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The Truth I was listening to the truth moments ago and the thought entered how appearances can be deceiving but one thing about the truth is, that it is.
The truth is not something that you can deny, you can cover it up and act like it doesn't exist -- you can put lipstick on a pig, but its still just lipstick on a pig. Prince's song the truth--what is he trying to relate here? What if half the things ever said Turned out 2 be a lie... How will U know the Truth? If U were given all the answers And U stopped 2 wonder why But how will U know the Truth? Everybody's got a right to love Everybody's got a right to lie But the choice U make aint no piece of cake It aint no MF piece of pie Gotta (Gonna?) tell the truth y'all Gotta tell the truth Gotta tell the truth y'all Gotta tell the truth Gotta tell the truth y'all Gotta tell the truth If there was just one day That everybody tell the truth | |
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We'd all trade bank accounts and move to Neptune
 if you've gotta pay for things that you've done wrong I've gotta big bill coming at the end of the day- Gil Scott Heron
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soulyacolia said: We'd all trade bank accounts and move to Neptune
Interesting, please continue-- the introduction of $$ aligned with truth. | |
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Telling the truth is being a genuine person.
I find it easy to tell the truth because U cannot hide from it... I am someone that believes that lies weight your spirit and prevent your ascension process. Choosing to not care how you behave in the grand scheme of eternity is what sculpts you....Our flesh is born to rot...Our spirit is born to metamorphisize and soar with love's intention. Lies are an anchor.  "The Lion Sleeps Tonight... | |
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sweething said: soulyacolia said: We'd all trade bank accounts and move to Neptune
Interesting, please continue-- the introduction of $$ aligned with truth. I think Prince meant that if we all told the truth then money would be all but meaningless. I do not have any idea why the hell we would move to a place that would kill us? "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" |
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Tame said: Telling the truth is being a genuine person.
I find it easy to tell the truth because U cannot hide from it... I am someone that believes that lies weight your spirit and prevent your ascension process. Choosing to not care how you behave in the grand scheme of eternity is what sculpts you....Our flesh is born to rot...Our spirit is born to metamorphisize and soar with love's intention. Lies are an anchor. Absolutely beautiful sentiments, I agree. There's a certain buoyancy one feels when resting on the truth. | |
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OnlyNDaUsa said: sweething said: Interesting, please continue-- the introduction of $$ aligned with truth. I think Prince meant that if we all told the truth then money would be all but meaningless. I do not have any idea why the hell we would move to a place that would kill us? There's a new movie release dealing with this subject...The Invention of Lying. Basically the premise is: The film takes place in an alternate universe much like our own one, but where human beings are incapable of lying. Unfortunately, not only must they tell the truth but they are afflicted with TMI (too much information) syndrome. Ever told the truth even though you knew people didn't want to hear it? That kinda feels good too. What was the response? | |
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sweething said: There's a new movie release dealing with this subject...The Invention of Lying. Basically the premise is: The film takes place in an alternate universe much like our own one, but where human beings are incapable of lying. Unfortunately, not only must they tell the truth but they are afflicted with TMI (too much information) syndrome. Ever told the truth even though you knew people didn't want to hear it? That kinda feels good too. What was the response? Someone once asked me my opinion, at first I refused, she insisted. I warned her I would tell her and she may not like it but she would have to listen to everything I had to say. I did, she did not take it to well. She never asked me another question again. "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" |
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OnlyNDaUsa said: sweething said: There's a new movie release dealing with this subject...The Invention of Lying. Basically the premise is: The film takes place in an alternate universe much like our own one, but where human beings are incapable of lying. Unfortunately, not only must they tell the truth but they are afflicted with TMI (too much information) syndrome. Ever told the truth even though you knew people didn't want to hear it? That kinda feels good too. What was the response? Someone once asked me my opinion, at first I refused, she insisted. I warned her I would tell her and she may not like it but she would have to listen to everything I had to say. I did, she did not take it to well. She never asked me another question again. That's too bad (I think?) an opportunity lost to discuss? What happened with her - did you loose touch with her? | |
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sweething said: That's too bad (I think?) an opportunity lost to discuss? What happened with her - did you loose touch with her? She was a mess, she was totaly wrong, and she wanted me to tell her it was okay. I tried to avoid it, I warned her. I have not seen her in over a year I think she moved. "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" |
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OnlyNDaUsa said: sweething said: That's too bad (I think?) an opportunity lost to discuss? What happened with her - did you loose touch with her? She was a mess, she was totaly wrong, and she wanted me to tell her it was okay. I tried to avoid it, I warned her. I have not seen her in over a year I think she moved. In one instance I told the truth, I'm glad I did, but I paid for it dearly--in a sense. Although the recipient didn't want to hear it - they knew it was true, hopefully when faced with a similar situation they will recall our discussion and recognize the truth was told and try to make things better. But yeah, at first, the recipient wanted to basically kill me (figurative). Other times I've been quite honest and the person was very receptive and even embraced the honesty. I guess its all about where a pereson's head is at on any given day--huh?  [Edited 10/13/09 19:30pm] | |
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sweething said: I was listening to the truth moments ago and the thought entered how appearances can be deceiving but one thing about the truth is, that it is.
