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Reply #30 posted 11/06/09 3:37pm

JayJai

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nyse said:

it's like riding a bike he will never loose it...even if prince chooses more r&B, jazz, or rock sounding stuff for his albums...the funk allways comes out in his live stuff

razz
[Edited 11/6/09 14:27pm]

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Reply #31 posted 11/06/09 3:39pm

ernestsewell

PurpleLove7 said:

ernestsewell said:

He's not only lost it, he's surgically removed it from most of his past songs when he plays them live.


& what, may I ask do "you" know about Funk in the 1st place, hmmm ... wink

What do YOU know about it? I'm a musician. Are you? Do YOU play music?

Better yet.....are your ears unclogged to hear how Prince's old songs now sound plastic and bland?
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Reply #32 posted 11/06/09 4:34pm

lezama

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PFunk wasn't released all that long ago.. anyone who doubts that he still has it needs to go listen to that again.
Change it one more time..
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Reply #33 posted 11/06/09 4:50pm

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Handcuffs said:

Having experienced some of the funkiest trax by prince such as
Lady Cab Driver, DMSR, Gett Off, Sexy MF, Head, Let's Work, Head, Erotic City,
All The Critics Love U In New York, Automatic, Controversy, America, Feel U Up,
Irresistible Bitch, Mountains, AnotherLover, The Black Album, Exodus,
Housequake, Lalala Hehehee, Shockadelica,We Can Funk etc
Now to my question

Has PRINCE Lost the funk? As we know prince is a funk fiend, Prince main influence are funk musicians funkadelic parliament sly stone Miles Davis EW&F etc.

Should he deliver a killer double futurefunk album with no james brown influences?
[Edited 11/6/09 11:32am]


i don't know who you are and i'm not trying to offend you but prince was and is one the funkiest there is. i was listening to mplsound in the shower earlier and couldn't stop grooving. that shit is fonky, no matter what other people might say.

it just seems like people are looking for things to criticize about prince on the org these days.
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Reply #34 posted 11/06/09 4:55pm

ronnwinter

Ok...First of all, if youre Prince, how do you make a funk album with NO James Brown influence. Thats like telling Kenny Wayne Shepard to make a Blues album with No Stevie Ray Vaughn influence.
Prince is still very much Funky in my opinion. To me, thats one thing that keeps him out of mainstream.(aside from other things like no major label, and the jazz stuff)
The only thing I think Prince has lost is inspiration. Until Rave, He was so sexually driven and filled with so much passion and lust that it really came through in his music, lyrics and performances. Yes, I know he is 51 now and all that stuff is in the past, but it still doesnt change the fact that most of what put Prince on the map is gone. He is still a great live performer, but when it comes to new music... the fire has gotten a little dim.
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Reply #35 posted 11/06/09 5:09pm

poetcorner61

Handcuffs said:

Having experienced some of the funkiest trax by prince such as
Lady Cab Driver, DMSR, Gett Off, Sexy MF, Head, Let's Work, Head, Erotic City,
All The Critics Love U In New York, Automatic, Controversy, America, Feel U Up,
Irresistible Bitch, Mountains, AnotherLover, The Black Album, Exodus,
Housequake, Lalala Hehehee, Shockadelica,We Can Funk etc
Now to my question

Has PRINCE Lost the funk? As we know prince is a funk fiend, Prince main influence are funk musicians funkadelic parliament sly stone Miles Davis EW&F etc.

Should he deliver a killer double futurefunk album with no james brown influences?
[Edited 11/6/09 11:32am]


As a Prince fan since the early 80s who stopped listening in the late 90s and has recently come back to hear what I've missed out on, I can definitely say No! Prince has not lost his FUNK! He has gotten deeper and jazzier...but that was a pleasant surprise! I hope he continues his jazz/funk... He said recently he will keep touring as long as he looks "this way" and that retirement is not in his vocabulary... When he gets old, he can still play jazz/funk until the day he dies...and not have to do old Rock posturing like the Stones! He has another place to go...and fans who want to hear it! Jazz/funk all the way, Prince!
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Reply #36 posted 11/06/09 5:38pm

ronnwinter

poetcorner61 said:

Handcuffs said:

Having experienced some of the funkiest trax by prince such as
Lady Cab Driver, DMSR, Gett Off, Sexy MF, Head, Let's Work, Head, Erotic City,
All The Critics Love U In New York, Automatic, Controversy, America, Feel U Up,
Irresistible Bitch, Mountains, AnotherLover, The Black Album, Exodus,
Housequake, Lalala Hehehee, Shockadelica,We Can Funk etc
Now to my question

Has PRINCE Lost the funk? As we know prince is a funk fiend, Prince main influence are funk musicians funkadelic parliament sly stone Miles Davis EW&F etc.

