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Thread started 11/01/09 9:05am

Imago

Has PRINCE ever RUINED someone's career?

It's a double edged sword isn't it? I mean, having all that fame and notoriety. No matter who you run into, if you spend enough time with them, you make them instantly famous for no other reason than you're somehow attached to them.

Monica Lewinski sucked the President's cock, and voila! Instant fame!

But the unintended consequences of this fame is that she can never walk into a job interview again without the interviewer quickly scanning her dress for cum stains.
She can never let her resume speak for itself. She can never hope to be in a one-to-one meeting with a male supervisor without the implied expectation that he's going to get his cock sucked.

Now whether Bria Valente is sucking Prince's 51 year old penis is another story altogether. Certainly at his age, his shaft when not fully erect may not have developed as many wrinkles as his scrotum, but it surely has become more wrinkled. He can't cover his wrinkly old penis up, like with his face, with layers of Mac makeup--especially if he's expecting someone to run their wet lips up and down Mr. Delicious.



Whatever is going on between Bria and Prince, one thing is for certain: He has changed the course of her career for the rest of her life. In my opinion, due to having labored through listening to her album (and I mean labor in the most painful squeeze-a-baby-out-of-your-ripping-vagina sense) I can safely say that Bria is benefiting from her relationship to Prince. She'll continue to benefit from it for the rest of her life even after he dumps her for turning 18 or whatever.


But there are other artists who may or may not have benefited from their relationship to Prince. Lisa & Wendy , in my opinion could probably be enjoying more financial success as an indie act if they had not been tied to Prince.
Kirsten Scott Thomas who starred in UTCM could have been a bigger actress as well.

Tony M. would be enjoying at least a happy retirement hearing himself referenced by new cats , not to mention being the toast of many Vh-1 honors, if he had pursued his career in the underground clubs of major urban centers across America rather than on stage at arenas around the world grinding his penis against Prince's bum as they simulate very gay anal sex to songs like Daddy Pop.



Do you think artists in general benefit or are held back to being tied to such an iconic powerhouse of an artist such as Prince?



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[Edited 11/1/09 9:14am]
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Reply #1 posted 11/01/09 9:15am

djfine

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I have nothing to say on this other than that post just made me laugh so hard I embarrassed myself in front of everyone in the room
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Reply #2 posted 11/01/09 9:24am

BlackAdder7

this thread is a failure.
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Reply #3 posted 11/01/09 9:25am

funkyhead

and how many careers did he MAKE?.
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Reply #4 posted 11/01/09 9:41am

Cinnie

falloff ! touched ! redface ! LAUGHING. SO. HARD.
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Reply #5 posted 11/01/09 11:07am

Sander

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Shiiit!

Hahahahahahaha
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Reply #6 posted 11/01/09 11:12am

Fury

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oh yeah...look at jill jones. bitching because she can't see her 25 year old video on youtube. lol
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Reply #7 posted 11/01/09 11:14am

toots

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lock
Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song wall
Proud Wendy and Lisa Fancy Lesbian asskisser thumbs up!
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Reply #8 posted 11/01/09 11:17am

PurpleDiamond2
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funkyhead said:

and how many careers did he MAKE?.


and ruined?
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Reply #9 posted 11/01/09 11:29am

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giggle
I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart.
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Reply #10 posted 11/01/09 11:54am

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You should write a book or something hmm
I hope Prince is not reading this thread neutral


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Reply #11 posted 11/01/09 11:55am

OnlyNDaUsa

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has ever NOT done so!
[Edited 11/1/09 11:56am]
"Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!"
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Reply #12 posted 11/01/09 12:02pm

ernestsewell

Whether someone works with Prince, or is on a reality show, it's not what the gig can do for you, it's what you do with the gig.
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Reply #13 posted 11/01/09 12:06pm

brightlight

I hope deep in my heart Prince will give anyone who he have hurt an apology.
Everyone that is human has hurt someone. But it takes a person that truly
believe in God to say I'am Sorry. Like you can't change the past. But you can
look forward to the future. And that's when you are at 1 with God. So you action can tell when you are with God.
[Edited 11/1/09 12:18pm]
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Reply #14 posted 11/01/09 12:08pm

