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Reply #30 posted 09/28/09 9:05am

mzkqueen03

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[Edited 12/10/09 11:01am]
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #31 posted 09/28/09 9:06am

Imago

ernestsewell said:

purpledoveuk said:

Here's an idea Prince...how about selli g something to the fans who aren't stupid or millionaires


highfive Exactly. He promised big things for $77, and look how those people got fucked dry. Imagine how he'd make you bleed out of the ass for $2500. It's a fancy case, an iPod, and 40 minutes of video (from a concert tour that had 21 dates and where the shows averages 2 hours??? REALLY PRINCE??? REALLY??) No 40 minute video is worth that, unless it's the unedited video of the creation of the world.

I love Prince, but he will never learn how to really give his fans the things they desire. And it's not about emptying the vault or something. Just release a DVD of a tour. Not some hand held bullshit edited by Sam Jennings or whoever, that isn't even the whole show. (Aladdin) No....release a whole concert, with some backstage footage, some interview. Not some "end of the year" party where the audience looks bored to death because you took 2 hours between sets to appear out of your fucking powder room primping like a bitch to perform a GCS medley. (Rave Un2) No. Release a whole concert, front to back. Make a deal with Coachella, or Montreaux Jazz, or wherever you play and just RELEASE IT BOY! I'd pay $20 a pop every time for a DVD, or CD/DVD set of a REAL show. Go watch everything on the Justin Timberlake FutureSexLoveShow DVD set. Interviews w/ Justin and the band, the show, behind the scenes (or in this case, under the stage) footage as the show happened, then the cameras followed him from the stage all the way to the dressing room, and still had more footage after that. The 2nd DVD was full of stuff too. Just an example of what an artist CAN do for their fans, when they realize how much their fans have helped make their career, and pad their wallets.

Prince is so fucking scared of being bootlegged (get past it, you can't stop it), that he has locked down EVERYTHING. And when he doesn't.....he charges everyday Americans who are barely keeping a roof over their heads and a car key in their pocket $2,500 for some bullshit iPod. What happens when you sync the iPod? Is the video gone? Because there goes your $2500, right through your USB cord. Hear that laughing? That'd be Prince as he strolls to Bank of America.

Come on boy.....getcha thing together.



Although I don't argue that your sentiment is shared by many, I don't think the Opus was ever meant for a wider audience, specifically his middle and lower class fans.

Several artists have released really , really expensive luxury items only intended for those who have the money to buy them.


I think a real travesty would be if Prince were to release lots of music from the vault, and videos people really wanted to see on the Opus. Fans would really get the shaft then because most fans would not be able to afford it. But Prince didn't do that. He left any real tantalizing material off of the Opus and treated it like the item that it was--a luxury items for those with money to throw away.

You really are paying for a 40 min video, an iPod, and a fancy case--nothing more. If Prince had included more things, then it would have been worse for me. Because, then he would really be taking a piss at fans who couldn't afford it. Imagine him releasing "The Dawn" and hundreds of tracks from the vault with concert footage and videos to boot--that would be agonizing for fans who couldn't afford it in one shot. But that's not what he did. Instead, he released an unessential novelty item for folks who can drop money on it, which in my opinion really shouldn't offend fans to much. If I won't drop 50 bucks on bad smelling Prince perfume, why would I do so with this iPod? And more importantly, why should it offend me not to be able to buy these unessential items?

To me the Opus is nothing more than just a fun little novelty toy--not something most fans should actually really want to purchase. I don't see anything wrong with the product. I'll never buy it. lol
But if the Olsen twins want to purchase something cute in a purple case that they'll play maybe once or twice, more power to them.

I think folks get worked up over the Opus too much. The real travesty is the $77 dollar supscription to lotusfailure.com that ended up being largely abandoned. Lest we not forget, most of lotusflow3r subscribers also had a lifetime membership to npgmc.com lol which didn't transfer over to lotusflow3r memberships lol. Hopefully we'll see more material on that site, but I'm not holding my breath. lol


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Reply #32 posted 09/28/09 9:28am

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Techncially many of us already purchased this 21 Nights when it was released in September-October 2008. It was by Atria Books and it came with a CD with a compilation of two aftershows from IndigO2.

Basically this new Opus book has been in development for most of the year, many months before Michael Jackson's tragic passing, and it seems Opus is fast-tracking his book rather than Prince's book.

