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Printablesquirrelgrease said: Wow. There are sure a lot of folks who don't like certain topics discussed, and actually seem upset about it. Interesting indeed.
LET's not go there, we might upset people even more.....! [Edited 10/15/09 14:26pm] | |
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Paris9748430 said: For fuck's sake. I can't BELEIVE people think this is a topic worthy of 6 fucking pages!!!
Have you people ever seen Prince live??? Have you people ever seen Prince perform Controversy live??? He's been using that gesture for YEARS!!! Does that make it right? Probably not. But to keep going on and on and on about a non issue like this makes me think that you people have nothing better to do with your lives than pick out small hand gestures. If he would've given the middle finger. Which is a much worse and offensive a hand gesture than what he did. NOBODY would give fuck!!! Prince is just a man, so stop nitpicking every fucking thing he does. Everything he says and every move he makes doesn't have to have a meaning!!! He could say something as simple as "I'm hungry", and there would be 10 posts all with 10 pages worth of discussion here into the deeper meaning and the hidden cryptic agenda in the phrase "I'm hungry". The major reason for the "6 fucking pages" is that many of us are offended by some of the unbelievably ignorant postings and are trying to express our feelings with some rebuttals. With having said that WE ALL have the right to our opinions and should be able to express them. | |
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eelco said: squirrelgrease said: Wow. There are sure a lot of folks who don't like certain topics discussed, and actually seem upset about it. Interesting indeed.
makes one wonder what that insecurity is based on.... oohhhh...they must all be closet fags!...is that what u're implying? | |
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BobGeorge909 said: eelco said: makes one wonder what that insecurity is based on.... oohhhh...they must all be closet fags!...is that what u're implying? No it wasn't | |
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I know a lot of straight men who would be very angry if they were called gay or insinuated that they were gay or even came onto by a gay man.
Maybe Prince is like that. It doesn't mean he is homophobic it just means that he is a heterosexual is tired of the gay references and wants to be recognized as a heterosexual. | |
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thanks2joniandu said: Paris9748430 said: For fuck's sake. I can't BELEIVE people think this is a topic worthy of 6 fucking pages!!!
Have you people ever seen Prince live??? Have you people ever seen Prince perform Controversy live??? He's been using that gesture for YEARS!!! Does that make it right? Probably not. But to keep going on and on and on about a non issue like this makes me think that you people have nothing better to do with your lives than pick out small hand gestures. If he would've given the middle finger. Which is a much worse and offensive a hand gesture than what he did. NOBODY would give fuck!!! Prince is just a man, so stop nitpicking every fucking thing he does. Everything he says and every move he makes doesn't have to have a meaning!!! He could say something as simple as "I'm hungry", and there would be 10 posts all with 10 pages worth of discussion here into the deeper meaning and the hidden cryptic agenda in the phrase "I'm hungry". The major reason for the "6 fucking pages" is that many of us are offended by some of the unbelievably ignorant postings and are trying to express our feelings with some rebuttals. With having said that WE ALL have the right to our opinions and should be able to express them. Then shouldn't Prince be allowed to express his, is what I think is the ROOT of the thread. | |
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luv4u said: Was the hand gesture intentional?