Imago

brightlight said:

I hope deep in my heart Prince will give anyone who he have hurt an apology.
Everyone that have been human has hurt someone.But it takes a person that truly
believe in God to say I"am Sorry. Like you can't change the past. But you can change the future. And that's when you are with 1 with God. It's not words
it's the action. Thanks

oh god damn
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Reply #15 posted 11/01/09 12:23pm

brightlight

Imago said:

brightlight said:

I hope deep in my heart Prince will give anyone who he have hurt an apology.
Everyone that have been human has hurt someone.But it takes a person that truly
believe in God to say I"am Sorry. Like you can't change the past. But you can change the future. And that's when you are with 1 with God. It's not words
it's the action. Thanks

oh god damn


I sorry someone is going to make a rude comment C'mon
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Reply #16 posted 11/01/09 12:46pm

aarontj

Imago said:

It's a double edged sword isn't it? I mean, having all that fame and notoriety. No matter who you run into, if you spend enough time with them, you make them instantly famous for no other reason than you're somehow attached to them.

Monica Lewinski sucked the President's cock, and voila! Instant fame!

But the unintended consequences of this fame is that she can never walk into a job interview again without the interviewer quickly scanning her dress for cum stains.
She can never let her resume speak for itself. She can never hope to be in a one-to-one meeting with a male supervisor without the implied expectation that he's going to get his cock sucked.

Now whether Bria Valente is sucking Prince's 51 year old penis is another story altogether. Certainly at his age, his shaft when not fully erect may not have developed as many wrinkles as his scrotum, but it surely has become more wrinkled. He can't cover his wrinkly old penis up, like with his face, with layers of Mac makeup--especially if he's expecting someone to run their wet lips up and down Mr. Delicious.



Whatever is going on between Bria and Prince, one thing is for certain: He has changed the course of her career for the rest of her life. In my opinion, due to having labored through listening to her album (and I mean labor in the most painful squeeze-a-baby-out-of-your-ripping-vagina sense) I can safely say that Bria is benefiting from her relationship to Prince. She'll continue to benefit from it for the rest of her life even after he dumps her for turning 18 or whatever.


But there are other artists who may or may not have benefited from their relationship to Prince. Lisa & Wendy , in my opinion could probably be enjoying more financial success as an indie act if they had not been tied to Prince.
Kirsten Scott Thomas who starred in UTCM could have been a bigger actress as well.

Tony M. would be enjoying at least a happy retirement hearing himself referenced by new cats , not to mention being the toast of many Vh-1 honors, if he had pursued his career in the underground clubs of major urban centers across America rather than on stage at arenas around the world grinding his penis against Prince's bum as they simulate very gay anal sex to songs like Daddy Pop.



Do you think artists in general benefit or are held back to being tied to such an iconic powerhouse of an artist such as Prince?



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"Kirsten Scott Thomas who starred in UTCM could have been a bigger actress as well"?????


In what planet do you live on?
"I have so much love for Prince. But why don't they look at me that way"- MJ
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Reply #17 posted 11/01/09 1:10pm

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ernestsewell said:

Whether someone works with Prince, or is on a reality show, it's not what the gig can do for you, it's what you do with the gig.


sums it up for me!

Talent will shine through no matter. Which is why the likes of W&L, Jesse Johnson etc. continue to have a successful career. wink
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Reply #18 posted 11/01/09 1:19pm

therat

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Lisa Stansfield rejected a song by prince, because she said that women associated with Prince don't last very long. So how's she doing?
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Reply #19 posted 11/01/09 1:22pm

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only in the sense that they had a career (or almost had a career - OOPS, sorry Tamar) based on their association with him in the first place, and then he dumped them, fired them, got bored, whatever. i can't think of anyone who had a career independent of him that he ruined.

well, maybe Kim Bassinger.
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Reply #20 posted 11/01/09 2:06pm

PurpleDiamond2
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brightlight said:

I hope deep in my heart Prince will give anyone who he have hurt an apology.
Everyone that is human has hurt someone. But it takes a person that truly
believe in God to say I'am Sorry. Like you can't change the past. But you can
look forward to the future. And that's when you are at 1 with God. So you action can tell when you are with God.
[Edited 11/1/09 12:18pm]


nod yeahthat
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Reply #21 posted 11/01/09 2:38pm

Se7en

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Under The Cherry Moon didn't ruin Kristin-Scott Thomas' career - she's done very well for herself and was nominated for an Oscar.

