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Thread started 11/18/09 2:03pm

BlackAdder7

Prince as an engineer/producer

Prince plays all the instruments on his records, acts as his own producer, and while he has engineers like Chronicfreeze, it's prince's final decision on how something's going to sound.
Outside of his choices of songs to go on his albums, how do you think he is as a producer?

Ex....days of wild. this song is layer on layer on layer of sound, yet it all fits. maybe it's not your favourite prince song,but it's intricate to listen to the different layers of sound
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Reply #1 posted 11/18/09 3:14pm

ernestsewell

A remix is for the purpose of someone else putting a new spin on your song. Yes, you can say Yes or No for it to go on the final tracklist, but isn't it a bit pointless to stand over a remix producer and guide the way? You think Madonna, or MJ were standing over Junior Vasquez or David Morales? Hellz no.

As far as as a producer, it's a good and bad thing that you always know it's "A Prince Production". Nelson George mentioned this a long while back. It's a plus that he has his own sound and way of doing thing, but it's a minus in that artists have to conform to Prince's sound if they want him to produce (or even write) a song for them. Given that - in some ways, Prince is rather inflexible in his production skills, in that he can't fully adapt to someone's sound and enhance that. It's always going to be a "Prince sound". It's a very musically incestuous situation.

We knew "Sugar Walls" was Prince before we ever heard of/saw the writing credit. SO few are the times when a song comes around that we do a double take on whether Prince wrote it or not. For me, a couple of quick examples are "5 Women" from Joe Cocker (although I heard Prince's version first on the In Rock bootleg in 1995), "You're My Love" from Kenny Rogers. Those were more THEIR style, but those are the exception, not the rule.

All that said, it's not a negative statement to say Prince has his own production style and sound, but it is a hindrance at times, I'm sure, lest he realize that or not.
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Reply #2 posted 11/18/09 3:28pm

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Prince is a great producer, as he is great at just about everything he does.

That said he would benefit from just about any collaboration--a true collaboration, not him writing a song for a how woman.

Whether it was co-writing, having someone play drums or other instrument, having Rick Rubin work the dials & someone get some guitar sounds for him--all of it would be worth a try if I had my way.
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Reply #3 posted 11/18/09 3:29pm

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BlackAdder7 said:


Ex....days of wild. this song is layer on layer on layer of sound, yet it all fits. maybe it's not your favourite prince song,but it's intricate to listen to the different layers of sound


I'd say this is as much about how he is a great arranger as producer.
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Reply #4 posted 11/19/09 6:43am

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I don't know much about comparison sound...All I know is I love what I hear. cool
"The Lion Sleeps Tonight...
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