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Reply #210 posted 10/15/09 8:54pm

brightlight

I looked at the video and Prince was referring to gesture. I saw some photos of him and Bria at a basketball game and he was holding his pinkee finger out drinking something out of a cup may called it femenine.I really don't think
Prince meant it.I know he could be bull head and sometimes escape his responsibilities.And people we all know what they are.But liked someone said
Prince can't talk. Let's Love Prince Music Hope He Has Sense A Enough To Get
Back With His Old Band. biggrin biggrin biggrin Love people for the Character Love each
and live in peace. Love You Prince.Org. P.S Not To Offend The Band He Got Now.
But I hope to see Prince, Lisa, Wendy, Brown Mark,Bobby Z,Doctor Fink together
again until. Let's just enjoy. Thank You
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Reply #211 posted 10/15/09 9:29pm

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Christopher said:

this thread is delicious. and prince is not gay but i sense tranny tendencies


Prince is a Hermie.
You didn't hear it from me, but pass it on. lurking
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Reply #212 posted 10/15/09 9:43pm

Imago

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Reply #213 posted 10/15/09 9:47pm

johnart

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I just watched it.
I just can't bring myself to be offended by the gesture, coming from a man in sequins, 2 inches of Max Factor and heels.

I see where some might. Unfortunately he could've done the same expression when that song came out (perhaps right up until he became JW) and it be perfectly fitting and even appropriate. Back then I would've taken it to be expressive of the ignorance of the close-mindedness the song speaks about.

I guess I'll give the benefit of doubt.
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Reply #214 posted 10/15/09 9:52pm

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Imago said:

[Biggie gif]



oh lawd Dan disbelief
canada

Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture!
REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince
"I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben
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Reply #215 posted 10/15/09 9:57pm

Imago

luv4u said:

Imago said:

[Biggie gif]



oh lawd Dan disbelief

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Reply #216 posted 10/15/09 9:59pm

luv4u

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Imago said:

luv4u said:




oh lawd Dan disbelief

[Big ass pic]



canada

Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture!
REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince
"I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben
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Reply #217 posted 10/15/09 9:59pm

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Imago said:



not gay more like in the closet bisexual lol
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Reply #218 posted 10/15/09 10:00pm

PurpleDiamond2
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luv4u said:

Imago said:


[Big ass pic]





oo la la! love
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Reply #219 posted 10/15/09 10:15pm

johnart

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Now if he'd done THIS expression I would've been TOTALLY offended.

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Reply #220 posted 10/15/09 10:20pm

endiadj

I think people sometimes are a little too damn sensitive. It's like they look for minute stuff and blow it up to the size of mount rushmore. Everything's offensive nowadays.

I wish Prince would've flashed the bird sign, instead. Now that would've been something to talk about!
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Reply #221 posted 10/15/09 10:36pm

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endiadj said:

I think people sometimes are a little too damn sensitive. It's like they look for minute stuff and blow it up to the size of mount rushmore. Everything's offensive to nowadays.

I wish Prince would've flashed the bird sign, instead. Now that would've been something to talk about!


Then the JW's would've been up in arms.
That would've been SWEET!
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Reply #222 posted 10/16/09 12:09am

MacDaddy

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Secondly - No one is born gay. Homosexuality is a choice. Just like having sex in general is a choice. Just like abstaining from sex is a choice. Sex is not a pre-requisite for living. It is not essential to remain alive. It is not a vital life function like a beating heart. You can choose not to have sex. You can't choose not to be black or asian or hispanic. There are people who are not able to have sexual relations for health reasons. Their not having sex is not detrimental to their living long healthy fulfillng lives. It is not a need. It is a desire.


No offense but that’s a pretty ignorant statement. Can you please tell me where you got this information from? Of course it is NOT a choice. You're born that way. Can you control who you are attracted to physically?
And if it’s a choice, why are so many, many priests and clergy men and whatever they’re called, who preach the word of god caught in sex scandals where mostly young men were involved? Can they not choose to resist temptation?
Why would they choose a (hidden) gay lifestyle whilst working for the man above?