Having said that, UTCM is probably the black spot on her resume.
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Reply #22 posted 11/01/09 2:42pm

ernestsewell

Se7en said:

Under The Cherry Moon didn't ruin Kristin-Scott Thomas' career - she's done very well for herself and was nominated for an Oscar.

Having said that, UTCM is probably the black spot on her resume.

Many actors have those beginning movies that were less than desirable. I think unless it's porn or something, it's not a black mark per se, it's just "oh yeah, I did one of those as well" type things.
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Reply #23 posted 11/01/09 2:47pm

BlackCandle

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Yeah.

He's ruined MINE.

I coulda been somebody if I hadn't spent so much time listening to Prince! lol
"Had to get off the boat so I could walk on water..."
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Reply #24 posted 11/01/09 2:47pm

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ernestsewell said:

Se7en said:

Under The Cherry Moon didn't ruin Kristin-Scott Thomas' career - she's done very well for herself and was nominated for an Oscar.

Having said that, UTCM is probably the black spot on her resume.

Many actors have those beginning movies that were less than desirable. I think unless it's porn or something, it's not a black mark per se, it's just "oh yeah, I did one of those as well" type things.



the difference is that those movies are usually not well-known. UTCM was such a high-profile turd for her to make her film debut (and in such a high profile role), i wouldn't be surprised if it was something she had to overcome in the industry.
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Reply #25 posted 11/01/09 2:50pm

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Being serious, I'd suggest Rosie Gaines.
"Had to get off the boat so I could walk on water..."
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Reply #26 posted 11/01/09 3:01pm

ernestsewell

errant said:

the difference is that those movies are usually not well-known. UTCM was such a high-profile turd for her to make her film debut (and in such a high profile role), i wouldn't be surprised if it was something she had to overcome in the industry.

Hmmm, that's an odd call. It bombed, and wasn't seen by a lot of people. It's KNOWN about, but not SEEN, except Prince's hard core fan base.

UTCM wasn't nearly as high profile as PR was, IMO. It came and went, and once it was out of theaters, he concentrated on the tour, and a few singles. She doesn't seem to have suffered any for it though.

Although.....what's Steven Berkoff doing? hahaha
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Reply #27 posted 11/01/09 3:02pm

Alej

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The orger formerly known as theodore
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Reply #28 posted 11/01/09 3:07pm

ernestsewell

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Being serious, I'd suggest Rosie Gaines.

Yeah, but what did she do before that? She had a couple of little albums out, but nothing major. She kept recording after Prince, releasing about 4 albums (and there's one unreleased one I think).

But again...it's what people can do w/ the gig, not what the gig does for them. W&L continued to record, and got into scoring films, TV shows, etc. A lot of the Revolution people continued to work on their own. Fink worked at K-Tel for a long time, and wrote stuff for a video game company before that. Sure he wasn't in the limelight but he was working and did something he enjoyed, made money, etc. Brownmark recorded and released albums. Bobby produced other acts and had his own record company for a bit (I think Alexander O'Neal was on it at some point, as well as Sounds of Blackness, Eric, and others).

And didn't we see Brownmark playing w/ Stevie Wonder and Stevie Ray Vaughn on here recently?

I guess it's how you define "ruined".
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Reply #29 posted 11/01/09 3:23pm

funkyhead

80spfantwp said:

ernestsewell said:

Whether someone works with Prince, or is on a reality show, it's not what the gig can do for you, it's what you do with the gig.


sums it up for me!

Talent will shine through no matter. Which is why the likes of W&L, Jesse Johnson etc. continue to have a successful career. wink

yep, amen to both of you for that. Working with P is another role to put on your CV. So when you look at a CV and it says left PPark in 96 and went on to do fuck all do you as an employer / critic point the finger and say "oooh that nasty prince , he be evil" or you take a close look at the ex employee and begin to ask serious questions about their ability or determination to make it.
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