japanrocks said:

Did I approve of the userinterface here?
You divert from the principle, the core issue.
About the joining thing: it is a fake argument since all content can be downloaded without a membership from that site. Yes, still.
So it could still be hosted there and still people could see it.
But perhaps mr P was shocked by the bandwidth fees of the lotusflow3r.com site, so he chose to do it the cheaper way like he is doing now.

Also the 'new' content is not even linked to from the lotusflow3r site. That would have been not so hard to do....

`Epic fail` is one of the candidate descriptions for the strategy category of nominations...

udo said:

we get it UDO you're not happy!
Hey why not keep your moaning within lotus section and not on every damn thread on this site. You really are coming across as irritating
[Edited 10/7/09 2:15am]

Well... Shelbey's hint of a Paris visit have come to be true

udo said:

I should clarify that I don't think Prince is being smart about his online presence. Obviously all this material that is popping up randomly at places like DrFunkenberry's blog and Shelbey's YouTube account should first and foremost be at the official site that he charged fans to join. But, it's not.
Hating on Funkenberry & Shelbey, who have no control over Prince's decisions and are merely lucky enough to get exclusives, will not get you any answers from Prince. It will also not get Prince to be logical and premiere these treats at the LotusFlow3r.
I think the majority of us agree with these points to some degree. The difference between us is, while we just shrug, accept that it is illogical, and then enjoy those exclusive tracks & videos, you instead demand answers and a logical distribution plan. I'm pretty sure you're not going to get that from Prince right now. He's gonna do what he wants... You should accept it and Letitgo cuz it's got yo' painties in a wad something fierce, dude.

and by the way, if you don't think he is currently enforcing his rights online, test your theory, put up a bootleg video on YouTube and see how long it lasts, then come back and give us a report, mmmkay?

djThunderfunk said:

great comments.....some of the people on here make me sick

FunkyStrange said:

Be real. She just said what drfunkenberry reported weeks before.


She gave us cool vids, that is good enough for us.


Stop feeding us bull. I was really starting to respect you and your podcasts too.

Hope you enjoy the podcast

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[Edited 10/8/09 14:54pm]

djThunderfunk said:

Please do not paint me like I am 'hating'. That might be the american thing to do (like Bush said: you're either with us or against us) but that is not what I am doing. I am merely questioning a few the most obvious `issues` with mr. Number One at the Bank's way of doing things.
`Demands` is also a word that you chose to write. See my questions once again, please.
I don't think really wants anything here. He just does something, -as it appears- without a plan. This might be a transitional phase, this might be a dead end. We're just concerned that it might be clearly sub-optimal for most of us.

japanrocks said:

Some comments here make me sick indeed; did you really think that djThunderfunk's wordings were a good way of paraphrasing what I mean?
How superficial would that be?

udo said:

Prince does something without thinking first? Wow! That's a shocker. All I have to say is that Prince under contract was hard to predict but easy to control. Now that he is free he is unpredictable and impossible to control. Fans are usually not used to dealing with this type of artist. But if you are a real fan - you deal with it.

japanrocks said:

Why suddenly make it a personal issue? You're getting offtopic.

Can't you see the imbalance?
Mr. control freak, number one at the bank and whatever yet he consistently fails to monetize on these simple things.

Here http://www.wired.com/vide...3994837001 is an article that slightly relates to a more interested approach of marketing music to fans. It mentions some key aspects of the electronic ways of doing business...

It could give you an idea of what one could do to make their music career prosper a tiny tad more.

udo said:

Thanks but who cares. Of course there are a myriad of different and better ways Prince could market. It is what it is.


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[Edited 10/9/09 11:07am]

udo said:

Well, okay, you may not be "hating", you are certainly very angry, my point is that A) your anger does not get you what you want & B) any anger you aim at Shelbey & Funkenberry is unwarranted.
I would add, if Prince's marketing plans (or lack thereof) upset and anger you to this degree, maybe you should do the logical thing and stop being his customer. There are plenty of other outlets for your entertainment dollar that may be more suited to your needs.

djThunderfunk said:

Look on the bright side Udo. Everything in life is regulated. Everything is mass marketed, everything & everyone is telling you "buy more buy more you don't have enough." Prince is pushing nothing down anyone's throat. He's making himself exclusive, not commercial junk, by doing things last minute and in subtle fashion. Be thankful he's different.

udo said:

So. Thats his right. You shouldn't worry and be so upset about these things

djThunderfunk said:

djThunderfunk said:

Again the anger thing.
Is my dutch so bad even you don't understand it?


Same thing.
He does stupid things all the time. See Crystal Ball. See the number of websites and hwo they ended. See the way he edits his aftershow CD's.
Etc, etc, etc.


Perhaps you are just saying that you cannot deal with somebody that sees the weirdness in all of this and has the energy to write it here.
Your way of looking at things has brought certain parts of the world into the current problematic situations.
Nuff said.

Just keep on listening to the podcast Udo

udo said:

Dude, you are not the only one that has issues with Crystal Ball, NPGMC lifetime memberships, and the debacle known as LotusFlow3r.com. I got burned on the first two and you know what? I didn't join LotusFlow3r. You see, fool me once (Crystal Ball), shame on you (Prince), fool me twice (NPGMC), shame on me, fool me a third time? I don't think so... Maybe that's why you're pissed... Have you been burned a third time? If so, shame on you.

-self snip-
forget it, not worth it, done...
[Edited 10/11/09 9:53am]

So what's the next podcast going to be about? Jesse Johnson seems to be primed for an interview. Just a thought.

Who is Shelbey and what is she doing in the Prince forum?

I actually think it's a great idea of Prince to use a fan to show his videos. I hope it's a step in the direction to let his unsatisfied fans do a lot more. Maybe the artwork for posters to the shows, the CD-covers, e t c. Finally he can even let fans read and make his lyrics better, and before putting them on CD:s/computerfiles, let the fans that plays instrument put their final touch on the music (with changes or things they think will improve the songs). In time Prince can lay back, retire, and just enjoy life. His work will live on thrue his fans - now known as the nicest and most creative in the world.

And once again Prince will win awards and being praised for being the most innovative artist in the buísness...

squirrelgrease said:

^ We would love to have Jesse, or any other Prince related artist on our show. Ultimately it's up to them if they want to come on the show or not. Our amount of fans and listening audience is very small, we would wanna make sure that if we were to have someone on the show of that caliber, we would have to demonstrate to these great artists it's worth their while to come onboard.

You know, many other people have posted videos and not been such attention seekers. What's up with this child?

Dayclear said:

nothing, that's why Prince said ok, she a normal girl just having fun with the music ...

and she looks good too

Dayclear said:

A couple of reasons...

Firstly, the videos she's posted have been previously unseen (even in underground circles), and secondly, Prince has yet to have unleashed the infamous PP Police on her for posting them. It is compelling evidence that suggests she is what she claims she is... Prince's current official Youtube Vee-Jay.

Dayclear said:

Yeah, there have been other cooler fan/supporter videos on youtube that have been forced to be removed. I understand what you mean with your question, but I can't answer. Well, I can, but I won't.

WaterInYourBath said:

because she is hot, intelligent and funny

ooops...i guess i am thinking out loud again