Should he deliver a killer double futurefunk album with no james brown influences?
[Edited 11/6/09 11:32am]


As a Prince fan since the early 80s who stopped listening in the late 90s and has recently come back to hear what I've missed out on, I can definitely say No! Prince has not lost his FUNK! He has gotten deeper and jazzier...but that was a pleasant surprise! I hope he continues his jazz/funk... He said recently he will keep touring as long as he looks "this way" and that retirement is not in his vocabulary... When he gets old, he can still play jazz/funk until the day he dies...and not have to do old Rock posturing like the Stones! He has another place to go...and fans who want to hear it! Jazz/funk all the way, Prince!
cool

Well Im sure some Prince fans want to hear it, and thats great...BUT the vast majority do not. The sales of The Rainbow Children, and N.E.W.S prove that.
Im a music lover..I love some Jazz, I really love some blues...but if he goes that direction, he will be getting further and further away from his main fan base. And at this point in his career, I dont think thats a wise move.
Could you imagine going to the Staples Center, and its packed out with 40,000 fans. Then he embarks upon a 2 hour concert of Rainbow Children music with only a coulple of hits in the mix? I would seriously consider walking out after about 45 minutes of that.
Prince needs to rock. Ive said this before...when does Prince get his biggest, best and loudest reactions? After he rocks!
Prince and the Stones are quite different. They have lived a rough life full of alcohol and drugs, and it shows. they look HORRIBLE! Mick can strum a few chords on a guitar, but other than than he just does his strutting rooster impersonation and sings/mumbles the lyrics. Prince still looks amazing and can flat smoke a guitar and every other instrument on the stage. Not to mention the guy can actually sing good. So the Rolling stones comparison isnt a fair one.
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Reply #37 posted 11/06/09 5:40pm

npggirl77

ernestsewell said:

PurpleLove7 said:



& what, may I ask do "you" know about Funk in the 1st place, hmmm ... wink

What do YOU know about it? I'm a musician. Are you? Do YOU play music?


Interested...
You got some funk you can email me?
Would love to hear it.
-you ain't funky at all, you just a little ol' prude!
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Reply #38 posted 11/06/09 7:33pm

RakelRosalita7
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what's funny is that at the Paisley Concert I was dancing so much I started to smell funky and I blame the music lol razz
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Reply #39 posted 11/06/09 7:36pm

sweething

No, he'll be funky until... cool
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Reply #40 posted 11/06/09 7:52pm

poetcorner61

sweething said:

No, he'll be funky until... cool


Just listening to One Nite Alone Live again...and he ain't through!He's gona come back and perform again...and I hope he does more of the jazz/funk! It has me dancing again until I can't quit! Luv it all the way. So sure you're right--Prince will be FUNKY until...
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Reply #41 posted 11/06/09 8:30pm

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ernestsewell said:

PurpleLove7 said:



& what, may I ask do "you" know about Funk in the 1st place, hmmm ... wink

What do YOU know about it? I'm a musician. Are you? Do YOU play music?

Better yet.....are your ears unclogged to hear how Prince's old songs now sound plastic and bland?
I'm a musician and from "your" point of view, Prince is not funky, I would not agree with that comment. Prince is funk ... Period
Peace ... & Stay Funky ...

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Reply #42 posted 11/06/09 8:35pm

sweething

poetcorner61 said:

sweething said:

No, he'll be funky until... cool


Just listening to One Nite Alone Live again...and he ain't through!He's gona come back and perform again...and I hope he does more of the jazz/funk! It has me dancing again until I can't quit! Luv it all the way. So sure you're right--Prince will be FUNKY until...



oh, so totally. At paisley park I danced and danced and danced until I was drenched...sounds like funk to me. There isn't anything I've heard recently live or on Lotusflow3r.com that wasn't funky.
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Reply #43 posted 11/06/09 8:41pm

Purplestar88

Has PRINCE lost the funk?

