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Thread started 10/17/09 10:23pm

JarviusLovesex
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Why Did Prince Music From The 90's Lose The Output From The 80's

I know why but I like hearing different people answers because I found out more.

Why did "TMBGITW" come out like 2 years proir to The Gold Experience release? Why wasn't that album talked about muched?

And why did so many people hate "Come".
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Reply #1 posted 10/17/09 11:01pm

ernestsewell

Your title doesn't make sense. What about 90's music is loose?
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Reply #2 posted 10/17/09 11:06pm

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ernestsewell said:

Your title doesn't make sense. What about 90's music is loose?


sorry meant lose lol
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Reply #3 posted 10/17/09 11:28pm

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if u know the answer whats the use of making a thread about it...
cause u like to hear different opinions...maybe. IDK...

But If u realy do know the answer ...school me ...I want 2 know...
I'll tell u if I agree or not
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Reply #4 posted 10/17/09 11:30pm

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nyse said:

if u know the answer whats the use of making a thread about it...
cause u like to hear different opinions...maybe. IDK...

But If u realy do know the answer ...school me ...I want 2 know...
I'll tell u if I agree or not


its more of an opinion
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Reply #5 posted 10/17/09 11:39pm

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JarviusLovesexy said:

nyse said:

if u know the answer whats the use of making a thread about it...
cause u like to hear different opinions...maybe. IDK...

But If u realy do know the answer ...school me ...I want 2 know...
I'll tell u if I agree or not


its more of an opinion


i'm curious of ur opinion.
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Reply #6 posted 10/17/09 11:52pm

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nyse said:

JarviusLovesexy said:



its more of an opinion


i'm curious of ur opinion.


I think mainly because of promotion,he should've toured the US for D&P.

His image got to freaky looking.
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Reply #7 posted 10/18/09 12:00am

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I do think thats tru...but I believe the music industry started 2 change...
And Prince was not hotnews any more...

In the 80's Prince was risque and controversial...But with the coming of
NWA and gangster rap...Prince was not the #1 bad ass on the scene any more.

StrAIGHT out of compton made prince's darling nikki look like a love song..lol.


Alsoprince been around for over ten years....you cant exspect a artist to carry
the same vigor toward a mainstream audience like that...Elvis, michael and james
could not do that either
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Reply #8 posted 10/18/09 12:15am

PurpleDiamond2
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nyse said:

I do think thats tru...but I believe the music industry started 2 change...
And Prince was not hotnews any more...

In the 80's Prince was risque and controversial...But with the coming of
NWA and gangster rap...Prince was not the #1 bad ass on the scene any more.

StrAIGHT out of compton made prince's darling nikki look like a love song..lol.


Alsoprince been around for over ten years....you cant exspect a artist to carry
the same vigor toward a mainstream audience like that...Elvis, michael and james
could not do that either


nod

and its kinda funny how MJ was still revelent to the scene despite the raise of gangsta rap lol i wonder what happened?? lol
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Reply #9 posted 10/18/09 12:17am

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Prince didn't lose output in the 90s. He recorded and released music at as much a feverish pace as he did in the 80s.

Remember, we got prince, COme, Gold, Emancipation, 3 NPG albums, Kamasucktra, The Truth, Crystal Ball, and many NPG Music club/L41A tracks.


Diamonds & Pearls was a big success, and prince sold reasonably well.
But by the time Prince had reached the Symbol album, he had already fired anyone who dared dissagree with him or actually try to 'manage' his career. He was surrounded by 'yes' men, save for one thing... Warners.

He failed to garner the backing of WB, and even worse, went to war with them. Not even MJ with his vast resources could win a dispute with Sony--Prince certainly wasn't going to stand a chance against WB.

I think his output after 1992 became spotty because he was remarkably unfocused. The guy was trying to be a businessman (a dreadful one) AND an artist (a really talented one).




As far as your question about COME and why people hated it. Well, I don't hate it, but I don't care for it either.

Look, Prince didn't care for the album. He recorded it side-by-side with The Gold Experience and the plan was to released COME as a "Prince" album, and Gold as a " prince " album, whereby Gold would sound obviously better.

Even in an interview Prince gave during that period, he had a reporter sit with him and preview the album (at that time Rippopgodazippa was still in the Gold Exp. configuration), and the reporter stated that Prince was impatient with 'COME', skipping tracks and abruptly ending tracks during the preview. But when they got to TGE, Prince was doing air guiltar and singing along.

This to me is an indication that the best tracks during the recording session were planned for TGE. And COME was deliberately 'subdued' to make it look boring in comparison.


The most ironic thing is that COME is actually stronger than most of the material Prince released since he changed his name back to Prince and was free to record and release whatever the hell he wanted free of contractual obligations. lol
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Reply #10 posted 10/18/09 12:20am

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Prince was also...Remember D&P was his biggest selling album since Purple rain.

But compare to compare the relativity of Thriller to dangerous
or Purple rain to D&P...There is a vast difference


BTW...I love black cats...I own one
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Reply #11 posted 10/18/09 12:25am

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Imago said:

Prince didn't lose output in the 90s. He recorded and released music at as much a feverish pace as he did in the 80s.

Remember, we got prince, COme, Gold, Emancipation, 3 NPG albums, Kamasucktra, The Truth, Crystal Ball, and many NPG Music club/L41A tracks.


