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PurpleDiamond2
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Prince NEWS album?



does anybody have or like this cd? i know its pretty unpopular here on the org but i want to know what you think of it do you think prince can play jazz music well or what?

i personally like the song North i think its nice nod or do you just absouletly despise this album? lol
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Reply #1 posted 11/04/09 11:03pm

Swa

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PurpleDiamond2009 said:



does anybody have or like this cd? i know its pretty unpopular here on the org but i want to know what you think of it do you think prince can play jazz music well or what?

i personally like the song North i think its nice nod or do you just absouletly despise this album? lol


N.E.W.S.

I had seen the online teaser campaign that announced N.E.W.S. containing four new tracks each 14 minutes long. Straight away I placed my order, and when it arrived at work I placed it into my ibook and listened to it while I worked.

With the opening watery tinged bass of NORTH I submerged myself in the sound. With its hypnotic repetitive melody it just washes into your soul like fresh waves crashing on the shore. The song builds like a gentle storm brewing away in the distance and threatening to break. With the sax and intermittent guitar solo the track builds and builds to the brink of a crescendo before easing off, to be replaced by the tinkering keys of the piano. North always reminded me of storms in the night, that comfort of being safe and sound in your room while it approaches. Just waiting for it to break.

EAST with its synth-laden intro echoes the feel of the title. With a dash of mystic melody we are thrown into the path of the shuffling rolling beat of Mr Blackwell. This is his track. Allowing his skills as a drummer to work the kit to be more than just a backing instrument and allow it to become more melodic – check out the work over the hi hat gets. Similarly to North, at the 8 minute mark East changes direction. At this point it really gathers a full head of steam and moves more solidly into a jazz fusion track. And once again the skins of Mr Blackwell are at the fore, well at least right along side the purple strings of P. The last section of east seems to slowly untangle like the melody is being pulled apart thread by thread, unravelling itself to make way for the new.

The opening strains to WEST remind me a bit of dolphin of the gold experience. This is perhaps the most cohesive song oriented piece on here – and by that I mean it feels like a song ready made for vocals rather than an exploration of music. The first 3 minutes sooth and seduce you like a classic P ballad before stepping it up and blending in some more jazz fusion. For some reason the main section of this song reminds me of something of Herbie Hancock’s Head Hunters album. Just that mix of a simple melody line played to within an inch of its life that captivates before it even comes close to be tired or overplayed. The piano solo deserves special mention here for its free form playing. The final phrasing of the song just lets it tease you with moments of ebb and flow and it goes from a full boil to a smooth simmer.

For me SOUTH is the jewel in the crown. With its funk lead main groove it travels to the highs of bliss before dipping into the shallows of pure melody. I especially love the moog synth solo with a bass line that bubbles and tweaks before taking the track into a moment of epic rock, then before it gets too carried away slides back into the main groove only to climb again. At the 5 minute mark the power makes way for the silence as the song slows and wanders in a field of experimentation before finding its way to the safe haven of a jazz song the rides the final waves of highs and lows before washing away on that classic of all classic end notes.

I wasn’t 100% sold on N.E.W.S. when I first got it. Each song had moments of brilliance but didn’t seem to be able to sustain the 14 minutes dedicated to each direction. As a result it found its place amongst my collection rarely to be brought back out to play. However listening to it now, I can find new highlights in each song that I had missed before.

Its funny that if people discuss Prince’s work as an artist this is an album that doesn’t immediately spring to mind, but here is the true study of an artist. As we all know a Prince instrumental fusion album was never going to be a big seller, but rather than clamour for a smash, he followed where the music lead him. And the true beauty is that here is a free artist, afterall Warners or any other major label would have been totally reluctant to release it. But being a true independent Prince had the freedom (and maybe even the luxury) to present this new direction to us all. And whether or not it is an album that is played often or rarely, we are richer for the chance to hear it.

So what was your take on NEWS? Did it surprise, delight or disappoint?

Swa
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Reply #2 posted 11/04/09 11:27pm

sweething

Just listened to North (for the first time). It took a moment to get into it. The continuity seemed a little off, but as the song continued I liked where it ended--very soothing and relaxing tune. Couldn't help but wonder what North would sound like, loud, with better speakers (car). I'll have another listen but that's my first response.

South is more like funk-jazz fusion. It's o.k. too. Seems Prince was experimenting with different sounds on this cut.

I think my slight prejudice is comparing them to more traditional jazz, both songs end up that way and hence I like the endings better than the beginnings-- both songs.

