You know this. Not talking about fam fanatics but for the most part some who have been critical of the critcs have done so in an intelligent way..which the reviewer has not. Most negative reviewers of ONA have written some stupid shit negating most of their opinion. Dont front like they haven't and that this isn't just a post to attack those who like Princes recent output for all to see. So make the post about fanatics, not a general post about not accepting someones obvious biased and uneducated opinion. What I want to know is why there are people who give a fuck that there are those who dont like what a reviewer says. . [This message was edited Sat Jan 11 17:38:09 PST 2003 by rdhull] There is no one right way to review his albums. Um, yes there is. And its with an unnbiased slant. A little knowledge doesnt hurt either (see the best part is the Diamonds n Pearls segment on the Vibe review) The person does not have to have a vast knowledge of Prince and follow his every footstep to be allowed to sit down, listen to a CD and say what he/she thinks of it.
No shit...dont make it seem like that fans require a reviewer to have been down from day one till this very moment. It does help to know an artists growth though, any artist. That way you dont get idiotic statements like "The best part is a Diamionds n Pearls segment" influiencing folks who may buy it in the wrong way. More often than not, fanatics get bent when they run into people who don't agree with them.
More often than not its basically when a reviewer is way of the mark such as Vibe etc. And more often than not there are those getting bent about those who are supposedly bent when they run into people who dont agree with them To which I say, get over it.
pot meet the kettle Being nasty towards everyone who doesn't have the same interests as you isn't going to cause the world to conform to your tastes.
How maNy times does this have to be said..hello!McFlys out there ...there are maybe 9 percent of fans who react that way while the rest of fanatics could give a fuck what someone says. This overgeneralization of those who intelligently debate or decry bullshit opinions and merely stating theirs must stop. Im here to help 
Anyone can say what they think of Prince's music at any given time, no matter what background they are coming from
No shit..is this supposed to be news? and their opinion is just as valid as the next guys.
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rdhull said: EvilWhiteMale said: It's interesting how if a critic gives a bad review of a Prince album, many of you attack his review like wolves. I wonder why most of you can't just accept another person's opinion. He doesn't like an album, so he's an asshole, or he doesn't know what he's talking about. What the fuck is that? Well if you wanna run that logic, then you're all assholes if there's any one album you don't like. A critics job is to tell the world how he/she feels about something. You act like Prince himself is gonna see your defending comments and personally call and thank you.
People, hear me now! Get off the Purple cock! Um the reason most attack a critc of ONA is not because they said they didn't like it, its the reasons why which are dubious. You know this. Not talking about fam fanatics but for the most part some who have been critical of the critcs have done so in an intelligent way..which the reviewer has not. Most negative reviewers of ONA have written some stupid shit negating most of their opinion. Dont front like they haven't and that this isn't just a post to attack those who like Princes recent output for all to see. So make the post about fanatics, not a general post about not accepting someones obvious biased and uneducated opinion. What I want to know is why there are people who give a fuck that there are those who dont like what a reviewer says. . [This message was edited Sat Jan 11 17:38:09 PST 2003 by rdhull] RDHULL and Wellbeyond just broke it down so well there's nothing but table scraps left. I've criticized both the positive and negative reviews for their lack of balance, lack of logic, lack of any kind of fact checking, or just plain laziness and lack of professional pride. I don't have anything against criticism of Prince, nor myself, nor anyone else. I welcome constructive criticism with open arms. You will never grow as a person just sitting around being ultra defensive, trying to avoid reading anything but that which you agree with. Unfortunately too much of the discussion here and elsewhere on the Internet ends up unraveling into wars between the obsessed. On the one side you've got those who don't seem to have a critical bone in their body, who appear to love and/or worship everything Prince does or is. These types of fans can't bear hearing even the slightest bit of criticism. On the other end of the addiction spectrum you have those who appear to hate everything he does, yet still spend an inordinate amount of time on the Internet talking, writing, and jacking off over each and every new bootleg release as if were manna straight from heaven. These types of addicted fans can’t bear to see Prince praised for that which they don’t like. My guess is that these two groups -- both very much in need of a good 12-step program -- are very much in the minority. However, because they tend to be the loudest and most obnoxious, it sometimes can be overwhelming to those who just want to participate in some sometimes intelligent, sometimes goofball, sometimes critical discussions. So if you feel yourself getting upset at the slightest piece of criticism or feel yourself getting upset at the slightest bit of praise, stop yourself, take a few deep breaths, and try to learn from those who have different opinions than yours. Or people can continue to battle with this ridiculously simplified asskisser/naysayer nonsense. | |
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Brendan said: On the other end of the addiction spectrum you have those who appear to hate everything he does, yet still spend an inordinate amount of time on the Internet talking, writing, and jacking off over each and every new bootleg release as if were manna straight from heaven. This is a little contradictory. Or is there something that you really want to say? | |
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Brendan your review was I dare say the best piece of Prince music release criticism I have ever read. It stated the good and bad in a fair and impartial way that didn't insult the intelligence of hardocre fans who knew Prince history, those who are not as deep into Prince or new to Prince. You gave the good and bad without the bullshit or bias. "Climb in my fur." | |
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4LOVE said: Brendan said: On the other end of the addiction spectrum you have those who appear to hate everything he does, yet still spend an inordinate amount of time on the Internet talking, writing, and jacking off over each and every new bootleg release as if were manna straight from heaven. This is a little contradictory. Or is there something that you really want to say? Yeah, it is contradictory, isn't it? It's also reality for many. It's called addiction. | |
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rdhull said: Brendan your review was I dare say the best piece of Prince music release criticism I have ever read. It stated the good and bad in a fair and impartial way that didn't insult the intelligence of hardocre fans who knew Prince history, those who are not as deep into Prince or new to Prince. You gave the good and bad without the bullshit or bias.
