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Show no1 was totally awesome, I felt privileged 2B there: location, sound, setlist and performance and The Man Himself were perfect.... Worth every 1 of the 850 km's we drove to and fro on Sunday! Tell me what U think of me
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nobody seems to bother but the guy who posted the original pictures had to take them down by prince's manangement buy a tread to sue him.
see http://rockerparis.blogspot.com/ luckely he can still see his pictures here, strange. | |
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BartVanHemelen said: Man, the music he released after becoming free from WB must be too good to play live. Why not rehearse a tour Why rehearse if you can get paid to rehearse or even soundcheck? did they even do a soundcheck in that enormous greenhouse? but I wasn't there, so I can't judge if the sound was good, but I would never suggest anyone to do a (paid) concert in a building like that, impossible to get a good sound, you get a beautifull scenery that's for sure. | |
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PEJ said: OldFriends4Sale said: 3 different visibles in the band
1 blond singer cutie on the keyboards light dude on the drums in those pics they look a bit shocked YEAH WHO"S ON DRUMS AND WHO'S ON THE KEYS? Cora was on drums (the dude was here pa or someting), the blond background singer is Elisa Fiorillo and Prince DID NOT play Dance 4 me and 'No more candy 4 U'. On keys M Hayes and Cassie (Cassandra). The crowd didn't suck, but I agree that the French don't know how to party like u should.....I was dancing all the time and was almost the only one.... [Edited 10/12/09 2:29am] | |
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agirl said:[quote] PEJ said: The crowd didn't suck, but I agree that the French don't know how to party like u should.....I was dancing all the time and was almost the only one.... [Edited 10/12/09 2:29am] Totally agree on the French audience being a bit subdued, but don't you forget about me dancing and singing along to nearly all of the songs! Tell me what U think of me
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By the way, is it tipical for French audiences not to know many of the lyrics, or is that the sad state of things at a Prince concert these days?? Tell me what U think of me
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HE did Not Play Dance 4 me and no more Candy 4U.. | |
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A couple of remarks on a pretty good show:
- He is not responsible for having generated a generation of crazy fans who want to see every concert and expect each of them to be different (OK he is a bit responsible given the amazing impro skills he has displayed in aftershows, but 2 different main shows is not something a fan should expect) - The set list provided earlier is that displayed on the sound engineer's computer. it turned out that the actual set list was different (cannot remember details but he definitely ended with a love bizarre and did not play any song from the last album -I guess/hope he kept these for this wednesday's TV show). The set list was great although there were too many hits for my taste (but again main shows are not made for die-hard fans only so we should not blame him for that, and at least he played full versions of the hits and even better -e.g. great long guitar intro to Purple Rain) - Highlight of the show for me was this acoustic guitar version of All Day All Night! (and the chant itself became a leitmotiv for the night) - Version fo kiss was great (he mixed a lot of things into it), with breaks and dance moves I had not seen for years. Made me realise that I miss his dancing (but hey again, time just flies...). - That said, this group has to be the weakest Prince group I have ever seen. The drum+bass section plays overly straight without any nuance, and lack of rehearsals implied mistakes (never seen that before in my about 15 Prince concerts) and zero room for improvisation. Prince had to do the show alone with his guitar, but that does not replace impro battles with sax, bass and keyboards players... Cora is particularly boring (and believe me I am no hater and have liked almost all his groups in the past): Kirky J is a dream compared with her. The group made this an average Prince concert at best, despite the great modd he was in, a very nice set list and an amazing concert venue - More broadly, one gets the bad feeling that Prince is now on Vegas mode, putting in good shows but that lack novelty, conviction, not to mention vision. His shows have become far more predictable these days. Aftershows remain really exciting (I attended the last after of his 21 nights in London, which was a great moment), but in fact if you think deeply even these have also become more predictable than his late 1980s-early 1990s aftershows (where is the "small club" show of the 2000s, featuring new sounds and songs?). To me, his increasingly weak studio output has also had a bad impact on his concerts, although this may not be immediately apparent because he is just such a great and peerless performer. | |
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Is it just me, but he seems to be playing the same song for the last 5 years?!? This setlist looks dull! Just me!
Pictures are awesome tho... Keenmeister | |
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DrD said: More broadly, one gets the bad feeling that Prince is now on Vegas mode, putting in good shows but that lack novelty, conviction, not to mention vision. His shows have become far more predictable these days. Aftershows remain really exciting (I attended the last after of his 21 nights in London, which was a great moment), but in fact if you think deeply even these have also become more predictable than his late 1980s-early 1990s aftershows (where is the "small club" show of the 2000s, featuring new sounds and songs?). To me, his increasingly weak studio output has also had a bad impact on his concerts, although this may not be immediately apparent because he is just such a great and peerless performer.