But I reserve the right to listen again and change my mind. biggrin
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Reply #3 posted 11/04/09 11:41pm

sweething

O.k., hold up wait a minute West is on; I mean ON. That's it. Oh yeah I can hear this...lets get the glass of Chardonnay ready. Picnic.

cheese wing martini



wink
[Edited 11/4/09 23:42pm]
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Reply #4 posted 11/04/09 11:42pm

PurpleDiamond2
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^^^ my take?

i just got done listening to this entire album and i would rate it a 3.5/5

North-really nice slow and sexy nod

West-a beautiful written piece of music love the guitar and the other intruments in this song truely a gem yes

South-pure funk music! headbang

East? umm confused i wasnt really feelin this one lol
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Reply #5 posted 11/04/09 11:45pm

sweething

Can I ask, which if any of these songs were influenced by Papa Nelson?
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Reply #6 posted 11/04/09 11:46pm

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sweething said:

O.k., hold up wait a minute West is on; I mean ON. That's it. Oh yeah I can hear this...lets get the glass of Chardonnay ready. Picnic.

cheese wing martini



wink
[Edited 11/4/09 23:42pm]


excited wink

but yeah this kind of music you wouldnt really play in your car this album is one of this late night quiet cup of java listening albums which is nice to have sometimes nod
[Edited 11/4/09 23:46pm]
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Reply #7 posted 11/04/09 11:54pm

sweething

And last, but not least, East. I like. Traditional flavor--just like a cup of Java in demitasse, of course. Something tells me wherever this tune was written, recorded there had to be a furry rug and black light in the vicinity. lol
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Reply #8 posted 11/05/09 12:43am

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Here's what we thought of it - http://peachandblack.podb...-era-0203/ ... around the 100 minute mark
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Reply #9 posted 11/05/09 1:30am

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It's a great album for a long night drive. Same with the jazzy Vault: Old Friends 4 Sale CD. Something about those two LPs make for perfect dark road trip background music.
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Reply #10 posted 11/05/09 2:33am

NouveauDance

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Hated it for years, but now like it lots, and prefer it to Xpectation.
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Reply #11 posted 11/05/09 2:48am

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as I just said in another thread, there are good bits to it and had it been released in the individual songs it was written/recorded as, then they'd be easier to digest instead of having to wake the four 14 minute song gimmick that he saddled them with.
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Reply #12 posted 11/05/09 2:51am

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West is all I can say worship
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Reply #13 posted 11/05/09 3:35am

purpledoveuk

PurpleDiamond2009 said:



does anybody have or like this cd? i know its pretty unpopular here on the org but i want to know what you think of it do you think prince can play jazz music well or what?

i personally like the song North i think its nice nod or do you just absouletly despise this album? lol



I think it's cack, shocking, second rate poo that was designed to stroke the purple ego by screaming "I do jazz!!!"....but it hot a swift reply of "no you don't!!!"
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Reply #14 posted 11/05/09 4:56am

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I listen to it when I'm in the mood for an instramental...

I have tended to put it on when I am in deep thought about something, it help me think. cool
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Reply #15 posted 11/05/09 5:27am

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I used to play it in my old classroom when the kids were taking a test or working quietly. They would ask for EAST the most because of the guitar part.
I like it when I just want mellow background music. music

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Reply #16 posted 11/05/09 5:38am

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I love this album & wished he did more like it. I know it's not the typical fan fave but it's certainly one of my faves, then again I pretty much like all the albums so I guess I'm pretty easy to please for the most part.
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Reply #17 posted 11/05/09 5:42am

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Swa said:

PurpleDiamond2009 said:



does anybody have or like this cd? i know its pretty unpopular here on the org but i want to know what you think of it do you think prince can play jazz music well or what?

i personally like the song North i think its nice nod or do you just absouletly despise this album? lol


N.E.W.S.

I had seen the online teaser campaign that announced N.E.W.S. containing four new tracks each 14 minutes long. Straight away I placed my order, and when it arrived at work I placed it into my ibook and listened to it while I worked.

With the opening watery tinged bass of NORTH I submerged myself in the sound. With its hypnotic repetitive melody it just washes into your soul like fresh waves crashing on the shore. The song builds like a gentle storm brewing away in the distance and threatening to break. With the sax and intermittent guitar solo the track builds and builds to the brink of a crescendo before easing off, to be replaced by the tinkering keys of the piano. North always reminded me of storms in the night, that comfort of being safe and sound in your room while it approaches. Just waiting for it to break.

EAST with its synth-laden intro echoes the feel of the title. With a dash of mystic melody we are thrown into the path of the shuffling rolling beat of Mr Blackwell. This is his track. Allowing his skills as a drummer to work the kit to be more than just a backing instrument and allow it to become more melodic – check out the work over the hi hat gets. Similarly to North, at the 8 minute mark East changes direction. At this point it really gathers a full head of steam and moves more solidly into a jazz fusion track. And once again the skins of Mr Blackwell are at the fore, well at least right along side the purple strings of P. The last section of east seems to slowly untangle like the melody is being pulled apart thread by thread, unravelling itself to make way for the new.

The opening strains to WEST remind me a bit of dolphin of the gold experience. This is perhaps the most cohesive song oriented piece on here – and by that I mean it feels like a song ready made for vocals rather than an exploration of music. The first 3 minutes sooth and seduce you like a classic P ballad before stepping it up and blending in some more jazz fusion. For some reason the main section of this song reminds me of something of Herbie Hancock’s Head Hunters album. Just that mix of a simple melody line played to within an inch of its life that captivates before it even comes close to be tired or overplayed. The piano solo deserves special mention here for its free form playing. The final phrasing of the song just lets it tease you with moments of ebb and flow and it goes from a full boil to a smooth simmer.

