This I don't understand: howcome a video of "I Love U But I Don't Trust U Anymore" (official) of Montreux 09' can be viewed in the net but not in Lotusflower? I know thta the whole concert has been recorded , will it be out in DVD as the series of Montreux (Santana, Quincy Jones...)?

Ask them.

asma said:

I heard that there's a performance with James Brown, Michael Jackson, and Prince.

he sure has been playing this a lot

angelface22 said:

he sure has...maybe he relates it again

nyse said:

maybe so. he seemed pretty emotional in the montreux clip. (which i hunted down since i missed it on here previously)

It's certainly the sentiment that a lot of fans are feeling also... "Prince, we still love your music, but we don't trust your websites anymore"

From what I've read so far on the forum members have received 3 cds, a video or two, a t-shirt, and some received some kind of cd in the post. As most probably joined at the site launch I presume the annual subscription is until March (?)That means there are still 6 months in which to receive something/things.

What I don't understand is that there is no understanding of the lotus flower symbolism at all. In the Far east, particularly India and Buddhist countries, the lotus flower grows from the bottom of the pond, through the mud slowly towards the light. It is a growing process.

I don't know from what countries members are from but isn't all this complaining a very "western trait" and a very significant "sign of the times?" We click a button and we get whatever we want, whenever we want but particularly, we want it NOW and even better we want it YESTERDAY and if not we'll kick a tantrum!.

But how about understanding a little lotus philosophy and understand that good things come to those who wait. Patience and faith are valuable virtues. Hence, lotus meditations will train you to develop these skills which are somewhat lacking in the modern western world.

Be thankful it's a little underground. You don't know what's coming and when. YOU don't decide. It is given, when you are patient.

Just my thoughts on the whole issue.

Shelby's blog is back up (& so is the show footage) shes wearing Prince sweater from the Leno show...

Must have been the chosen one afterall

Bohemian67 said:

JOYJOY said:

Yes. It should also be noted that this time the video is from the second Montreux show of the same song (the first one she posted the other day was from the first show).

toejam said:

Thanks for drawing that to my attention. Your podcast is even though I don't agree with everything.
[Edited 9/25/09 4:00am]

xlr8r said:

Yeah, there was one on youtube from a James Brown concert when Michael J and Prince were both in the audience, and James called for Michael to come up on stage, he did, he sang a little and danced briefly, then he wispered to James to ask Prince on stage, which he did,Michael left the stage before Prince came up riding on the back of his "Chic" his huge bodyguard> Prince gets on stage appearing to be "zoned out," take that however you want it, Prince then proceeded to take the guitar from one of James' bandmembers and began to improv on the guitar for a minute, then he takes off his shirt and begins to do his mic dance and lets out a few Prince trademark screams, then stumbles off the stage pulling down a light pole along with him as he goes. This was around '84 or 85' I believe. I'm sure Prince cringes a little everytime he see's this one. I don't think this video is posted anymore, but I'm sure someone has it somewhere. It's cool though to see the two top artists of our lifetime in the raw before they perfected their craft, I always wonder what Prince was "under the influence of" that night. Did he ever have a DOC? I know that he was never known for dabbling in drugs, but he was really young at the time, and who knows maybe he experimented. Can anyone help me with this question? Thanx, I'm a new member of the Org community, Im glad to be a part!

twizzon1 said:

Welcome! I think this was intended as a joke, however

Bohemian67 said:

We did not received 3 CDs, we received 3 files we could download. Given Prince's past history with downloaded CDs and DRMs, I sure hope everyone DID burn those files to CDs, but if so, it was with no help from Prince.

We received no videos. There are videos we can WATCH, and allegedly the fine print of the Members Agreement says it's OK to download them, but Prince has made no program available for members to save or download videos.

No one got a CD in the mail, that was a hoax.

You aren't a member of Lotu$flower, so with all due respect, you have no standing to tell members they should be satisfied or patient.
[Edited 9/25/09 8:19am]

twizzon1 said:

Really?? I've never seen this video, though I've heard through purple folklore that it exists. Has anyone ever talked about that video here before?

