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Thread started 10/30/09 7:15pm

prodigalfan

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TMBGIW

Is it me or does part of this song sound similar to the song "I;ll Be Good to Ya.
"Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack
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Reply #1 posted 10/30/09 7:17pm

nurseV

I don't hear it eek
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Reply #2 posted 10/30/09 7:18pm

prodigalfan

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The opening notes sound similar to the TMBGIW

"Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack
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Reply #3 posted 10/30/09 7:20pm

nurseV

I'm not really in a YouTube mood-is it the same as Quincy's song?
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Reply #4 posted 10/30/09 7:51pm

FunkyDissCo

All i can say is that the Johnsons were some bad motherfuckers and I'll Be... is one of their classic jamz. Really nice tune.

On the other hand, TMBGIW is definitely the worst piece of crap Prince has EVER laid a hand on...

And NONONONONONONONONONONONONONO, there is not even a millisecond of a similarity..
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Reply #5 posted 10/30/09 9:14pm

ernestsewell

FunkyDissCo said:

All i can say is that the Johnsons were some bad motherfuckers and I'll Be... is one of their classic jamz. Really nice tune.

On the other hand, TMBGIW is definitely the worst piece of crap Prince has EVER laid a hand on...

And NONONONONONONONONONONONONONO, there is not even a millisecond of a similarity..


I can see where someone could hear a second's worth of similarity, but overall, no.

And TMBGITW is one of Prince's best ballads 8 or 10 years to that point.
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Reply #6 posted 10/30/09 9:25pm

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FunkyDissCo said:

All i can say is that the Johnsons were some bad motherfuckers and I'll Be... is one of their classic jamz. Really nice tune.

On the other hand, TMBGIW is definitely the worst piece of crap Prince has EVER laid a hand on...

And NONONONONONONONONONONONONONO, there is not even a millisecond of a similarity..



I wouldn't say the worst but it's definitely not one of my faves @ all. In fact to me it's aweful in TGE album but whatever. I actually like some of the mixes of it but the falsetto & the music just doesn't hit me like the rest of that phenomenal album does. I'm glad he had success w/ it but the album version I thought sucked a bug zick..
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Reply #7 posted 10/30/09 9:30pm

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nurseV said:

I'm not really in a YouTube mood-is it the same as Quincy's song?


Not sure of Quincy's version. This is by Brother's Johnson. I only know of 1 version and they did work with Quincy. maybe this is the same song.

And the opening notes of both songs are the same or very similar chords/notes.
"Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack
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Reply #8 posted 10/30/09 10:57pm

ernestsewell

prodigalfan said:

nurseV said:

I'm not really in a YouTube mood-is it the same as Quincy's song?


Not sure of Quincy's version. This is by Brother's Johnson. I only know of 1 version and they did work with Quincy. maybe this is the same song.

And the opening notes of both songs are the same or very similar chords/notes.

It is the same song, I believe.

Quincy did one with Ray Charles and Chaka Khan. Here it is: http://www.dailymotion.co...rles_music

Here's Chaka singing it live
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Reply #9 posted 10/30/09 11:05pm

prodigalfan

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ernestsewell said:

prodigalfan said:



Not sure of Quincy's version. This is by Brother's Johnson. I only know of 1 version and they did work with Quincy. maybe this is the same song.

And the opening notes of both songs are the same or very similar chords/notes.

It is the same song, I believe.

Quincy did one with Ray Charles and Chaka Khan. Here it is: http://www.dailymotion.co...rles_music

Here's Chaka singing it live



Ray Charles' vesion... that man had some style and substance even in his later years. He still had that swagger and swing in his voice and sing. I like this version... and I don't ever remember hearing this one before.
"Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack
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Reply #10 posted 10/30/09 11:08pm

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Ray charles:

"I want to give it to you, with credit cards! Visa! -- turn my pants pockets upside down"

yep, I really liked his style. cool
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Reply #11 posted 10/30/09 11:12pm

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Chaka in this live perfomrance looks and sound like she was tore up!

But she still has a great voice. you HAD to have a good voice to back up Chaka Khan!
"Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack
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Reply #12 posted 10/30/09 11:20pm

ernestsewell

prodigalfan said:

Ray Charles' vesion... that man had some style and substance even in his later years. He still had that swagger and swing in his voice and sing. I like this version... and I don't ever remember hearing this one before.