How come homosexuality is also very common in nature? How do you explain an animal preferring a mate from the same sex over one of the opposite sex?
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Reply #223 posted 10/16/09 12:26am

Spinlight

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yeah but lets be honest, most gays are very feminate lol. they all do that camp hand thing lol lol


I haven't replied to a post on P.org in a long, long, long time (think Planet Earth).

But I struggled to remember my password just to log in and tell you how shameful this comment is. NOT all gay people do "that camp hand thing" and it's annoying to have that sort of stereotype. This is where people get "that's gay" from which then bore the "no homo" slang we have today. Sorry, but get over it. There's oodles of effeminate (check the spelling, dawg) heterosexual men/women and plenty effeminate homosexual men/women. And everything in between.

Bringing my post back on topic, I understand what the OP is saying. However, I think Prince has long expressed (since the early 90s) his tolerance for gay people (rather than his former acceptance). In this day and age, I believe Prince looks down on a lot of different subcultures and homosexuals are among them, but I don't think he made the gesture to offend rather than to illuminate the preconception. He's saying HE was making gestures like this, HE was embodying this type of behavior and people immediately thought he was gay for it. His true opinion of homosexuality isn't really spoken on the song from 1981 nor this performance.

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Reply #224 posted 10/16/09 3:38am

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squirrelgrease said:[quote]http://www.newyorker.com/talk/2008/11/24/081124ta_talk_hoffman



SOUP WITH PRINCE
by Claire Hoffman

NOVEMBER 24, 2008

You started it so i'll finish ..... Here's how the New Yorker see's the world, and if your Gay and you think they care about Gay rights .... more fool you... lol

Then the story about Prince is as truefull as the picture below..... confused



Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
James Brown & Michael Jackson RIP, your music still lives with us!
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Reply #225 posted 10/16/09 4:08am

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Its possible hes bi not gay
Reasons hes a Hettie
1. Look at all the women hes linked with, it seems these bimbos all come to him
2. His overt heterosexual stance in his music, all of his songs are about women and a lot of 80s and 90s are about graphic sex commited on women
3. He seems to have been homophobic in the past
4. He always deny he s gay
5. Hes a member of a violently homophobic satanic cult church (The Jehovah Witness).
6. This latest shit (Making fun of gay stereotypes)
7. His growling disapproval of LisanWendy's lesbian relationship.

Reasons he may possibly be gay
1. He didn't marry until he was 37
2. Has no kids (Only the brainless Baby Gregory)
3. He hides behind the hate cult and closeted gays have been known to do this
4. His natural flamboyance, obsession with style and beauty
5. Gossip and his image by the masculine black community (Eg Jamie Foxx send ups and Rappers dissing him)
6. When your rich, you can keep anything a secret.
7. Hes possibly in denial and self hatred

So thats 7 for and 7 against which means he must be bi, or at least had sex with a guy once (I mean who jacks off a girl?)
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So what are u going 2 do? R u just gonna sit there and watch? I'm not gonna stop until the war is over. Its gonna take a long time
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Reply #226 posted 10/16/09 4:22am

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Imago said:


falloff falloff falloff falloff falloff falloff
evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol
falloff falloff falloff falloff falloff falloff
evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol



I can't believe this thread is still going over something so small.

... Oh wait, it's the org, I can believe it. dunce
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Reply #227 posted 10/16/09 4:23am

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pplrain said:

I know a lot of straight men who would be very angry if they were called gay or insinuated that they were gay or even came onto by a gay man.