Of course. I seen him do the same hand gesture in other concerts while performing Controversy. In the O2 consert for example. I seen him do it before, ao yes it was intentional. Some people think I'm kinda cute
But that don't compute when it comes 2 Y-O-U. | |
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Browzer said: I'm quoting 90% of my non-prince listening friends and probably a lot of the general public:
Prince looks gay, he dresses gay, he walks gay, he dances gay, he sings gay in his falsetto. And yet he's a gay basher... not doing a good job in getting out his message then is he. He is a singer and is in the entertainment business. | |
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eelco said: BobGeorge909 said: oohhhh...they must all be closet fags!...is that what u're implying? No it wasn't my bad then. What were U implying? | |
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I'm Gay and it didn't phase me, I thought it was cute. At least he didn't grab his croch  | |
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matthewgrant said: thanks2joniandu said: There is nothing beautifully said about such ignorant comments. It's obvious you only view gay people as sexually charged individuals devoid of love and commitment. exactly! brightlight says they have gay friends too  Thank You One time I didn't have money to get a cab when one of my children got sick. The neighbor upstairs gave me 20.00 for the fare. She's gay and in her late 60's now how can't you not be freinds to her.All of my family are in church but they don't help at all.I love jesus because he help me to be centered. I don't know how Prince feels. But you can't judge because Jesus understand s.I'am young and I live on the Northside of Chicago (Uptown). [Edited 10/15/09 14:45pm] | |
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OldFriends4Sale said: This again coming from a man who wears make up and heals Entertainer and faith healer? Talented man. | |
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BobGeorge909 said: thanks2joniandu said: The major reason for the "6 fucking pages" is that many of us are offended by some of the unbelievably ignorant postings and are trying to express our feelings with some rebuttals. With having said that WE ALL have the right to our opinions and should be able to express them. Then shouldn't Prince be allowed to express his, is what I think is the ROOT of the thread. Absolutely! And for the record I don't think the gesture was done with malicious intent BUT it can be criticized if it's exacerbating a stereotype. That's the issue here. | |
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Oh, People, Please take a chill break. He's been doing this since the 80s and always when he's performed "Controversy" without malice or stereotyping. It just is what it is a hand gesture done by someone who uses his hands and body to relay his songs. Prince's Sarah | |
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pplrain said: I know a lot of straight men who would be very angry if they were called gay or insinuated that they were gay or even came onto by a gay man.
Maybe Prince is like that. It doesn't mean he is homophobic it just means that he is a heterosexual is tired of the gay references and wants to be recognized as a heterosexual. I think there is a lot of truth in your opinion and I thought the same thing when I saw the performance. The problem is he is exacerbating a stereotype at the expense of gay people.I think that's why some of us are offended. | |
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ernestsewell said: squirrelgrease said: When asked about his perspective on social issues—gay marriage, abortion—Prince tapped his Bible and said, “God came to earth and saw people sticking it wherever and doing it with whatever, and he just cleared it all out. He was, like, ‘Enough.’ ”
Let's also remember that the person who wrote that article was quickly discredited because they didn't tell the whole story. Even Prince came out and rebutted that part of it, and the interviewer finally told the rest of it. That doesn't take away from Prince's statement, but ..... In fact the exact opposite happened. Prince's people tried to discredit her through their "fam" mouthpiece, and her paper printed a follow up stating categorically that they stand by her and the story. In fact iirc the journalist actually expanded further on what was said, which in no way contradicted the original quote or version of events. Prince's people had no further comments on the matter. | |
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onthelowdown said: ernestsewell said: Let's also remember that the person who wrote that article was quickly discredited because they didn't tell the whole story. Even Prince came out and rebutted that part of it, and the interviewer finally told the rest of it. That doesn't take away from Prince's statement, but ..... In fact the exact opposite happened. Prince's people tried to discredit her through their "fam" mouthpiece, and her paper printed a follow up stating categorically that they stand by her and the story. In fact iirc the journalist actually expanded further on what was said, which in no way contradicted the original quote or version of events. Prince's people had no further comments on the matter. No I know. The whole thing should have been printed from the get go. I don't doubt Prince's sentiment was still there. But if you recall, even the regular media picked up on his anti-gay statement because of the brevity of the comment as it was printed. Prince is too vague anyway in his biblical references, and I take little stock in their truth because of that New World Translation he swears by. | |
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pplrain said: I know a lot of straight men who would be very angry if they were called gay or insinuated that they were gay or even came onto by a gay man.
Maybe Prince is like that. It doesn't mean he is homophobic it just means that he is a heterosexual is tired of the gay references and wants to be recognized as a heterosexual. Yes that IS homophobic. Being angry about being called gay or being hit on by a guy is most definitely homophobic. | |
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Prince could come straight out and say he hates gay people and some of his fans wouldn't care.