If I had $2100 right now I would use it to pay off credit card bills and not on a book I already purchased.

I purchased this book through Amazon.com in 2008 for $31.21 - a super far cry from $2100.
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Reply #33 posted 09/28/09 9:30am

Azahar

Just to clarify for mzkqueen03...

No.1 opus is the jewel studded one that will be up for auction, late 2009. The launch party is due to be held at the Opus Store, London, the night before the auction. Auction winner also gets private performance in LA for 50 guests plus jacket from 21 nights.

When all 950 opuses have been sold, purchasers of same will be entered into a prize draw for a chance to win £21,000.

reading That's my understanding of the blurb anyway www.princeopus.com

Good Luck if you do decide to bid! rainbo
[Edited 9/28/09 9:38am]
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Reply #34 posted 09/28/09 9:31am

ernestsewell

mzkqueen03 said:

...ohhh it IS A BIG-DEAL!!!....i will ALSO BE WEARING L-O-V-E-SYMBOL over my heart...because 1stEDITION IS the ONLY 1 THAT WILL HAVE PRINCE'S-CREST!!!!!...
..mzsexybaby'BIG-DADDI WILL KNOW WHO IS HIS-OLE'LADY!' sexy



Sometimes I forget to realize what kind of people are on the Org. :shudders:

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Reply #35 posted 09/28/09 9:39am

ernestsewell

Azahar said:

Just to clarify for mzkqueen03...

No.1 opus is the jewel studded one that will be up for auction, late 2009. The launch party is due to be held at the Opus Store, London, the night before the auction. Auction winner also gets private performance in LA for 50 guests plus jacket from 21 nights. (Maybe get together with other friends & bid for the limited edition if you really want that private party?).

When all 950 opuses have been sold, purchasers of same will be entered into a prize draw for a chance to win £21,000.


The thing is, just a few years ago, the people who paid a mere $100 (in a better economy) for a year's NPGMC subscription got to see Prince at the soundchecks as part of their membership. I would be that most times there were not much more than 100-120 people at those soundchecks, depending on the city.

It all just seems rather greedy of Prince and whoever is putting this together. I'm not worked up over it, because I don't want it, and I'm not bidding on it, nor can afford $2500 on an iPod in a fancy case.
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Reply #36 posted 09/28/09 9:46am

piccolo7

mzkqueen03 said:

ernestsewell said:



Oh.....first edition. Big F-ing deal. First = ONLY = not that special. Guess papa needs a new pair of Cuban heels.

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...stop ur DRAMA and save it 4 ur mama...CUZ SHE NOT HERE!!!..
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...ohhh it IS A BIG-DEAL!!!....i will ALSO BE WEARING L-O-V-E-SYMBOL over my heart...because 1stEDITION IS the ONLY 1 THAT WILL HAVE PRINCE'S-CREST!!!!!...
..mzsexybaby'BIG-DADDI WILL KNOW WHO IS HIS-OLE'LADY!' sexy



LOL YOU TWO MAKE ME LAUGH.... !!! lol
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Reply #37 posted 09/28/09 9:47am

piccolo7

Azahar said:

Just to clarify for mzkqueen03...

No.1 opus is the jewel studded one that will be up for auction, late 2009. The launch party is due to be held at the Opus Store, London, the night before the auction. Auction winner also gets private performance in LA for 50 guests plus jacket from 21 nights.

When all 950 opuses have been sold, purchasers of same will be entered into a prize draw for a chance to win £21,000.

reading That's my understanding of the blurb anyway www.princeopus.com

Good Luck if you do decide to bid! rainbo
[Edited 9/28/09 9:38am]


IVE ALREADY TRIED TO EXPLAIN THT TO MZQUEEN03... cool
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Reply #38 posted 09/28/09 9:49am

Azahar

ernestsewell I completely agree with you.

$$$ towards new cuban heels for sure! Those wedge heels with the flashing lights remind me of my nephew's trainers. He's two. lol
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Reply #39 posted 09/28/09 10:29am

DesireeNevermi
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Bohemian67 said:

This is not a good time to release it considering MJ passed and his film is to be released in Oct and his Opus in December. Two stars two worlds apart. These books are a bit pricey for me. I'd rather buy music razz



ah that's not fair, princey planned this not knowing what was going to happen with MJ, nobody was expecting that. sad
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Reply #40 posted 09/28/09 10:52am