Cool!
[Edited 9/25/09 8:18am]

RodeoSchro said:

Thank you for your correction on the cd. Please note however, that I am not "telling" anyone anything. They are mere suggestions & my thoughts, because many come to read the forum to enjoy and not listen to all the complaints.
As a member or not, I still have the right to expres an opinion.

Bohemian67 said:

alexnvrmnd777 said:

I don't think so. Never.

RodeoSchro said:

Im a member of lotusflow3r and I think the fee was value, i got three cds which i can download again and again if i like which is fab as i didnt burn mine and my hard drive carked it a few weeks ago, so here i am downloading and watching prince play at montreux which i had so desperately wanted to go to but couldnt afford it, i got a founding members tee shirt which im happy with, ive got a chance of earlybird ticket offers which Im more than delighted about! PARIS anyone? I can be patient for more stuff, Im not greedy i think 3 new albums in one year is pretty good stuff and before you say brias doesnt count, try re-listening to it its very good and anyways two new albums in one year is also pretty danged good!,

what do you want an interactive game? Halo-esque site where you can talk to people while you try different levels of gaming, or maybe you just want a forum and chat room? well those last two are on here so why would he want to repeat that?

anyhow How do you know if Bohemian67 isnt a member?

syble said:

I feel a lot got some value out of their money but for folks who were not in anyways near the vicinity of his recent one off concerts this year, I don't think they have gotten much value out of the website. I mean some new videos are nice to look at and a spandex t-shirt to be worn as an adult...I don't know if thats what many fans of the music, recorded and live, were 'only' expecting or wanted.

syble said:

I've heard one track of Bria and you're right it does sound indeed very smooth and sexy.

xlr8r said:

I guess if you're american thn $77 does sound alot but for me, i was lucky in that it only cost me £40 ish cant remember exactly so it was good value despite not being able to attend any of the shows.

what else would you have liked to see on the site then? do you want a shop or for it to be more like npgmc?

syble said:

Yes, $77 is a lot to pay for a $12 album set, retread videos in the wrong aspect ratio, and a low-quality T-shirt. The standard fam lie is to proclaim that Prince delivered on "everything he promised" with Lotusflow3r, but the truth is that he went on a media blitz promoting the website and albums. He and the site's developer, Scott Addison Clay, talked often and extensively about the "new universe" they were creating on the website, and hints were dropped about such things as live chats where fans could actually stream a concert from Prince's home and make requests, and 10 albums from the past that were going to be uploaded exclusively for members.

Prince built up hype for the site that he completely failed to deliver on. Thinking anything else is completely wrong.

Efan said:

Do you have to go on every thread and whine about the $77 membership fee for lotusflow3r?
Wasn't it you who got 2 free tickets to the NY show in
Oct 2008 while everyone else had to shell out $2000? Where is your gratitude?

pplrain said:

I didn't bring up Lotusflow3r on this thread. Others did and I commented.

I am very grateful to Prince.org, Anxiety, and Prince for getting to go to the Hotel Gansevoort show and have said so many times. I am also grateful to many, many Prince experiences, both in terms of songs and albums he has done and concerts I have seen. What does that have to do with the fact that someone whose work I admire and want to be a part of seems to now actively want to divide and alienate his longtime fans?

Have you noticed there are fewer people here than there used to be? Some very good, wonderful people are now gone because this site has practically gone to war over this issue.

angelface22 said:

I don't like to speculate about a person's private life, but I just watched the video and the performance does come across as "Personal". Of course i can only assume it's the female that's he chooses to be near and the one we've seen him with this past year. Who knows!

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[Edited 11/20/09 8:52am]

gravity said:

I said it before that he looked sad when performing this song

nurseV said:

Well of course he looks sad. It's a sad song. Im sure the perspective he wrote it in and why he wrote it is a sad situation. Hell, I get sad just listening to it.