Maybe Prince is like that. It doesn't mean he is homophobic

Such a reaction would actually be the very definition of homophobia.
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Reply #228 posted 10/16/09 4:27am

eelco

Huggiebear said:

Its possible hes bi not gay

Reasons he may possibly be gay

2. Has no kids (Only the brainless Baby Gregory)




shocked feeling ill
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Reply #229 posted 10/16/09 4:29am

eelco

NouveauDance said:

Imago said


I can't believe this thread is still going over something so small.

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It has switched subjects about 4 or 5 times already . I'll ask for it to be locked.
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Reply #230 posted 10/16/09 4:42am

lagantest

I am gay and i didnt find it offensive at all.
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Reply #231 posted 10/16/09 5:16am

piepie1976

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some people dont think that being gay is ok esp if their religion says that homosexuality is not natural or some might hate gay people just for the hell of hating gay people now that is not right and i dont think that should be tolerated

but if someones religion says that homosexuality is not ok its not hating gay people or being homophobic its just not liking their lifestyle just like if i had a cousin who was doing drugs and sleeping around with married men would i still love my cousin yes would i like her lifestyle no


That's still homophobia. It's just using the Bible to justify it. And people have used the Bible to justify many ugly things and they still do. Also, you've now compared being gay to racism, being a drug addict, and being a slut. Do you even realize how offensive that is?
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Reply #232 posted 10/16/09 5:48am

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lezama said:



WHAT AN ASSHOLE! Prince is making fun of parapalegics during the Dance 4 Me perfomance! Everyone knows that sitting down during a perfomance is derogatory!

I'm gonna go create a thread about this... mad



LOL...

You know they've taken this gesture a bit too far. Are gays really that sensitive?

From now on Prince needs to perform in a straight jacket so he does not offend anyone. neutral
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Reply #233 posted 10/16/09 5:58am

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NouveauDance said:

pplrain said:

I know a lot of straight men who would be very angry if they were called gay or insinuated that they were gay or even came onto by a gay man.

Maybe Prince is like that. It doesn't mean he is homophobic

Such a reaction would actually be the very definition of homophobia.



LOL, no, it means they are straight and want to keep it that way.
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Reply #234 posted 10/16/09 6:13am

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pplrain said:

NouveauDance said:


Such a reaction would actually be the very definition of homophobia.



LOL, no, it means they are straight and want to keep it that way.

You know having someone call you gay, or even a member of the same sex finding you attractive doesn't actually MAKE you gay, I mean, you know that right. hmm
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Reply #235 posted 10/16/09 6:14am

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The gesture he has had isn't an offense at all to gay community..Come on!! he's had always gestures..
This thread is a nonsense absolutely.
Not Prince to make fun about others or whatsoever...
The one who sees wrong is the one who's got a trouble.
We make our own way to heaven everyday
"The only Love there is, is the Love we make"
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Reply #236 posted 10/16/09 6:32am

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A man that attends all the fashion shows in Paris , wears those impossible outfits and puts on that much make up can´t be that much of an homophobe, can he?

sorry but the org is unbearably serious sometimes



nod I said something alike.


and about the org... sad thing is that I keep reading it lol
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Reply #237 posted 10/16/09 6:34am

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lets say yo ass was playin charades. The word U picked outta the hat was "gay". WTF gesture would YOU make to win.
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Reply #238 posted 10/16/09 6:35am

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NouveauDance said:

pplrain said:




LOL, no, it means they are straight and want to keep it that way.

You know having someone call you gay, or even a member of the same sex finding you attractive doesn't actually MAKE you gay, I mean, you know that right. hmm



Why are you taking what I have to say and going off on a tangent with it.

I know straight men who like being straight and this is just my observation. It has nothing to do with gays.
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Reply #239 posted 10/16/09 6:43am

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With his recent history (demanding Wendy and Lisa renounce their homosexuality, media comments against gay marriage, playing Bambi on the Ellen show, Jehovah's Witness doctrine etc) it just amplifies the intent of a gesture like this. I'd suggest it was done on purpose and reflects who he is these last ten years.
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