The Ray/Chaka version was all over the radio when Q came out with that album. Tevin Campbell was on it as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w..._the_Block

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Reply #13 posted 10/31/09 7:28am

nurseV

Since it is the same song-I still don't hear it lol Sorry Prodigal wink
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Reply #14 posted 10/31/09 7:29am

Tame

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Love these guys. I don't hear the comparison...I Love this song, "I'll be good 2 ya." and 4 what it's worth I love Vanessa Williams version of it too. cool
"The Lion Sleeps Tonight...
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Reply #15 posted 10/31/09 7:45am

Dave1992

The next one to sue Prince over his perfect hit. Those two olive-eaters went down in torment... lol
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Reply #16 posted 10/31/09 7:51am

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ernestsewell said:

prodigalfan said:

Ray Charles' vesion... that man had some style and substance even in his later years. He still had that swagger and swing in his voice and sing. I like this version... and I don't ever remember hearing this one before.

The Ray/Chaka version was all over the radio when Q came out with that album. Tevin Campbell was on it as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w..._the_Block




Sheila E too, no ??
"open your heart, open your mind
A train is leaving all day..."
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Reply #17 posted 10/31/09 10:03am

ernestsewell

yankem said:

ernestsewell said:


The Ray/Chaka version was all over the radio when Q came out with that album. Tevin Campbell was on it as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w..._the_Block




Sheila E too, no ??

Yes, as well as Prince listed on two tracks, "One Man Woman", and "Wee B. Dooinit (Acapella Party by the Human Bean Band)".

There's a TON of people on this record from Prince, Herbie Hancock, Glen Ballard, Sheila, Kool Moe D, Melle Mel, Al B. Sure!, .....the list runs on and on.

I found this for reference of guests:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w...k#Overview
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Reply #18 posted 10/31/09 4:59pm

FunkyDissCo

Hm, but that is Ian Prince, right?
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Reply #19 posted 10/31/09 6:02pm

peter430044

I hear what you mean but it's a very distant similarity.
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Reply #20 posted 10/31/09 6:27pm

RakelRosalita7
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How could anyone not totally LOVE this song?
It's in my top 5, I always get sad tho cause I think sometimes I am not pretty enough for Prince
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Reply #21 posted 10/31/09 6:32pm

Vendetta1

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How could anyone not totally LOVE this song?
It's in my top 5, I always get sad tho cause I think sometimes I am not pretty enough for Prince
Easy because people have different tastes. I absolutely hate this song.
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Reply #22 posted 10/31/09 7:03pm

peter430044

RakelRosalita729 said:

How could anyone not totally LOVE this song?
It's in my top 5, I always get sad tho cause I think sometimes I am not pretty enough for Prince


You are really pretty for someone, that's what counts!
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Reply #23 posted 10/31/09 8:14pm

ernestsewell

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yankem said:




Sheila E too, no ??

Yes, as well as Prince listed on two tracks, "One Man Woman", and "Wee B. Dooinit (Acapella Party by the Human Bean Band)".

There's a TON of people on this record from Prince, Herbie Hancock, Glen Ballard, Sheila, Kool Moe D, Melle Mel, Al B. Sure!, .....the list runs on and on.

I found this for reference of guests:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w...k#Overview

Is it? I forget. Probably is.
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Reply #24 posted 10/31/09 9:04pm

yankem

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ernestsewell said:

ernestsewell said:


Yes, as well as Prince listed on two tracks, "One Man Woman", and "Wee B. Dooinit (Acapella Party by the Human Bean Band)".

There's a TON of people on this record from Prince, Herbie Hancock, Glen Ballard, Sheila, Kool Moe D, Melle Mel, Al B. Sure!, .....the list runs on and on.

I found this for reference of guests:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w...k#Overview

Is it? I forget. Probably is.