Diamonds & Pearls was a big success, and prince sold reasonably well.
But by the time Prince had reached the Symbol album, he had already fired anyone who dared dissagree with him or actually try to 'manage' his career. He was surrounded by 'yes' men, save for one thing... Warners.

He failed to garner the backing of WB, and even worse, went to war with them. Not even MJ with his vast resources could win a dispute with Sony--Prince certainly wasn't going to stand a chance against WB.

I think his output after 1992 became spotty because he was remarkably unfocused. The guy was trying to be a businessman (a dreadful one) AND an artist (a really talented one).




As far as your question about COME and why people hated it. Well, I don't hate it, but I don't care for it either.

Look, Prince didn't care for the album. He recorded it side-by-side with The Gold Experience and the plan was to released COME as a "Prince" album, and Gold as a " prince " album, whereby Gold would sound obviously better.

Even in an interview Prince gave during that period, he had a reporter sit with him and preview the album (at that time Rippopgodazippa was still in the Gold Exp. configuration), and the reporter stated that Prince was impatient with 'COME', skipping tracks and abruptly ending tracks during the preview. But when they got to TGE, Prince was doing air guiltar and singing along.

This to me is an indication that the best tracks during the recording session were planned for TGE. And COME was deliberately 'subdued' to make it look boring in comparison.


The most ironic thing is that COME is actually stronger than most of the material Prince released since he changed his name back to Prince and was free to record and release whatever the hell he wanted free of contractual obligations. lol

great post...i agree with it all...except the part where u said
come is better than every thing he did after he changed his name back..

I do not like come as much as...the rest of his material...come is not in my top 10 of P albums...but thats just opinion...ur facts are on point
prince
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Reply #12 posted 10/18/09 12:25am

PurpleDiamond2
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nyse said:

Prince was also...Remember D&P was his biggest selling album since Purple rain.

But compare to compare the relativity of Thriller to dangerous
or Purple rain to D&P...There is a vast difference


BTW...I love black cats...I own one


mushy
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Reply #13 posted 10/18/09 12:28am

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PurpleDiamond2009 said:

nyse said:

Prince was also...Remember D&P was his biggest selling album since Purple rain.

But compare to compare the relativity of Thriller to dangerous
or Purple rain to D&P...There is a vast difference


BTW...I love black cats...I own one


mushy

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Reply #14 posted 10/18/09 12:28am

Imago

nyse said:

Imago said:

Prince didn't lose output in the 90s. He recorded and released music at as much a feverish pace as he did in the 80s.

Remember, we got prince, COme, Gold, Emancipation, 3 NPG albums, Kamasucktra, The Truth, Crystal Ball, and many NPG Music club/L41A tracks.


Diamonds & Pearls was a big success, and prince sold reasonably well.
But by the time Prince had reached the Symbol album, he had already fired anyone who dared dissagree with him or actually try to 'manage' his career. He was surrounded by 'yes' men, save for one thing... Warners.

He failed to garner the backing of WB, and even worse, went to war with them. Not even MJ with his vast resources could win a dispute with Sony--Prince certainly wasn't going to stand a chance against WB.

I think his output after 1992 became spotty because he was remarkably unfocused. The guy was trying to be a businessman (a dreadful one) AND an artist (a really talented one).




As far as your question about COME and why people hated it. Well, I don't hate it, but I don't care for it either.

Look, Prince didn't care for the album. He recorded it side-by-side with The Gold Experience and the plan was to released COME as a "Prince" album, and Gold as a " prince " album, whereby Gold would sound obviously better.

Even in an interview Prince gave during that period, he had a reporter sit with him and preview the album (at that time Rippopgodazippa was still in the Gold Exp. configuration), and the reporter stated that Prince was impatient with 'COME', skipping tracks and abruptly ending tracks during the preview. But when they got to TGE, Prince was doing air guiltar and singing along.

This to me is an indication that the best tracks during the recording session were planned for TGE. And COME was deliberately 'subdued' to make it look boring in comparison.


The most ironic thing is that COME is actually stronger than most of the material Prince released since he changed his name back to Prince and was free to record and release whatever the hell he wanted free of contractual obligations. lol

great post...i agree with it all...except the part where u said
come is better than every thing he did after he changed his name back..

I do not like come as much as...the rest of his material...come is not in my top 10 of P albums...but thats just opinion...ur facts are on point
prince
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gotcha.

I do like 3121, lotusflow3r and MPLSound better than Come. Hell, I think I like Planet Earth more too.
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Reply #15 posted 10/18/09 12:30am

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If you read the org, your questions would already be answered.

http://prince.org/msg/7/318315

http://prince.org/msg/7/317254
Studies have shown the ass crack of the average Prince fan to be abnormally large. This explains the ease and frequency of their panties bunching up in it.
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Reply #16 posted 10/18/09 12:32am

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Imago said:


Hell, I think I like Planet Earth more too.


now thats my kind of prince fan highfive
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Reply #17 posted 10/18/09 1:16am

ernestsewell

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If you read the org, your questions would already be answered.

Oh look at you, suggesting he actually should be willing to do the work.
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Reply #18 posted 10/18/09 1:28am

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I expected, and I guess most fans did too, that Prince would release more albums with quality music, once he got free from Warner Bros.

Unfortunately that didn't happened,

Prince's great output was with WB, 1978 to 1995,

once he became a free artist the music got "outwatered", he lost his funky edge.

Of course becoming a Jehovah Witness didn't help either.

I still love some of the music, 1996 to 2009, but it's not as funky as it used to be.

just imo. wink sad
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