The truth is not something that you can deny, you can cover it up and act like it doesn't exist -- you can put lipstick on a pig, but its still just lipstick on a pig. Prince's song the truth--what is he trying to relate here? What if half the things ever said Turned out 2 be a lie... >>>>>Our "truth" may not be our reality. And what if 1/2 the things you ever learned you found out were wrong? How will U know the Truth? If U were given all the answers And U stopped 2 wonder why But how will U know the Truth? >>>>>Is he saying that the answers may not be the truth? Just the purported truth? Everybody's got a right to love Everybody's got a right to lie But the choice U make aint no piece of cake It aint no MF piece of pie >>>>>Agreed, I think. So you can live with a lie or seek the truth swallow it whole which sometimes ain't no piece of cake? Gotta (Gonna?) tell the truth y'all Gotta tell the truth Gotta tell the truth y'all Gotta tell the truth Gotta tell the truth y'all Gotta tell the truth If there was just one day That everybody tell the truth >>>>>Would this be a good idea or would we war with each other? Would we war with each other and then resolve our conflicts and live in peace? Your thoughts? | |
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sweething said: I was listening to the truth moments ago and the thought entered how appearances can be deceiving but one thing about the truth is, that it is.
The truth is not something that you can deny, you can cover it up and act like it doesn't exist -- you can put lipstick on a pig, but its still just lipstick on a pig. Prince's song the truth--what is he trying to relate here? What if half the things ever said Turned out 2 be a lie... Isn't it just basically saying that truth and fact are not necessarily the same thing and that it is all ultimately subjective-hence it is hard to make true choices. Essentially the whole dilemma of truth. All we can ever truly know is our own personal truth and when we are lying to ourselves, where others are concerned it is really a matter of having faith in them How will U know the Truth? If U were given all the answers And U stopped 2 wonder why But how will U know the Truth? Everybody's got a right to love Everybody's got a right to lie But the choice U make aint no piece of cake It aint no MF piece of pie Gotta (Gonna?) tell the truth y'all Gotta tell the truth Gotta tell the truth y'all Gotta tell the truth Gotta tell the truth y'all Gotta tell the truth If there was just one day That everybody tell the truth | |
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sweething said: I was listening to the truth moments ago and the thought entered how appearances can be deceiving but one thing about the truth is, that it is.
The truth is not something that you can deny, you can cover it up and act like it doesn't exist -- you can put lipstick on a pig, but its still just lipstick on a pig. Prince's song the truth--what is he trying to relate here? What if half the things ever said Turned out 2 be a lie... How will U know the Truth? If U were given all the answers And U stopped 2 wonder why But how will U know the Truth? Everybody's got a right to love Everybody's got a right to lie But the choice U make aint no piece of cake It aint no MF piece of pie Gotta (Gonna?) tell the truth y'all Gotta tell the truth Gotta tell the truth y'all Gotta tell the truth Gotta tell the truth y'all Gotta tell the truth If there was just one day That everybody tell the truth Ok. I don't have it but I've heard everyone talking so much about it so "if this "song"... is just an apple....I have ta--ken a bite" ....I sought, found and listened. 1 fantastic song  Album is not available though right? Now I know why you guys talk about it. My take on what he's relating:
You can hear a lot of things that you might believe are the truth, they might be handed to you on a silver platter but until you discover for yourself, you'll never know if something is a lie/truth or not. Lol. So he changes a line about those who miss the old lyrics and says "that says more about you". My thoughts exactly. We can all lie or tell the truth. Lying is surely the broad & easy road. The truth as we all know, but hate to admit is the hard & narrow. No easy choice. One leads to total freedom, the other leads to being entangled in a web of deceipt, blinding others and ourselves. But at the end of time, "what will you have stood for?" Which road will you have taken? The road less travelled, even though it was narrow and hard, or the broader road because it was just easier? One damn amazing song! I'm impressed. If retailers put the real prices on the things they sell too...now wouldn't the world be different! So much truth everybody would be a lot happier. I like the line about "did you give more than you took" This also doesn't necessarily have to be material. (ie. bank accounts)It could also be of energy & love you spread in comparison to hate.