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Brendan said: 4LOVE said: Brendan said: On the other end of the addiction spectrum you have those who appear to hate everything he does, yet still spend an inordinate amount of time on the Internet talking, writing, and jacking off over each and every new bootleg release as if were manna straight from heaven. This is a little contradictory. Or is there something that you really want to say? Yeah, it is contradictory, isn't it? It's also reality for many. It's called addiction. I thought you were showing the opposite ends, but it seems one side only "appears" to hate Prince. It comes across as both sides actually liking Prince in reality. | |
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rdhull said: Brendan your review was I dare say the best piece of Prince music release criticism I have ever read. It stated the good and bad in a fair and impartial way that didn't insult the intelligence of hardocre fans who knew Prince history, those who are not as deep into Prince or new to Prince. You gave the good and bad without the bullshit or bias.
I really appreciate you saying that, because striving for balance is my first, second and third concern. As hard as I try, though, I still fear that I fail more than I succeed and then I end up regretting a certain sentence here or a certain sentiment there. I’m too much of a perfectionist and of course no one can ever achieve perfect objectivity. But, damn, some don’t even appear to put forth an honest effort at the task. I'd give you an honest compliment here about you being quite balanced and VERY quick witted yourself, but it might come across as just returning a compliment with a compliment, which it most certainly is not.  | |
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4LOVE said: Brendan said: 4LOVE said: Brendan said: On the other end of the addiction spectrum you have those who appear to hate everything he does, yet still spend an inordinate amount of time on the Internet talking, writing, and jacking off over each and every new bootleg release as if were manna straight from heaven. This is a little contradictory. Or is there something that you really want to say? Yeah, it is contradictory, isn't it? It's also reality for many. It's called addiction. I thought you were showing the opposite ends, but it seems one side only "appears" to hate Prince. It comes across as both sides actually liking Prince in reality. Ironic, that, huh? The haters and the lovers have a lot in common when you really start looking beneath the surface. I'm not sure how to break it down any clearer. Look at the proceeding paragraph, I outline and define each end of the spectrum as clear as I know how to. I'm just reporting the behavior I see. | |
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Brendan said: 4LOVE said: Brendan said: 4LOVE said: Brendan said: On the other end of the addiction spectrum you have those who appear to hate everything he does, yet still spend an inordinate amount of time on the Internet talking, writing, and jacking off over each and every new bootleg release as if were manna straight from heaven. This is a little contradictory. Or is there something that you really want to say? Yeah, it is contradictory, isn't it? It's also reality for many. It's called addiction. I thought you were showing the opposite ends, but it seems one side only "appears" to hate Prince. It comes across as both sides actually liking Prince in reality. Ironic, that, huh? The haters and the lovers have a lot in common when you really start looking beneath the surface. I'm not sure how to break it down any clearer. Look at the proceeding paragraph, I outline and define each end of the spectrum as clear as I know how to. I'm just reporting the behavior I see. Fair enough, i just wanted to make sure i wasn't reading into anything. assess, make sure, then... | |
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4LOVE said: Brendan said: 4LOVE said: Brendan said: 4LOVE said: Brendan said: On the other end of the addiction spectrum you have those who appear to hate everything he does, yet still spend an inordinate amount of time on the Internet talking, writing, and jacking off over each and every new bootleg release as if were manna straight from heaven. This is a little contradictory. Or is there something that you really want to say? Yeah, it is contradictory, isn't it? It's also reality for many. It's called addiction. I thought you were showing the opposite ends, but it seems one side only "appears" to hate Prince. It comes across as both sides actually liking Prince in reality. Ironic, that, huh? The haters and the lovers have a lot in common when you really start looking beneath the surface. I'm not sure how to break it down any clearer. Look at the proceeding paragraph, I outline and define each end of the spectrum as clear as I know how to. I'm just reporting the behavior I see. Fair enough, i just wanted to make sure i wasn't reading into anything. assess, make sure, then... That's cool. I wasn't absolutely sure what you were getting at, so it made it hard to address you. Seems you weren't exactly sure of where I was coming from either. Sometimes written communication can be so confusing. Ahhh! :OMFG: | |