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[Edited 12/10/09 11:02am]
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #41 posted 09/28/09 10:55am

ernestsewell

mzkqueen03 said:

....WOW ERNEST U LOOK GOOD...not ur color..but still u r passable!!..
..mzsexybaby'>WAVE'IN HAND<...U MAY..PAASSS' wave


And you're certifiable wacky
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Reply #42 posted 09/28/09 10:55am

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[Edited 12/10/09 11:03am]
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #43 posted 09/28/09 10:58am

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[Edited 12/10/09 11:04am]
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #44 posted 09/28/09 11:20am

LittleNicci

what if the person that wins it is here in the UK will he have the party here or will we all have to pay to go to US? too expensive for me right now but have thought about it would be great to have a party for my mates.
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Reply #45 posted 09/28/09 11:26am

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^^^ who is that in the mug shot?
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Reply #46 posted 09/28/09 11:49am

RodeoSchro

luvsexy4all said:

if only a handfull of peeps buy his thing ...those lucky few have a BIG chance to get that ticket prize. realistically it should be whomever buys this opus gets to go


I'm betting that anyone that buys an Opus has about a 1-in-11 chance of being picked.
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Reply #47 posted 09/28/09 2:02pm

piccolo7

ernestsewell said:

mzkqueen03 said:

....WOW ERNEST U LOOK GOOD...not ur color..but still u r passable!!..
..mzsexybaby'>WAVE'IN HAND<...U MAY..PAASSS' wave


And you're certifiable wacky





hah! MY GOD. YOU TWO ....u keep crackin me up with laughter
the way u both go on .... lol lol
both of you are way too funny,,,,
like watching a comedy show ....
maybe u both are a good match ????
how dats ????
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Reply #48 posted 09/28/09 2:15pm

piccolo7

mzkqueen03 said:

Azahar said:

Just to clarify for mzkqueen03...

No.1 opus is the jewel studded one that will be up for auction, late 2009. The launch party is due to be held at the Opus Store, London, the night before the auction. Auction winner also gets private performance in LA for 50 guests plus jacket from 21 nights.

When all 950 opuses have been sold, purchasers of same will be entered into a prize draw for a chance to win £21,000.

reading That's my understanding of the blurb anyway www.princeopus.com

Good Luck if you do decide to bid! rainbo
[Edited 9/28/09 9:38am]

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....yes!!!...YES!!!...YES!!!!!...THANK-U 4 THE 4-11!!!...
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...my heart is PONDING YA'LL....
..PRIVATE-PARTY WITH PRINCE!!!!! touched
...THAT'S WHAT IS IMPORTANT!!!...
..mzsexybaby crysball


ahhhhh now l see tht my buddy the giraffe here is so so excited cos she want to win PRINCEY....money mmm HIS money ??? mmm is tht right mzqueen03 is tht why ure excited ????. hmmm
oh well lets see whos name comes out of the bag huh !!! lol
wish u luck my friend ... whistle
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Reply #49 posted 09/28/09 3:39pm

ernestsewell

piccolo7 said:

ernestsewell said:



And you're certifiable wacky





hah! MY GOD. YOU TWO ....u keep crackin me up with laughter
the way u both go on .... lol lol
both of you are way too funny,,,,
like watching a comedy show ....
maybe u both are a good match ????
how dats ????


It's women like her that's the reason some of us are gay.
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Reply #50 posted 09/28/09 9:22pm

luvsexy4all

mzkqueen03 said:

luvsexy4all said:

if only a handfull of peeps buy his thing ...those lucky few have a BIG chance to get that ticket prize. realistically it should be whomever buys this opus gets to go

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... lol lol lol
..I'M NO FOOL...i put money on it!!! biggrin
...imagin YA'LL...HOLDING 1st EDITION PRINCE-OPUS in MY hands!!!!!...
..1st EDITION!!!...#1....i see it in my hands ya'll!!!..
...mzsexybaby'WATCH-ME!!' crysball


i wouldnt get my hopes up so high mzqueen,,,,but u should be chosen on enthusiasm alone
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Reply #51 posted 09/29/09 7:38am

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[Edited 12/10/09 11:04am]
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #52 posted 09/29/09 7:41am

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[Edited 12/10/09 11:05am]
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #53 posted 09/29/09 7:45am

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[Edited 12/10/09 11:07am]
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #54 posted 09/29/09 9:33am

Billmenever

Imago said:

ernestsewell said:



highfive Exactly. He promised big things for $77, and look how those people got fucked dry. Imagine how he'd make you bleed out of the ass for $2500. It's a fancy case, an iPod, and 40 minutes of video (from a concert tour that had 21 dates and where the shows averages 2 hours??? REALLY PRINCE??? REALLY??) No 40 minute video is worth that, unless it's the unedited video of the creation of the world.