Yes, Prince was not on the album (I don't think Quincy and him are very fond of each others...), it was Ian Prince.
"open your heart, open your mind
A train is leaving all day..."
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Reply #25 posted 10/31/09 9:22pm

ernestsewell

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I don't think Quincy and him are very fond of each other

There's no evidence to support that. Prince and Quincy met at least 2 or 3 times, talked, and Q even allowed Prince to contribute a song to the We Are The World album. I can't imagine Q being nasty w/ anyone in the business. He loves musicians, and their quirkiness, and knows how to pull it out of them and work it.
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Reply #26 posted 10/31/09 11:31pm

johnart

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I heard this at the pizza shop today. biggrin
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Reply #27 posted 11/01/09 6:10am

yankem

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ernestsewell said:

yankem said:

I don't think Quincy and him are very fond of each other

There's no evidence to support that. Prince and Quincy met at least 2 or 3 times, talked, and Q even allowed Prince to contribute a song to the We Are The World album. I can't imagine Q being nasty w/ anyone in the business. He loves musicians, and their quirkiness, and knows how to pull it out of them and work it.


I have an interview of Q for a french magazine from the 80's (I think) in which he seems not particularly in love with our man, I'll try to put my hand on it.
Plus, I do remember when Prince was in a group of people who were singing "We are the world" in a tv show, (the 90's), and he didn't want to sing, it was obvious as he was in front, Q handed him the mike (to make him sing) and Prince replied by handing his lollipop to Q, not exactly a love story...
It's a pity as I enjoy both of them...
"open your heart, open your mind
A train is leaving all day..."
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Reply #28 posted 11/01/09 7:01am

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ernestsewell said:

yankem said:

I don't think Quincy and him are very fond of each other

There's no evidence to support that. Prince and Quincy met at least 2 or 3 times, talked, and Q even allowed Prince to contribute a song to the We Are The World album. I can't imagine Q being nasty w/ anyone in the business. He loves musicians, and their quirkiness, and knows how to pull it out of them and work it.


Got it !!! Excuse in advance my poor translation... It's from a french magazine called Best.During the Bad tour era :

Journalist :- You have one of the widest knowledge of the contemporary music, from an artistic point of view, can you compare Prince and Michael ?
Quincy :- No, that's very difficult.
J -Many people say that Prince is more adventurous, that he has a more innovator side...
Q- Michael can also be very progressive. A song like "Baby be mine" is close to John Coltrane, with a mix of jazz, rhythm and blues...I believe Michael to be more melodious than Prince. Prince emphasises more on the rhythmic combinations and is maybe more risky on the emotionnal level, in particular when he's talking about sex, we know that Michael would never think of doing something like that.
J- There is nevertheless a big difference : Prince produces his albums alone.
Q- So what ? Why is it important ? Frankly,does the audience gives a shit about the producer ?
J- I think that Michael's career would have been different if you, the producer, hadn't think of giving the guitar solo on "Beat it" to Eddie Van Halen. I consider this as one of the cleverest "coup" in history. It's this detail that gave him his legitimacy to the rock audience.
Q- Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to underestimate my credits. But only the results are importants and they will always be. Would the destiny of a record be different because it had been played, produced, arranged and the songs written by one man alone ? Success is not created by this addition. Frank Sinatra did never composed one of his songs and he remains the biggest singer in history.
J-Yes, after Elvis.
Q- Elvis did not compose either. According to me, Prince makes it an ego affair. He wants to play, compose. sing and produce because of his self vanity.
J- But he proves, for the best, that he is able to do it. In fact, it's you who add this pinch of unexpected in Michael's music, which is natural in Prince.
Q- Yes, that's right, We are two working together, that's why we sell twice more records than Prince !

Before, in the interview, he says that he was introduced to Prince during the Off the wall recording and that P was very young and that he met his dad during the 50's, when he was a jazz musician in Minneapolis (The father, not Q).
He also talks about the infamous meeting of the two stars and says it seems to be less difficult to gather all the We are the world stars than these two... lol

I'm exhausted by my poor transation, gonna go to rest now !
I don't want to turn this tread into a MJ-Prince one, I'm talking here about Quincy and only Quincy.
"open your heart, open your mind
A train is leaving all day..."
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Reply #29 posted 11/01/09 7:11am

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peter430044 said:

RakelRosalita729 said:

How could anyone not totally LOVE this song?
It's in my top 5, I always get sad tho cause I think sometimes I am not pretty enough for Prince


You are really pretty for someone, that's what counts!


Thank you Per430044 I am confident that my looks are attractive but sometimes I wish life didn't stress me out so much that I feel all kindsa blah
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