I'm sorry, but I have to but in here... His setlists are predictable you say? Do yourself a favour and go and research all the setlists from the concerts he's performed this year - the 3 shows in LA, the 2 shows in Montreux, the 3 shows in Monaco and now the 2 Paris shows... Other than the second Paris show, every show has had a completely different setlist and there have been many unique arrangements. If anything, his setlists are MORE varied these days than they were in the peak of his touring days! These Paris shows alone he's played songs (Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad?, Mountains, Girl etc.) that he hasn't played in donkey's years! Toejam @ Peach & Black Podcast: http://peachandblack.podbean.com
Toejam's band "Cheap Fakes": http://cheapfakes.com.au, http://www.facebook.com/cheapfakes Toejam the solo artist: http://www.youtube.com/scottbignell | |
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You did not get my point: I never said the setlists were geting more predictable (they do not indeed), I said the shows themselves were getting more predictable, in terms of his attitude, moves, objectives...There were huge differentces between the Purple Rain, Parade, Sign O'the times, lovesexy and even diamonds and pearls tours. OK these were big shows, on which he has now given up. But still there were concepts underlying these shows (for instance a 70s-style JB concert for Parade). He has lost that ambition and vision. (not only because of money issues - the Rainbow Children tour for instance was fairly conceptual despite limited financial means) | |
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DrD said: but in fact if you think deeply even these have also become more predictable than his late 1980s-early 1990s aftershows (where is the "small club" show of the 2000s?).
Hmmm, what about Paris and Rotterdam 2002? The ONA aftershows were brilliant imho "ohYeeeeeah" said: I'm a massive Bowie fan. Even on Scary Monsters, I always skip Fame ... | |
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DrD said: You did not get my point: I never said the setlists were geting more predictable (they do not indeed), I said the shows themselves were getting more predictable, in terms of his attitude, moves, objectives...There were huge differentces between the Purple Rain, Parade, Sign O'the times, lovesexy and even diamonds and pearls tours. OK these were big shows, on which he has now given up. But still there were concepts underlying these shows (for instance a 70s-style JB concert for Parade). He has lost that ambition and vision. (not only because of money issues - the Rainbow Children tour for instance was fairly conceptual despite limited financial means)
Fair enough. I understand your point in that regard, but I think it's also a sign of the times, not just 'Prince is now in Vegas mode'. Prince couldn't sustain the following he has nowdays if he had a new 'concept' every year like he did back then. He's not a spring chicken anymore. He has to find the balance between satisfying the casual and the hardcore fans. His shows have been varied enough for me. A 'concept' tour would be cool every now and then, but it would be commercial suicide if he did it every year now with his slowly but surely depleting audience. [Edited 10/12/09 3:41am] Toejam @ Peach & Black Podcast: http://peachandblack.podbean.com
Toejam's band "Cheap Fakes": http://cheapfakes.com.au, http://www.facebook.com/cheapfakes Toejam the solo artist: http://www.youtube.com/scottbignell | |
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PurpleDiamond2009 said: his age is starting to show
Yes finally but he don't have to worry he still got it. I think the bad lightening makes it looks so weird. Dancing helps relieve the pain. Soothes your mind, makes you happy again!!! | |
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VenusBlingBling said: Isn't that Shelby back there?
Very Nice... xo "The Lion Sleeps Tonight... | |
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Tame said: VenusBlingBling said: Isn't that Shelby back there?
Very Nice... xo It looks pretty magical. | |
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toejam said: DrD said: You did not get my point: I never said the setlists were geting more predictable (they do not indeed), I said the shows themselves were getting more predictable, in terms of his attitude, moves, objectives...There were huge differentces between the Purple Rain, Parade, Sign O'the times, lovesexy and even diamonds and pearls tours. OK these were big shows, on which he has now given up. But still there were concepts underlying these shows (for instance a 70s-style JB concert for Parade). He has lost that ambition and vision. (not only because of money issues - the Rainbow Children tour for instance was fairly conceptual despite limited financial means)
Fair enough. I understand your point in that regard, but I think it's also a sign of the times, not just 'Prince is now in Vegas mode'. Prince couldn't sustain the following he has nowdays if he had a new 'concept' every year like he did back then. He's not a spring chicken anymore. He has to find the balance between satisfying the casual and the hardcore fans. His shows have been varied enough for me. A 'concept' tour would be cool every now and then, but it would be commercial suicide if he did it every year now with his slowly but surely depleting audience. [Edited 10/12/09 3:41am] I actually agree! All I am asking for is for a conceptual tour from time to time, and we have not had that since Rainbow Children (which incidentally was also his last concept album, something I am also badly missing these days) | |
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Girl (*acoustic)
All Day, All Night * Mountains these are great otherwise the setlist isn't looking too good, IMO. 1999 is played for the billionth' time. I could change my mind later, since I haven't heard any of these, Prince pretty please.... Release it.... the DVD, but of course that won't happen. Prince 4Ever. | |
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Soulstar77A said: DrD said: but in fact if you think deeply even these have also become more predictable than his late 1980s-early 1990s aftershows (where is the "small club" show of the 2000s?).