But in simple language the song also means what goes around comes around. You reap what you sew. [Edited 10/14/09 10:00am] "Free URself, B the best that U can B, 3rd Apartment from the Sun, nothing left to fear" Prince Rogers Nelson - Forever in my Life - | |
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One think to keep in mind, for every truth there is a lie that looks like it that is designed to trick you. "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" |
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Bohemian67 said: sweething said: I was listening to the truth moments ago and the thought entered how appearances can be deceiving but one thing about the truth is, that it is.
The truth is not something that you can deny, you can cover it up and act like it doesn't exist -- you can put lipstick on a pig, but its still just lipstick on a pig. Prince's song the truth--what is he trying to relate here? What if half the things ever said Turned out 2 be a lie... How will U know the Truth? If U were given all the answers And U stopped 2 wonder why But how will U know the Truth? Everybody's got a right to love Everybody's got a right to lie But the choice U make aint no piece of cake It aint no MF piece of pie Gotta (Gonna?) tell the truth y'all Gotta tell the truth Gotta tell the truth y'all Gotta tell the truth Gotta tell the truth y'all Gotta tell the truth If there was just one day That everybody tell the truth Ok. I don't have it but I've heard everyone talking so much about it so "if this "song"... is just an apple....I have ta--ken a bite" ....I sought, found and listened. 1 fantastic song Album is not available though right? Now I know why you guys talk about it. My take on what he's relating:
You can hear a lot of things that you might believe are the truth, they might be handed to you on a silver platter but until you discover for yourself, you'll never know if something is a lie/truth or not. Lol. So he changes a line about those who miss the old lyrics and says "that says more about you". My thoughts exactly. We can all lie or tell the truth. Lying is surely the broad & easy road. The truth as we all know, but hate to admit is the hard & narrow. No easy choice. One leads to total freedom, the other leads to being entangled in a web of deceipt, blinding others and ourselves. But at the end of time, "what will you have stood for?" Which road will you have taken? The road less travelled, even though it was narrow and hard, or the broader road because it was just easier? One damn amazing song! I'm impressed. If retailers put the real prices on the things they sell too...now wouldn't the world be different! So much truth everybody would be a lot happier. I like the line about "did you give more than you took" This also doesn't necessarily have to be material. (ie. bank accounts)It could also be of energy & love you spread in comparison to hate.
But in simple language the song also means what goes around comes around. You reap what you sew. [Edited 10/14/09 10:00am] A great song with blues overtones. I love it when he looses it.
The $ reference couldn't that be about moral bank account? Especially since he talks about giving more than getting. | |
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OnlyNDaUsa said: One think to keep in mind, for every truth there is a lie that looks like it that is designed to trick you.
Owww, you're hurting me  say it ain't so.
Why do you think that is? In the nitty of the gritty? | |
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sweething said: OnlyNDaUsa said: One think to keep in mind, for every truth there is a lie that looks like it that is designed to trick you.
Owww, you're hurting me say it ain't so.
Why do you think that is? In the nitty of the gritty? I know right. People like to say things that are untrue but close enough that people believe it in order to serve their own agenda. "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" |
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OnlyNDaUsa said: sweething said: Owww, you're hurting me say it ain't so.
Why do you think that is? In the nitty of the gritty? I know right. People like to say things that are untrue but close enough that people believe it in order to serve their own agenda. Yes I've seen that happen too, recently. But I appreciate what the song suggests that honesty is the best policy (that's the way I was taught); I don't believe in this life time we will get there, there's so many other factors preventing "the truth" from being told. It's just that way. If the truth were told about Wall Street, no one would ever invest again. But if you blame Price Waterhouse and you're JP Morgan, it could help you. If the truth were told about health care people would be looking for alternatives, etc. get my drift? So right now, its more comfortable to buy the story and live with the unspoken consequences -- people are happier that way. Everybody's got a right to love Everybody's got a right to lie But the choice U make aint no piece of cake It aint no MF piece of pie As I discover each of Prince's "political commentary" songs I am intrigued by the notions and realities of his statements.  | |
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