http://hmv.com/hmvweb/dis...sku=302336

UK release date 14/12/09 for MPL Sound Lotusflower 1 disc? Is this like the French release?

£8.99 for pre-order

If you haven't got it this may be a great deal?

Thanks

Savage

i wonder if there will be a "limited" edition of the triple cd set like they did in france

i doubt prince will come over for some promo at xmas though. he's already done his last jam of the year. he can't change his mind again

Yes, this is the same as the French release, most likely just imported French stock actually.

Too little, too late.

unique said:

since when?

NouveauDance said:

Yeah. Anyone who wanted the album would surely have got it by now. He could increase the longevity by pushing another single to radio/making a new music video and actually getting the label to get it on TV.....but what are the chances of that?

Militant said:

Yeah I heard they hired some people to cross out all the les and las and change the word musique to music

LOL. What's the fucking point now?

target here was selling copies for $6,50 on black friday

MattyJam said:

Because there are some, like me, who've only had the download until now and have been waiting for it to get to a sensible price so I can own the actual discs and add them to my collection. I've been checking my local HMV periodically - a month or so ago the 3-disc set (about 10 copies) was £21, so I thought I'd wait a while longer. I went in there last week, only one copy left and that was £38!!! So, again, thought I'd wait - so, this is good news for me

Some will sell. And, really, what does it matter to you anyway?
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Yeah I might ask for this for christmas. I've seen a few in HMV stores, all £30 (which is a fair price for 3 albums, but I don't want all 3, it's expensive etc.).

Plus I want Crimson + Clover!

Mindflux said:

Why didn't you just buy it from eBay?

I got mine for £12 on there about a week after it was released in the States.

MattyJam said:

Because, as an artist myself, I prefer any money I spend to support the artist in question - hence, I don't buy from ebay (unless I was replacing a lost item, for example - but I prefer to buy new anyway). Its both a moral obligation and having to practice what I preach - how can I expect people to pay for my music (fully knowing, of course, that not everyone does), if I don't legitimately pay for it myself?

As a moderately successful artist, I'm not rolling in cash, so have to cut my cloth. And, anyhow, I was happy to live with the download until an appropriately priced product came along, and here it is No sweat, eh?

Mindflux said:

if you knew the first thing about the music business you would understand how much bullshit that is and how wrong you were

sales are made when retailers buy the product, what happens after that is irrelevant. it's like any goods, manufacturer sells to retailer, manufacturer makes profit, retailer sells and makes profit or not depending on the price they sell at. you may have a wholesaler in the middle, but thats irrelevant to the manufacturer

in the music business it's even more fucked up because people are paid advances based on estimated sales, so unless the actual sales from the manufacturer aka record company, exceed the estimate, the artists owes the record company money

basically the artist gets paid a lump sum for making the record, what happens after that is pretty irrelevant unless the record is a surprise hit, and then the artist may get more money, but then if that's the case they get so much money your example of fleabay means nothing to them

just download the fucking albums and don't let the record companies get money. let the record companies die out, and let the artists get back to a position they were in over a hundred years ago before record companies turned art into business. then you won't have shit like shitney spears at number one

unique said:

No need to be so belligerent or assumptive about what I know! I am well aware of advance payment structures - they are generally applicable to major label acts yes, not smaller, independent artists like myself. Distribution deals differ - I get no advance from the label and get paid on actual sales and downloads as opposed to any estimates.

Your post contradicts itself anyway - as you rightly state, if the advance doesn't match the sales, then the artist ends up owing the label. So, actually, it will favour the artist for more albums to be legitimately sold and help recoup against the advance! Your utopian rally against the man seems admirable enough, just not very well considered.

However, we are trying to take more control of our sales by setting up our own label for the next album.

I still won't advocate or partake in downloading albums for nothing, whether or not a record label or any other third-party get a share (someone always will - even with our own label, we will still have to pay the distributor) - some of that money still rightfully goes to the artist and should continue to do so. No, a purchase on ebay won't necessarily hurt an artist with the earnings of the likes of Prince, but it does hurt those who sell more modest numbers.

I'd like to add that the first thing I do know about the music business is the business that affects me. The business models and markets I deal with are a million miles away from the mainstream and major corporations. I don't pretend to be an authority on the music business at large and, in fact, the less I can deal with the business side of things the better - making music is what I do and do best and business eventually gets in the way of the creativity. But sharing an empathy for artists getting paid for their work is something at the forefront of my mind.....sorry if that abhors you!
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[Edited 12/2/09 13:41pm]

I only *just* got my copy, and only because my sister happened to be in Paris last Friday!

Considering Prince is on his own label now, isn't it fair to assume he's getting a larger slice of sales (minus distribution costs)?

The release schedule for these albums is seriously constipated though!

NouveauDance said:

Yeeeeep!


Although you can buy the 3 disc verison here in Australia for $39.

Mine is on it's way. Will let you know when I get it.

Wow, i bought mine for £29.99 and it would have been worth every penny, if only i'd have kept that money in my pocket and spent it on something else.

The guy needs a manager

Le Nouvel Album de Prince

Looks like spare copies from France being sold in the UK for £8.99

It is MPLSound album with the title Lotusflow3r? Just 1 disc

Savage said:

oh dear thats a shame and a bit cruddy

Savage said:

Hiya Savage. Have you not heard the album yet? You must have right? Just the way you typed got me curious.

That's strange. The two French LP's I have are different.

1. Lotusflower double LP with Prince face on cover and title above right
2. Mplssound single LP with the title in guitarneck

The picture above is a combination of the two: Artwork of MPLSound LP with title Lotusflower above left. I wonder which songs are on it.

Gerard said:

mplsound songs are on it.

Marrk, yes I already have it. Bought when
it came out and again from Target when
we went to Mpls.

This is our 3rd copy but different than the others

Savage said:

Dear Savage,

WHO IS THE LOTUS AND HIS FLOW,
GOD is everywhere , sees and knows everything.
CHARLATANISM belongs not to GOD.
THE ENERGY IS VERY STRONG AND I CAN,T STOP OR INFLUENCE IT.
THIS KIND OF CONVERSATION CAN,T WORK.
TRANSFORMATION ON THE WAY TO NIRVANA AND GOD,
What says the BIBLE ... do not steal, do not lie .....etc.

...." YOU DON,T HAVE TO WATCH GOSSIP GIRL...."
What is LOVE?

ahh!...now i understand...

?????

I Saw It In HMV for £38 i was like...okay maybe not so near christmas.

Hey, just remembered. I sent Anxiety (The mod) a copy of the french cd, and then he disappeared. Never heard from him again. Has anyone heard from him in a while?





just checked, his user profile is empty now as well??

Strange but true..
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