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Thread started 10/08/09 6:10pm

funkylust

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Rare Vinyl SOTT Remixes Acetate

Has anyone here got or heard these? I have been wondering what they are like...
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Reply #1 posted 10/08/09 6:29pm

Mong

I seem to recall this being a fake.
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Reply #2 posted 10/08/09 6:50pm

ernestsewell

Definitely a fake.
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Reply #3 posted 10/08/09 7:41pm

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Really!? After all these years I have been tricked!
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Reply #4 posted 10/08/09 7:45pm

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What about the scans on Sleevographia2?

12" Test Pressing • USA • 28399
Sign "O" The Times (Bailey Edit 6:32)
Sign "O" The Times (King/Lemon Re Edit 6:36)

Do these mixes exist? The scan looks pretty convincing...
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Reply #5 posted 10/09/09 1:24am

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funkylust said:

What about the scans on Sleevographia2?

12" Test Pressing • USA • 28399
Sign "O" The Times (Bailey Edit 6:32)
Sign "O" The Times (King/Lemon Re Edit 6:36)

Do these mixes exist? The scan looks pretty convincing...


That's interesting. Never heard of these.
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Reply #6 posted 10/09/09 2:43am

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Looks like it's probably an unoffical DJ mix or something.
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Reply #7 posted 10/09/09 2:49am

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BorisFishpaw said:

Looks like it's probably an unoffical DJ mix or something.


I didn't think Sleevographia was prone to add unofficial items to their listings. hmmm
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Reply #8 posted 10/09/09 3:16am

funkylust

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squirrelgrease said:

BorisFishpaw said:

Looks like it's probably an unoffical DJ mix or something.


I didn't think Sleevographia was prone to add unofficial items to their listings. hmmm


Yeah thats what I thought too. From what I heard years ago, they were pressed as test pressings and then the remixes were aborted.. I just want to hear them...

There is a picture of the sleeve on the site too... Looks like a scan to me..
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Reply #9 posted 10/09/09 3:59am

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squirrelgrease said:

BorisFishpaw said:

Looks like it's probably an unoffical DJ mix or something.


I didn't think Sleevographia was prone to add unofficial items to their listings. hmmm


Well, they've had unofficial items on there before.

The reasons why it's almost certainly not offical are...

1. It's pressed by Artisan... I've never seen any offical WB Prince items
use this pressing plant before (just look at all the other test pressings
and actetates shown on the site and elsewhere).

2. It's dated 3/29/87... a month and a half AFTER Sign O' The Times had
already been released as a single! (a true test pressing or acetate would
HAVE to be dated prior to the record's release)


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Reply #10 posted 10/09/09 4:29am

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BorisFishpaw said:



2. It's dated 3/29/87... a month and a half AFTER Sign O' The Times had
already been released as a single! (a true test pressing or acetate would
HAVE to be dated prior to the record's release).



Isn't it possible that it was pressed as a potential remix 12"? I have seen this happen before, the original version is released with full length album version with a B Side and then later, dance mixes come out for clubs.. Perhaps Prince didn't like the remixes and felt the song's message was important to be heard..Maybe he felt the track wasn't appropriate as a remix..

He would save that for Hot Thing... Just a theory..
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(you squeeze your balls?) no that's not it...
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Reply #11 posted 10/09/09 5:30am

Mong

I'm pretty sure these mixes were on a boot a few years ago...they were heavy handed re-edits.

Definitely a fake.
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Reply #12 posted 10/09/09 7:20am

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funkylust said:

BorisFishpaw said:



2. It's dated 3/29/87... a month and a half AFTER Sign O' The Times had
already been released as a single! (a true test pressing or acetate would
HAVE to be dated prior to the record's release).



Isn't it possible that it was pressed as a potential remix 12"? I have seen this happen before, the original version is released with full length album version with a B Side and then later, dance mixes come out for clubs.. Perhaps Prince didn't like the remixes and felt the song's message was important to be heard..Maybe he felt the track wasn't appropriate as a remix..

He would save that for Hot Thing... Just a theory..


No, that's way too late for a remix to be released. Even when the record
company decides to stagger the release or release 2 12"s, this would still
all have been sorted out well in advance of the release date.

There's no way an acetate dated a month and a half after the commercial
release date would ever be seriously intended for release.

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Reply #13 posted 10/09/09 10:32am

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BorisFishpaw said:

squirrelgrease said:



I didn't think Sleevographia was prone to add unofficial items to their listings. hmmm


Well, they've had unofficial items on there before.

The reasons why it's almost certainly not offical are...

1. It's pressed by Artisan... I've never seen any offical WB Prince items
use this pressing plant before (just look at all the other test pressings
and actetates shown on the site and elsewhere).

2. It's dated 3/29/87... a month and a half AFTER Sign O' The Times had
already been released as a single! (a true test pressing or acetate would
HAVE to be dated prior to the record's release)


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Good points. I'm sure you're correct - something doesn't smell right with this acetate. I noticed that Sleevographia has a Fake page dedicated to things like this, but since it wasn't linked to that page made me wonder about this particular item. The Sleevographia folks don't answer their emails, so it's hard to question their motivation behind stuff like this.

Anyone ever heard these mixes?
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Reply #14 posted 10/09/09 11:34am

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The first thing I did was check the fake listings at Sleevographia. As stated, it's not there.

Still sounds like a fake to me.
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Reply #15 posted 10/09/09 11:51am

ernestsewell

I'm confused as to why this is even a question. We know the remixes that came out with most any song, especially from the 80's. shrug
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Reply #16 posted 10/09/09 12:07pm

khemseraph

curious
when sign o the times placed at #2 on the dance charts it is listed as a remix.the 12inch maxi single that hit number 1 on the maxi-single chart(a lil prince chart history for ya) however isn't listed as a remix
Reply #5 posted 10/09/09 4:29am
funkylust



BorisFishpaw said:



2. It's dated 3/29/87... a month and a half AFTER Sign O' The Times had
already been released as a single! (a true test pressing or acetate would
HAVE to be dated prior to the record's release).



Isn't it possible that it was pressed as a potential remix 12"? I have seen this happen before, the original version is released with full length album version with a B Side and then later, dance mixes come out for clubs.. Perhaps Prince didn't like the remixes and felt the song's message was important to be heard..Maybe he felt the track wasn't appropriate as a remix..

He would save that for Hot Thing... Just a theory..

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The feeling you get when...

(you squeeze your balls?) no that's not it...

so....
perhaps it's the mix that was played
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