eelco said:

Dude, chill out. Geezus.

toots said:

I've written a book about Prince as well and in mine he doesn't say that...

I don't own the book "Possessed" does that mean your right and i'm wrong...

MacDaddy said:

Let's not forget about the way we talk

LondonStyle said:

NEVER did I even say that seriously have u even read the book or even talk to them about cause appearently you don't know about it so lighten up dude. Just cause he didn't say it or mention it to you don't mean others especially Wendy and Lisa can't talk about it(which they have dropped hints on many occasions) I mentioened NOTHING about being right or wrong and many have pointed that out to you which you have failed to see or believed. You saying that even sounds childish imho( the I'm right your wrong bit)
[Edited 10/15/09 5:57am]

ernestsewell said:
BEING GAY IS NOT A PUNCHLINE! It's not "gay" when your car fucks up. It's not "gay" because you have to work late. "Gay" is not interchangeable with "stupid", or "silly" or "retarded"



It is if you're not gay urself. Dude people mis-use gay all the time just like the word retarded, how the fuck do u think God feels?(Keep in mind I'm not saying it's right but let's be real here) U're being over sensitive to a fucking hand gesture, but u're certainly allowed to act however u want & u've shown us- thanks.

toots said:

Yeah that's the problem ..... ....book or no book .....you know as much as me .....

Yeah Wendy & Lisa and that offical secrets act bill they signed with Prince.....

Hey and Wendy & Lisa has never said anything "sterotypical" Right ....

RumAndRaisin said:

I don't think most gays(men) are effeminate.
You just don't happen to know the ones that aren't because you assume they are straight.

being effeminate isn't about a sexual orientation anyway, there a lots of effeminate heterosexuals, not only that if you look at a lot of entertainers(INCLUDING PRINCE) especially in the rock n roll arena they style and mannerisms a lot of times are various degrees of effeminate style.

luv4u said:

most likely

that gesture has always been demeaning and equating gay men with sissies and being weak and like women

This again coming from a man who wears make up and heals

nosajd said:

I like this last line a lot! He's allowed to act however he wants but as soon as he's got an opinion/ feeling which is not yours you have to value it as being oversensitive

LondonStyle said:

There you go reading things into my post I NEVER said again nor am I the one laughing. YOU were the one who brought up in YOUR post that Prince hasn't said any bad thing about gay/lesbians ( go back to the original post) several of ur pointed it out and told u different correct? None of us said Wendy and Lisa never made a "stereotypical" remark about him which we know is highly untrue . Correct? Well why bother to divert this topic saying they never did and have a childish remark like I'm right your wrong bit going. Seriously YOU need to get the whole pic before can make judgement call like that imho its bad journalism. You only got Princes side(if that is in fact the case) and I'm sure he didn't talk about things he didn't want to now did he. Of course! Let's get real next time get others side of story who may of been there before making judgment calls. Btw I didn't read ur book so therefore I can't know what he did say or didn't say. Care to tell us the title so we may do a bit more research of ur such book? We may be able to compare who said what in the other books as well instead of you laughing.

First of all, this is getting to the P&R world kinda thing.




And, "political correctness here, political correctness there...!" This is getting so ridiculous even a liberal would start being politically incorrect just to provoke minds and raise discussion. This has nothing to do with "conservative or revolutionary", this has to do with wither being preposterous and fussy, or keeping a cool head and just relax.


If this doesn't get to you, think about humour. Satire and sarcasm of the own persona. Whether Prince did it to make fun of himself and his past (of which he clearly stands above now) or the intrusive lust for over-etreme "political correctness", we don't know. You don't know him, I don't know him. It is so possible he didn't even mean to make a special gesture.

Stop judging people, because that is being politically incorrect. If you feel like someone shouldn't do a certain gesture when talking/singing about homoseualty, don't do it.

eelco said:

Thats not the issue, the issue is whether you know what Prince's intention was in making a gesture most of the non-gay world wouldn't even know was offensive? And the fact remains you don't, and 99% of the world would never have even thought it.

toots said:

But this is the Prince.org, living by the half truth and nothing but the half truth so help me _ _ _ !

It helps us project our own "sterotypes" of what we think he is, or who he is!

Everyone see that questionmark in the title of this thread?

This thread is going down the slope of " I don't agree with you SO you are an ***hole for it"

Then again, it's the org, what did I expect?

LondonStyle said:

Avoiding the questions I see. So there is no book written about Prince by you? And no interview of Prince? I guess the half truth was only told in the book if that is the case.

ernestsewell said:

Gotta back U on this one

Causing a fuss over something as minor as this only furthers the stereotype that gay people are oversensitive pussy crybabies. Fact.

toots said:

That's the Answer to the Question ....well done....

Funny how we all sterotype Black/White/Straight or Gay.....

I know an Artist that wrote a song about that.....

luv4u said:

It is a 'slang' word used by 25 and under. It's it's a put down, I was in a dept store and was shocked by these 2 teen girls saying it about a sweater.

optimus said:

your not serious are u?

OldFriends4Sale said:

That's funny

Browzer said:

Yep...
Wendy & Lisa denouncing
"Long haired Faggot"
Morris & Jerome being sick after they kissed


plus OTT religious beliefs which I presume (and it is presume) has led him to that misguided belief that the bible says homosexuality is bad.

Odd really as Larry Fraham looks like the stereotypical gay porndtar

simonthetimes said:

That's the problem most of the time, people look for "in your face racism or homophobia" and a lot of it is not that way.

I'm a mixed race dude, and when I first started working where I do, In my office space, I would listen to music really low, you could hear that I was listening to music but not know what genre.

There is a coworker that would come in and gesture his ear like wanted to hear the music and then would start walking like a 70's soul brother with the neck moving back in forth and he tried that pimp walk.

That may not be 'racism' but it is ignorance and prejudice. Subtle not overt

I'm gay and that did NOT bother me. I used to do that when I acted out to "Controversy" so when I saw him do it, I laughed. It's not a big deal to me.

Why didn't he just go the whole hog and shout..

"OOOOHH MATRON, I'm free...Titter Yee Not!!!!"

RumAndRaisin said:

We also talk with a lisp, mince and dress better than you could ever dream of, sweetie.

Seriously, he's been doing the hand gesture during Controversy for over a decade, and suddenly folks are bringing it now? It wasn't offensive then, and it isn't offensive now. As has been pointed out already in the thread, it wasn't a "hello sailor" type of limp wrist, it was more a 50/50 hand gesture.

Prince can out-Queen anybody. His dress sense at the recent fashion shows prove this. There's nothing for anyone to be offended by.

purplecam said:

shhh.....you'll only get into trouble ..... .....run....hide in here....its safe place until .....they have left.....

Your breaking a stereotype that all gay people think the same

JayJai said:

When I was younger and when making fun of a gay person or calling a guy a sissy that hand gesture would be used, limp wrist, weak, and sadly it also shows a side of who we view women. A sissy is also a woman effeminate gay men are equated with women (actually any gay man no matter how butch is equated with being a woman) and it's a negative toward women as well

What did he do for straight. , the old pumping finger in the ringed finger gesture, the motor-boat....surely not the ol' Breast Squeeze gesture

RumAndRaisin said:

That's not true for all gays. I am not effeminate and most of my gay friends aren't either.