Hmmm, what about Paris and Rotterdam 2002? The ONA aftershows were brilliant imho You are right, although that is mostly true of just a couple of songs (in ap[rticular the intros of both shows).But again these were aftershows to the very conceptual and innovative Rainbow Children Tour. I have been missing that since then (this was really an innovative turn he could have taken but ultimately did not, returning to more commercial albums and tours the following years) | |
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torahwarrior said: Rinluv said: . [Edited 10/11/09 15:58pm] Anyone know if there's a name for that style of collar? (on the jacket) We would call it Russian collar here. I'm not sure if it's a typical one, but it's definitely very similar from what I can see. | |
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CHRISLUV92 said: Without Love ( Doobie Brothers )
Nice! | |
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That´s my man He looks great Forever in my life... | |
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What's all this "acoustic" talk about, he din't play any song on an acoustic instrument. He did some songs on his own where he played his norman electric "Honer/The Prinz" guitar. | |
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toejam said: DrD said: You did not get my point: I never said the setlists were geting more predictable (they do not indeed), I said the shows themselves were getting more predictable, in terms of his attitude, moves, objectives...There were huge differentces between the Purple Rain, Parade, Sign O'the times, lovesexy and even diamonds and pearls tours. OK these were big shows, on which he has now given up. But still there were concepts underlying these shows (for instance a 70s-style JB concert for Parade). He has lost that ambition and vision. (not only because of money issues - the Rainbow Children tour for instance was fairly conceptual despite limited financial means)
Fair enough. I understand your point in that regard, but I think it's also a sign of the times, not just 'Prince is now in Vegas mode'. Prince couldn't sustain the following he has nowdays if he had a new 'concept' every year like he did back then. He's not a spring chicken anymore. He has to find the balance between satisfying the casual and the hardcore fans. His shows have been varied enough for me. A 'concept' tour would be cool every now and then, but it would be commercial suicide if he did it every year now with his slowly but surely depleting audience. [Edited 10/12/09 3:41am] What are you, some sort of capitalist ? Is he not the guy who wrote SLAVE on his cheek ? Yes, a slave he is, only to this grand image of himself that no one gives a shit about anymore. You know what ? He's more than fifty, and most of us are approaching our forties. Geez, let it go man, I don't need 30 songs, after having seeing how good the Lotusflow3r TV performances have been, I was expecting you to prove me that your last record has some good stuff in it. Sell me your present, man ! These... pardon me, THIS playlist looks like he wants Warner to make money out of their back catalog. Being mean cuz I love the man. I was enthousiastic and extatic from 17:00 to 19:00, happy to see the man is still sincere and generous. But sooo disappointed at 22:00, hearing song after song the exact same breaks and key changes. Don't tell me I shouldn't have bought the two shows. He lives in part thanks to us fans. The public couldn't care less. He only makes the news nowadays because of this so-called last decision (a barnum move, once again) to make this concert, and because of his Marlene Dietrich extravaganza. The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
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STIJNKRISTINE said: What's all this "acoustic" talk about, he din't play any song on an acoustic instrument. He did some songs on his own where he played his norman electric "Honer/The Prinz" guitar.
True (and sorry for being one of those missusing the term) it was just a set with him and his Honer | |
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hestilllovesme said: PurpleDiamond2009 said: his age is starting to show
Yes finally but he don't have to worry he still got it. I think the bad lightening makes it looks so weird. No, he's fifty. Wake up. The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams | |
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CHRISLUV92 said: SETLIST 1999 I Feel For You Controversy Sexy Dancer - Le Freak ( Chic ) Y U Wanna Treat Me So Bad ? Take Me With U Anotherloverholenyohead Guitar Raspberry Beret Girl (*acoustic) All Day, All Night * I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man * The 1 U Wanna C * Sometimes It Snows In April * Mountains Everyday People ( Sly & family stone ) I Want To Take U Higher ( Sly ... ) Without Love ( Doobie Brothers ) Play That Funky Music Partyman Shake your body to the ground What have you done for me lately Uptown Let's Work Kiss Cool All The Critics Love U In Paris All Day, All Night Cream U Got the look [Edited 10/11/09 15:03pm] | |
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Rinluv said: Oh shit, Prince brought the purple electric piano back!!!!! Think thats it. [Edited 10/11/09 15:58pm] if you are talking about the thing he is leaning on, that's not a piano. That is a Mesa Boogie amplifier (Haleluja) we do not stop playing because we grow old , we grow old because we stop playing | |
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This set list is truely for all of US!So many forgoting songs.All day all nite is a great song that never was heard!Thanks Prince-Now go dig a bit deeper and play some really old stuff! | |
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