I love Prince, but he will never learn how to really give his fans the things they desire. And it's not about emptying the vault or something. Just release a DVD of a tour. Not some hand held bullshit edited by Sam Jennings or whoever, that isn't even the whole show. (Aladdin) No....release a whole concert, with some backstage footage, some interview. Not some "end of the year" party where the audience looks bored to death because you took 2 hours between sets to appear out of your fucking powder room primping like a bitch to perform a GCS medley. (Rave Un2) No. Release a whole concert, front to back. Make a deal with Coachella, or Montreaux Jazz, or wherever you play and just RELEASE IT BOY! I'd pay $20 a pop every time for a DVD, or CD/DVD set of a REAL show. Go watch everything on the Justin Timberlake FutureSexLoveShow DVD set. Interviews w/ Justin and the band, the show, behind the scenes (or in this case, under the stage) footage as the show happened, then the cameras followed him from the stage all the way to the dressing room, and still had more footage after that. The 2nd DVD was full of stuff too. Just an example of what an artist CAN do for their fans, when they realize how much their fans have helped make their career, and pad their wallets.

Prince is so fucking scared of being bootlegged (get past it, you can't stop it), that he has locked down EVERYTHING. And when he doesn't.....he charges everyday Americans who are barely keeping a roof over their heads and a car key in their pocket $2,500 for some bullshit iPod. What happens when you sync the iPod? Is the video gone? Because there goes your $2500, right through your USB cord. Hear that laughing? That'd be Prince as he strolls to Bank of America.

Come on boy.....getcha thing together.



Although I don't argue that your sentiment is shared by many, I don't think the Opus was ever meant for a wider audience, specifically his middle and lower class fans.

Several artists have released really , really expensive luxury items only intended for those who have the money to buy them.


I think a real travesty would be if Prince were to release lots of music from the vault, and videos people really wanted to see on the Opus. Fans would really get the shaft then because most fans would not be able to afford it. But Prince didn't do that. He left any real tantalizing material off of the Opus and treated it like the item that it was--a luxury items for those with money to throw away.

You really are paying for a 40 min video, an iPod, and a fancy case--nothing more. If Prince had included more things, then it would have been worse for me. Because, then he would really be taking a piss at fans who couldn't afford it. Imagine him releasing "The Dawn" and hundreds of tracks from the vault with concert footage and videos to boot--that would be agonizing for fans who couldn't afford it in one shot. But that's not what he did. Instead, he released an unessential novelty item for folks who can drop money on it, which in my opinion really shouldn't offend fans to much. If I won't drop 50 bucks on bad smelling Prince perfume, why would I do so with this iPod? And more importantly, why should it offend me not to be able to buy these unessential items?

To me the Opus is nothing more than just a fun little novelty toy--not something most fans should actually really want to purchase. I don't see anything wrong with the product. I'll never buy it. lol
But if the Olsen twins want to purchase something cute in a purple case that they'll play maybe once or twice, more power to them.

I think folks get worked up over the Opus too much. The real travesty is the $77 dollar supscription to lotusfailure.com that ended up being largely abandoned. Lest we not forget, most of lotusflow3r subscribers also had a lifetime membership to npgmc.com lol which didn't transfer over to lotusflow3r memberships lol. Hopefully we'll see more material on that site, but I'm not holding my breath. lol


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"No 40 minute video is worth that, unless it's the unedited video of the creation of the world/Hear that laughing? That'd be Prince as he strolls to Bank of America. Not some "end of the year" party where the audience looks bored to death because you took 2 hours between sets to appear out of your fucking powder room primping like a bitch to perform a GCS medley." eek My stomach is hurting a from laughing soo hard. :rofl:
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Reply #55 posted 09/29/09 10:22am

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ernestsewell said:

mzkqueen03 said:

...ohhh it IS A BIG-DEAL!!!....i will ALSO BE WEARING L-O-V-E-SYMBOL over my heart...because 1stEDITION IS the ONLY 1 THAT WILL HAVE PRINCE'S-CREST!!!!!...
..mzsexybaby'BIG-DADDI WILL KNOW WHO IS HIS-OLE'LADY!' sexy



Sometimes I forget to realize what kind of people are on the Org. :shudders:


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I think you know this pic is offensive and you need to take your bullshit atttitude somewhere else.
If you think the project is greedy fine someone else may want to purchase it. Why are you so pissed that P is making a living?
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Reply #56 posted 09/29/09 10:54am

ernestsewell

laurarichardson said:

I think you know this pic is offensive and you need to take your bullshit atttitude somewhere else.
If you think the project is greedy fine someone else may want to purchase it. Why are you so pissed that P is making a living?


Oh shut up, you're talking out of your booty! again. You NEVER address what is said. You go off on some random flame to me, or whoever just to hijack a thread. Take YOUR attitude elsewhere. I'm bored with you.
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Reply #57 posted 09/29/09 12:14pm

unkleg

ernestsewell said:

purpledoveuk said:

Here's an idea Prince...how about selli g something to the fans who aren't stupid or millionaires


highfive Exactly. He promised big things for $77, and look how those people got fucked dry. Imagine how he'd make you bleed out of the ass for $2500. It's a fancy case, an iPod, and 40 minutes of video (from a concert tour that had 21 dates and where the shows averages 2 hours??? REALLY PRINCE??? REALLY??) No 40 minute video is worth that, unless it's the unedited video of the creation of the world.

I love Prince, but he will never learn how to really give his fans the things they desire. And it's not about emptying the vault or something. Just release a DVD of a tour. Not some hand held bullshit edited by Sam Jennings or whoever, that isn't even the whole show. (Aladdin) No....release a whole concert, with some backstage footage, some interview. Not some "end of the year" party where the audience looks bored to death because you took 2 hours between sets to appear out of your fucking powder room primping like a bitch to perform a GCS medley. (Rave Un2) No. Release a whole concert, front to back. Make a deal with Coachella, or Montreaux Jazz, or wherever you play and just RELEASE IT BOY! I'd pay $20 a pop every time for a DVD, or CD/DVD set of a REAL show. Go watch everything on the Justin Timberlake FutureSexLoveShow DVD set. Interviews w/ Justin and the band, the show, behind the scenes (or in this case, under the stage) footage as the show happened, then the cameras followed him from the stage all the way to the dressing room, and still had more footage after that. The 2nd DVD was full of stuff too. Just an example of what an artist CAN do for their fans, when they realize how much their fans have helped make their career, and pad their wallets.

Prince is so fucking scared of being bootlegged (get past it, you can't stop it), that he has locked down EVERYTHING. And when he doesn't.....he charges everyday Americans who are barely keeping a roof over their heads and a car key in their pocket $2,500 for some bullshit iPod. What happens when you sync the iPod? Is the video gone? Because there goes your $2500, right through your USB cord. Hear that laughing? That'd be Prince as he strolls to Bank of America.

Come on boy.....getcha thing together.


Man, I totally agree with you. These are valid points, fairly made - can't see why some people here can't see that.

I'm not really sure who, except the deluded or the completest, would really pay so much for so little.

It isn't hard to put out a DVD which the majority of fans could afford, and would really appreciate. It's hard not to see this as an act of greed on the part of the vendor and the purchaser.

PS: Totally loved "No 40 minute video is worth that, unless it's the unedited video of the creation of the world." falloff
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Reply #58 posted 09/29/09 2:07pm

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ernestsewell said:

laurarichardson said:

I think you know this pic is offensive and you need to take your bullshit atttitude somewhere else.
If you think the project is greedy fine someone else may want to purchase it. Why are you so pissed that P is making a living?


Oh shut up, you're talking out of your booty! again. You NEVER address what is said. You go off on some random flame to me, or whoever just to hijack a thread. Take YOUR attitude elsewhere. I'm bored with you.

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Fuck you man.
You don't even realize that putting that pic up was offensive and your rant against the Opus is simple.

The young and useless truly applies to you. eek
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Reply #59 posted 09/29/09 2:12pm

Graycap23

I'll settle 4 a refund on my lotusflow3r.com rip off.
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