No.
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Reply #44 posted 11/06/09 8:43pm

ButterscotchPi
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nyse said:

MajesticOne89 said:



spit

THAT thread is the first thing that came to mind when I saw this one lol

oh what a mess.....


the funk is all about the one....the accent on the one. james probably did it the best...but who cares what the funk "is"..it's what u can make it. and prince brought the funk 2 another level baby



(is not going to take the bait)
(but dammit it's so hard)
http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
y'all gone keep messin' around wit me and turn me back to the old me......
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Reply #45 posted 11/06/09 8:46pm

poetcorner61

PurpleLove7 said:

ernestsewell said:


What do YOU know about it? I'm a musician. Are you? Do YOU play music?

Better yet.....are your ears unclogged to hear how Prince's old songs now sound plastic and bland?
I'm a musician and from "your" point of view, Prince is not funky, I would not agree with that comment. Prince is funk ... Period



My son plays electric guitar and bass very well...he is tuned into what is current as well as old school..I'm going to ask him when he comes home from college, as a musician, what he thinks about Prince's current music, and believe me! my son is very picky and skeptical about music--whether old or new!Although his opinion never changes mine! cool
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Reply #46 posted 11/06/09 8:57pm

ernestsewell

PurpleLove7 said:

ernestsewell said:


What do YOU know about it? I'm a musician. Are you? Do YOU play music?

Better yet.....are your ears unclogged to hear how Prince's old songs now sound plastic and bland?
I'm a musician and from "your" point of view, Prince is not funky, I would not agree with that comment. Prince is funk ... Period

Well when what I typed is read and comprehended correctly, this would go so much easier.
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Reply #47 posted 11/06/09 9:55pm

poetcorner61

PurpleLove7 said:

ernestsewell said:

He's not only lost it, he's surgically removed it from most of his past songs when he plays them live.


& what, may I ask do "you" know about Funk in the 1st place, hmmm ... wink


Not only does he still have it but he makes me want to extend, extend, extend, the music just like in the last church I attended--The Church of St. John Coltrane--where artists used to jam for three to four hours, playing music, as a form of worship to God! That is how "Joy In Repetition" makes me feel and reminds me of--how you can worship thru the Bliss of Music! It Ain't Over! cool dancing jig
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Reply #48 posted 11/06/09 10:08pm

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JayJai said:

nyse said:

it's like riding a bike he will never loose it...even if prince chooses more r&B, jazz, or rock sounding stuff for his albums...the funk allways comes out in his live stuff

razz
[Edited 11/6/09 14:27pm]

nod

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Reply #49 posted 11/06/09 10:21pm

mushmackalenta

ernestsewell said:

PurpleLove7 said:



& what, may I ask do "you" know about Funk in the 1st place, hmmm ... wink

What do YOU know about it? I'm a musician. Are you? Do YOU play music?

Better yet.....are your ears unclogged to hear how Prince's old songs now sound plastic and bland?



Could we hear some of your funk songs and then compare them to Prince's.

Do you really think songs such as Black Sweat, FUNK, Feel Better Feel Good Feel Wonderful are not great funk songs.

Also I remember you saying in a previous post you had every show from the O2 21 nights. I went to a few of these shows and a couple of aftershows and I can ensure you he was funky as fuck.

If you think he's lost it why would you have a copy of all the shows.

I can see you sat in your pants listening to one show after another shaking your head and wimpering "he's lost it, He's lost it".
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Reply #50 posted 11/06/09 10:22pm

ernestsewell

mushmackalenta said:

ernestsewell said:


What do YOU know about it? I'm a musician. Are you? Do YOU play music?

Better yet.....are your ears unclogged to hear how Prince's old songs now sound plastic and bland?



Could we hear some of your funk songs and then compare them to Prince's.

Do you really think songs such as Black Sweat, FUNK, Feel Better Feel Good Feel Wonderful are not great funk songs.

Also I remember you saying in a previous post you had every show from the O2 21 nights. I went to a few of these shows and a couple of aftershows and I can ensure you he was funky as fuck.

If you think he's lost it why would you have a copy of all the shows.

I can see you sat in your pants listening to one show after another shaking your head and wimpering "he's lost it, He's lost it".

It's not a pissing contest between me and Prince, and I never said I was better or funkier than Prince. Don't make it into some bitch fight. I said Prince has lost a lot of his mojo w/ being funky. I stand by that.
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Reply #51 posted 11/06/09 10:37pm

mushmackalenta

I knew you would reply like a shot.