For me SOUTH is the jewel in the crown. With its funk lead main groove it travels to the highs of bliss before dipping into the shallows of pure melody. I especially love the moog synth solo with a bass line that bubbles and tweaks before taking the track into a moment of epic rock, then before it gets too carried away slides back into the main groove only to climb again. At the 5 minute mark the power makes way for the silence as the song slows and wanders in a field of experimentation before finding its way to the safe haven of a jazz song the rides the final waves of highs and lows before washing away on that classic of all classic end notes.

I wasn’t 100% sold on N.E.W.S. when I first got it. Each song had moments of brilliance but didn’t seem to be able to sustain the 14 minutes dedicated to each direction. As a result it found its place amongst my collection rarely to be brought back out to play. However listening to it now, I can find new highlights in each song that I had missed before.

Its funny that if people discuss Prince’s work as an artist this is an album that doesn’t immediately spring to mind, but here is the true study of an artist. As we all know a Prince instrumental fusion album was never going to be a big seller, but rather than clamour for a smash, he followed where the music lead him. And the true beauty is that here is a free artist, afterall Warners or any other major label would have been totally reluctant to release it. But being a true independent Prince had the freedom (and maybe even the luxury) to present this new direction to us all. And whether or not it is an album that is played often or rarely, we are richer for the chance to hear it.

So what was your take on NEWS? Did it surprise, delight or disappoint?

Swa



great review btw, i like ur take on it.
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Reply #18 posted 11/05/09 2:04pm

fakir

It's an instrumental album:period!
Prince never claimed it was a jazz attempt...
I'd rather call it a mix of som' of this & som' of that!
Can't believe why some fans dissing the man for not being
a real jazz player.He is a musician...So he plays whatever
he wants to;and trust me he can can do that!
Funky is just the way he plays music.
NEWS is a good cd and let's not forget that it was nominated for the grammys(instrumental category)!!
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Reply #19 posted 11/05/09 5:04pm

sweething

squirrelgrease said:

It's a great album for a long night drive. Same with the jazzy Vault: Old Friends 4 Sale CD. Something about those two LPs make for perfect dark road trip background music.




i so agree re: Old Friends 4 Sale CD. Guess I'll need to get NEWS and take it for spin.
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Reply #20 posted 11/06/09 12:04am

thedance

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I have tried to listen to NEWS.... ZzZzZZZzZ.. so BORING.



who said: time 4 jazz 2 die. wink
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Reply #21 posted 11/06/09 12:06am

PurpleDiamond2
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thedance said:

sad

I have tried to listen to NEWS.... ZzZzZZZzZ.. so BORING.



who said: time 4 jazz 2 die. wink


well.....apparentely..... lol
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Reply #22 posted 11/06/09 3:47am

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chocolate1 said:

I used to play it in my old classroom when the kids were taking a test or working quietly. They would ask for EAST the most because of the guitar part.
I like it when I just want mellow background music. music



East is probably my favorite track on this album too.. biggrin
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Reply #23 posted 11/06/09 4:36am

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I love it. East is my favorite track - that guitar part smack dab in the middle reminds me of my youth. It's Deep Purple and Edgar Winter rolled into one.

This is the disc I usually go to when I'm headed home from an evening rehearsal. It helps me wind down, so I can get to sleep a little quicker when I get home. cool
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Reply #24 posted 11/06/09 5:06am

LittleNicci

PurpleDiamond2009 said:



does anybody have or like this cd? i know its pretty unpopular here on the org but i want to know what you think of it do you think prince can play jazz music well or what?

i personally like the song North i think its nice nod or do you just absouletly despise this album? lol


I love it - its well chilled
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Reply #25 posted 11/06/09 5:07am

Efan

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I like it a lot. It's a nice album to put on when I need to concentrate on something else for an hour+ and want to have some music on to keep me going. "West" is my favorite.
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Reply #26 posted 11/06/09 7:23am

xlr8r

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Efan said:

"West" is my favorite.


Same here. It's serene. The beginning that is.
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Reply #27 posted 11/06/09 7:28am

Dayclear

I have it. I don't like it much and have only played it twice since it came out.
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Reply #28 posted 11/06/09 11:44am

Jakeasaurus

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fakir said:

It's an instrumental album:period!
Prince never claimed it was a jazz attempt...
I'd rather call it a mix of som' of this & som' of that!
Can't believe why some fans dissing the man for not being
a real jazz player.He is a musician...So he plays whatever
he wants to;and trust me he can can do that!
Funky is just the way he plays music.
NEWS is a good cd and let's not forget that it was nominated for the grammys(instrumental category)!!



why couldn't you just type 'some' ? taking the e out doesn't change the pronunciation whatsoever, so what was the point of typing it so weirdly?
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Reply #29 posted 11/07/09 11:40am

Riera

I was thinking about buying this from RPM, is it an instrumental album?
Just smoke my cigarette and hush
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