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I'm glad to see some intelligence in the thread. I'm sure there's a lot of people who won't touch this issue cuz they're too damn one-sided. People think I'm extreme with my opinions, but I'm open to hear other ideas. What's really stupid is how people jump on my ass for saying something they don't like, as if I said something about their mothers. I don't mind arguing about shit, but damn, have a valid point. I think Prince's new stuff sucks dick, but I have no problem with anyone else liking it. Some people need to chill the fuck out. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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Here is why I get mad. Because Prince's music is so way above everybody elses in Quality and how can a Critic say something Negative? I just can't understand it. As far as his concerts well I've never been disappointed by them ever. I'm not Expecting Prince or anybody to call me up and thank me. This is just how I Feel and I can't fathom Prince -Bashing. | |
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Natasha said: Here is why I get mad. Because Prince's music is so way above everybody elses in Quality and how can a Critic say something Negative? I just can't understand it. As far as his concerts well I've never been disappointed by them ever. I'm not Expecting Prince or anybody to call me up and thank me. This is just how I Feel and I can't fathom Prince -Bashing.
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Natasha said: Here is why I get mad. Because Prince's music is so way above everybody elses in Quality and how can a Critic say something Negative?
Natasha, not everyone thinks that, that's their opinion, why would you get mad? ~KiKi | |
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Like I said People Prince's music is So much better than anyone elses so I just can't fathom a bad review. Also,if a Friend knows I enjoy his music so much why would somebody who doesn't like him as such even Think I would hang out with them? Since I feel strongly about him I could Never be with a Prince Basher. Ever! And a Fan pretending to be all into Him but I see their true colors and all and I can tell you better take a walk cause I can smell Phony a Mile Away . | |
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Natasha said: Like I said People Prince's music is So much better than anyone elses so I just can't fathom a bad review. Also,if a Friend knows I enjoy his music so much why would somebody who doesn't like him as such even Think I would hang out with them? Since I feel strongly about him I could Never be with a Prince Basher. Ever! And a Fan pretending to be all into Him but I see their true colors and all and I can tell you better take a walk cause I can smell Phony a Mile Away .
But not everyone likes prince's music, people have different tastes. You wouldn't be friends wiith someone if they didn't like prince? I have friends that aren't crazy about prince, and we get along just fine. Why should everyone have to like prince's music? What you hate someone may love, everyone's entitled to like what they want to like. Now unless they're calling him gay or something like that I don't see why you would get so upset. ~KiKi | |
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Well,that's you and not me. My friends have gotta have stuff in Common with me. If you don't like him or are gonna Bash him well I just don't wanna hang with ya as I Adore Him. So, yes you wanna laugh or make fun of Him somewhat well I don't Wanna Know ya. | |
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God bless you, Natasha.  I think I could learn a lot by studying the contents of your lunchbox.   | |
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I also think C.J. calling Prince Symbolina is Disrespectful of him and as an African American Sister why is she going to bash Prince an African American by calling him Symbolina? She is a DISGRACE calling him That! She should Respect him as a Truly Cool and Musically Talented Brother. What in The Hell is Wrong with her and her INSENSITIVITY? Why is she still working for the Star Tribune with DISRESPECT OF MINNEAPOLIS" Most #1 ARTIST? PRINCE ought to have her Thrown in Siberia! Taking bout him like that! That's what I'd do to Miss BILLY JACK BITCH who happens to DISRESPECT AN AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN LIKE SHE DOES...SHE is DISGRACEFUL! Prince helped Mayor Sharon Belton and all. C>J> stop calling Prince SYMBOLINA! YOU CALL YOURSELF A BLACK WOMAN of AFRICAN AMERICAN HERITAGE? YOU are DISPICABLE!! STOP BASHING MY MAN PRINCE!BITCH!! | |
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