Your oh so preDicktable.

Come on let us hear your music.
[Edited 11/6/09 22:37pm]
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Reply #52 posted 11/06/09 10:41pm

eireboy34

Live not so much...records, defo.
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Reply #53 posted 11/07/09 1:38am

Handcuffs

Marrk said:

Handcuffs said:



Funk doesn't revolve around james brown


No, but funk as we know it only originated from him.

It certainly doesn't revolve around Prince, whom is merely 'funky'. I do not consider Prince to be a truly great funk artist at all.


I am not saying funk revolve around prince. I am a funkfiend & I do listen to james brown as well as others. If George Clinton can call prince a funk musician who are we to say he isn't.
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Reply #54 posted 11/07/09 1:42am

Handcuffs

lezama said:

PFunk wasn't released all that long ago.. anyone who doubts that he still has it needs to go listen to that again.


Totally agree with you Pfunk is a brilliant track. Now that's the type of funk
prince needs to create.
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Reply #55 posted 11/07/09 1:47am

Handcuffs

CerpinTaxt said:

Handcuffs said:

Having experienced some of the funkiest trax by prince such as
Lady Cab Driver, DMSR, Gett Off, Sexy MF, Head, Let's Work, Head, Erotic City,
All The Critics Love U In New York, Automatic, Controversy, America, Feel U Up,
Irresistible Bitch, Mountains, AnotherLover, The Black Album, Exodus,
Housequake, Lalala Hehehee, Shockadelica,We Can Funk etc
Now to my question

Has PRINCE Lost the funk? As we know prince is a funk fiend, Prince main influence are funk musicians funkadelic parliament sly stone Miles Davis EW&F etc.

Should he deliver a killer double futurefunk album with no james brown influences?
[Edited 11/6/09 11:32am]





i don't know who you are and i'm not trying to offend you but prince was and is one the funkiest there is. i was listening to mplsound in the shower earlier and couldn't stop grooving. that shit is fonky, no matter what other people might say.

it just seems like people are looking for things to criticize about prince on the org these days.


I ain't criticizing prince I asked has prince lost the funk because his old work was more funkier. Take blacksweat for instance a brilliant track but the prince in the 80's would've given an extended version which would've been even funkier. Now I hope my critics understand this.
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Reply #56 posted 11/07/09 1:51am

Handcuffs

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Ok...First of all, if youre Prince, how do you make a funk album with NO James Brown influence. Thats like telling Kenny Wayne Shepard to make a Blues album with No Stevie Ray Vaughn influence.
Prince is still very much Funky in my opinion. To me, thats one thing that keeps him out of mainstream.(aside from other things like no major label, and the jazz stuff)
The only thing I think Prince has lost is inspiration. Until Rave, He was so sexually driven and filled with so much passion and lust that it really came through in his music, lyrics and performances. Yes, I know he is 51 now and all that stuff is in the past, but it still doesnt change the fact that most of what put Prince on the map is gone. He is still a great live performer, but when it comes to new music... the fire has gotten a little dim.


I take the james brown comment back. cool.
erotic city is a funk tack without james brown influence.
kiss, sexy mf is james brown influence.
The reason I said no james brown influence was I want more of miles herbie sly p-funk influence album and not another get on the boat.
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Reply #57 posted 11/07/09 1:59am

Handcuffs

ButterscotchPimp said:

(is going to try REALLY REALLY hard to not go down this road again)
(last time it ended up being a 20+ page thread, and nothing got accomplished)
(most people in here don't know what "funk" is)
(just walk away, man. just walk away)


You tell me what funk is then. funk
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Reply #58 posted 11/07/09 2:24am

LinnLM1

ernestsewell said:

He's not only lost it, he's surgically removed it from most of his past songs when he plays them live.


Totally agree. He's replaced the funk music with Las Vegas music.
the music knows what your motives are when you are making it

listen to The Replacements - its good for the soul
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Reply #59 posted 11/07/09 4:59am

Handcuffs

MajesticOne89 said:

ButterscotchPimp said:

(is going to try REALLY REALLY hard to not go down this road again)
(last time it ended up being a 20+ page thread, and nothing got accomplished)
(most people in here don't know what "funk" is)
(just walk away, man. just walk away)


spit

THAT thread is the first thing that came to mind when I saw this one lol

oh what a mess.....


Could you provide me with the link to That thread. Please! I am interested in That Thread.
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