And I'll make some of you a deal: don't tell me what shouldn't offend me and I won't tell you what should. | |
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Deal!  | |
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PANDURITO said: Deal!  I have never told anyone what should offend them Pandurito. | |
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OK | |
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PANDURITO said: OK I haven't. And now if you could go follow someone else around, that would be awesome. | |
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Did it sound like I wasn't sincere? 
Doesn't OK mean I agree with you?  | |
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A man that attends all the fashion shows in Paris , wears those impossible outfits and puts on that much make up can´t be that much of an homophobe, can he?
sorry but the org is unbearably serious sometimes | |
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piepie1976 said: pplrain said: I know a lot of straight men who would be very angry if they were called gay or insinuated that they were gay or even came onto by a gay man.
Maybe Prince is like that. It doesn't mean he is homophobic it just means that he is a heterosexual is tired of the gay references and wants to be recognized as a heterosexual. Yes that IS homophobic. Being angry about being called gay or being hit on by a guy is most definitely homophobic. how is that homophobic? most people dont want to be called something that they are not its the same if i walked up to someone and called them racist I would expect them to get defensive and start their I'm not racist rant and some men may not want gay men hitting on them because of whatever reason they dont have to be nasty about they can just turn them down nicely or just say "oh no thank you" thats not being homophobic | |
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PurpleDiamond2009 said: piepie1976 said: Yes that IS homophobic. Being angry about being called gay or being hit on by a guy is most definitely homophobic. how is that homophobic? most people dont want to be called something that they are not its the same if i walked up to someone and called them racist I would expect them to get defensive and start their I'm not racist rant and some men may not want gay men hitting on them because of whatever reason they dont have to be nasty about they can just turn them down nicely or just say "oh no thank you" thats not being homophobic Being gay is not detestable, being a racist is. You shouldn't even put them in the same sentence. It's not about being mistaken for the wrong thing. It's the fear and anger about being thought of as gay. Because if it makes you angry, then it means u think there is something wrong with being gay. If you are NOT homophobic, u wouldnt become angry about being thought of as gay or by being hit on by someone of the same sex. Those who are not homophobes are able to blow it off and not become offended by it. Homophobia is just so ingrained in the culture, and especially in men, that people dont even recognize it. | |
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piepie1976 said: PurpleDiamond2009 said: how is that homophobic? most people dont want to be called something that they are not its the same if i walked up to someone and called them racist I would expect them to get defensive and start their I'm not racist rant and some men may not want gay men hitting on them because of whatever reason they dont have to be nasty about they can just turn them down nicely or just say "oh no thank you" thats not being homophobic Being gay is not detestable, being a racist is. You shouldn't even put them in the same sentence. It's not about being mistaken for the wrong thing. It's the fear and anger about being thought of as gay. Because if it makes you angry, then it means u think there is something wrong with being gay. If you are NOT homophobic, u wouldnt become angry about being thought of as gay or by being hit on by someone of the same sex. Those who are not homophobes are able to blow it off and not become offended by it. Homophobia is just so ingrained in the culture, and especially in men, that people dont even recognize it. some people dont think that being gay is ok esp if their religion says that homosexuality is not natural or some might hate gay people just for the hell of hating gay people now that is not right and i dont think that should be tolerated but if someones religion says that homosexuality is not ok its not hating gay people or being homophobic its just not liking their lifestyle just like if i had a cousin who was doing drugs and sleeping around with married men would i still love my cousin yes would i like her lifestyle no | |
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JesusFreak said: squirrelgrease said: Wanna bet? He has stated he has gay FRIENDS. More than that he is a man of God who leaves Him up to the judging. Those who are true followeres of God and abide by his rules love everyone. However they don't commend/support/agree with unGodly actions. Interracial couple denied marriage license in La. http://news. yahoo.com/ s/ap/20091015/ ap_on_re_ us/us_interracia l_rebuff "I'm not a racist. I just don't believe in mixing the races that way," Bardwell told the Associated Press on Thursday. "I have piles and piles of black friends. They come to my home, I marry them, they use my bathroom. I treat them just like everyone else." | |
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this thread is delicious. and prince is not gay but i sense tranny tendencies | |
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